Wherez VC going?

[Ataraxia]

wheres he gonna go.....lotsa teams in the Hunt (at least their trying)

Blazers, Knicks, Bulls, 76ers, Hornets, Grizzlies and Heat.

Grizz should go for him, they need a STAR player and they can send Mike and Bonzi away...reduces the depth but it'll ease Hubie's rotation headache.

Bulls would be neat, but salary issues....Curry and big salary( Davis?)

Knicks no chance really unless Houston was healthy.

Hornets shouldt give up Jamaal, cause PJ is grabbing crappy boards and Birdman isnt a fully equipped starter yet.

76ers,hell no.

Heat, hmmm I dont think just EJ would do, so it'll mean giving up somebody else or 2 even.

Blazers, doesnt make sense...Reef at SF again???

[SkipToMy_Lou]

Grizzlies - because they have the players to trade for him.
Blazers - dont know why, but everyone is talking bout him going there. Dont know why the Raptors will do it though, Abur wants to play at PF and dont think Bosh will go back to playing centre.

[Ataraxia]

Grizzlies - because they have the players to trade for him.
Blazers - dont know why, but everyone is talking bout him going there. Dont know why the Raptors will do it though, Abur wants to play at PF and dont think Bosh will go back to playing centre.

yeh I gotta feeling the Grizz would pursue him...but if I were the Grizz id pursue Ray, but prob would be meeting his huge contract demand. But Ray would be more solid for them.....

yeh Bosh is a star in the making, hes got alotta talent....if he packs some meat I think he'll be right up there for 2nd best rookie next to James in the 2k3 draft....Wade prolly has it now but Melo is fighting for it too (though his personality reaks).

Grizz - Rapz would be the best trade for me, hopefully it happens soon cause the Vc will go into depression if he gets booed more n more. Maybe he'll get a two year suspensions for bashing up his own fans

[Matt]

i have a proposal....what if Toronto trades with Denver. In principal it would be

Vince Carter for Skita & Nene

Vince, would theoretically fill the gap at the SG spot....Nene, who has huge upside, could play C in the East and Skita also has potential to be a pretty good SF

Nuggets already have KMart, but have a hole at the SG spot. Maybe this deal looks like a rip off, but Vince's trade value isn't looking good atm, and i'm doubting that he can be swapped for another All-Star. Add some other players here and there, draft picks etc to make it match and voila!

[Doug]

i just think the raps shouldnt trade vince and rose until a team that will give them a good offer comes up cause with a shitty trade the raps will be down the shithole agian and losing more then ever.

[matmat8]

Carter isn't bringing anything to the raptors (fans ok ok...) now. He wants to leave, let him go. It makes no sense keeping a player playing like shit and that doesn't want to play for your team anymore.

[Doug]

i know but what im saying is the raps should keep him and rose until a good fair deal is offered cause if the accept a shitty ass deal that isnt that fair the raps will be down the shithole agian and losing more games.

[Colin]

i have a proposal....what if Toronto trades with Denver. In principal it would be

Vince Carter for Skita & Nene

Vince, would theoretically fill the gap at the SG spot....Nene, who has huge upside, could play C in the East and Skita also has potential to be a pretty good SF

Nuggets already have KMart, but have a hole at the SG spot. Maybe this deal looks like a rip off, but Vince's trade value isn't looking good atm, and i'm doubting that he can be swapped for another All-Star. Add some other players here and there, draft picks etc to make it match and voila!

No way that would match salary wise. Nene and Skita are still on rookie contracts. And I don't think Kiki screwed up any contracts so there aren't big contracts to give away.

[Donatello]

i have a proposal....what if Toronto trades with Denver. In principal it would be

Vince Carter for Skita & Nene

Vince, would theoretically fill the gap at the SG spot....Nene, who has huge upside, could play C in the East and Skita also has potential to be a pretty good SF

Nuggets already have KMart, but have a hole at the SG spot. Maybe this deal looks like a rip off, but Vince's trade value isn't looking good atm, and i'm doubting that he can be swapped for another All-Star. Add some other players here and there, draft picks etc to make it match and voila!

wow. open the door, that trade stinks

[fgrep15]

i have a proposal....what if Toronto trades with Denver. In principal it would be

Vince Carter for Skita & Nene

Vince, would theoretically fill the gap at the SG spot....Nene, who has huge upside, could play C in the East and Skita also has potential to be a pretty good SF

Nuggets already have KMart, but have a hole at the SG spot. Maybe this deal looks like a rip off, but Vince's trade value isn't looking good atm, and i'm doubting that he can be swapped for another All-Star. Add some other players here and there, draft picks etc to make it match and voila!

Too many scorers on the team, Carmelo won't work with Vince, and we can't forget about Kmart, also contracts obviously don't work.


Vince to Memphis or New Orleans are the most probable places, it's said that the Portland rumours are gone as Babcock was asking for too much from them, he added some more stuff, and Portland didn't want to anymore.

Vince and Jalen for Lorenzen Wright, Bonzi Wells and Dahntay Jones [I'm not sure about salaries, might work with Mike Miller instead of DJ].

Vince and Donyell for Jamaal Magloire and some other guys from NOH. David West, someone, someone else

[J@3]

Vince and Jalen for Lorenzen Wright, Bonzi Wells and Dahntay Jones [I'm not sure about salaries, might work with Mike Miller instead of DJ].

If that was Vince/Rose for Wright/Wells/Miller that'd be an absolute steal for Toronto.

[Ataraxia]

yeh no VC in Denver, id prefer Denver go after Ray over VC, Carter's just too volatile and well yeh it'll be the battle of ball hogs in Denver if VC gets there.....

but I think Memphis should be in lead contention right now...specially if it gets Toronto Bonzi, Mike n Lorenzen for VC n J-Rose

[fgrep15]

Vince and Jalen for Lorenzen Wright, Bonzi Wells and Dahntay Jones [I'm not sure about salaries, might work with Mike Miller instead of DJ].

If that was Vince/Rose for Wright/Wells/Miller that'd be an absolute steal for Toronto.

Memphis offered Wells and Miller for Vince already, but no one likes Rose

[Ataraxia]

Vince and Jalen for Lorenzen Wright, Bonzi Wells and Dahntay Jones [I'm not sure about salaries, might work with Mike Miller instead of DJ].

If that was Vince/Rose for Wright/Wells/Miller that'd be an absolute steal for Toronto.

Memphis offered Wells and Miller for Vince already, but no one likes Rose

Rose is sexy j/k lol..but I dunno they could put in Marshall n maybe some shitty other Raptor...

I think its the best deal for the Rapz, cause the Blazers deal will just make a mess of things....Reef at SF is not a good idea n Marshall again is a benchie...

unless Babcock gets his dick sucked from Thomas(it could happen) I dont think VC's gonna be a Knickerbocker.....I dunno who knows maybe the Warriors or Bulls might suddenly make a big push, Warriors put Dunleavy on the block today from what I heard....

Warriors make me puke though, Foyle 5 year deal...crap he doesnt even start or nor does he gets even 10 mins a game...what a waste of dollars at least use it for Victims of Iraq

[Matthew]

Why is it all of a sudden urgent for toronto to trade vince? Isnt this the same team who said in the offseason they didnt want to trade him under any circumstances, and now they are prepared to give him up for Abdur Rahim or Mike Miller/Bonzi Wells? They are shocking deals.

[fgrep15]

Why is it all of a sudden urgent for toronto to trade vince? Isnt this the same team who said in the offseason they didnt want to trade him under any circumstances, and now they are prepared to give him up for Abdur Rahim or Mike Miller/Bonzi Wells? They are shocking deals.

I think you're the only one that heard that, Babcock said he didn't want to trade him if it didn't help the team, if he didn't get a player of Vince's caliber back, and if he didn't get fair value.

Anyways, Blazers trade died, Raptors wanted a lot more than just Rahim obviously, and the Blazers pulled out.

If the Raps trade with the Warriors I'd want Pietrus [drool], that would be great.

[Matthew]

While the source told Aldridge that Carter presented four to six different trade proposals to the Raptors, the team has not granted Carter permission to seek a trade and Babcock said that the team has no plans to trade Carter.

"He's a marquee player, and he puts fans in the seats," Babcock said. "The only way we trade him is if we get something similar back."

I stand corrected, it was the article that said Babcock had no intentions to trade him... not Babcock himself saying it. However, I don't think Shareef or Mike Miller will draw fans like VC.

[jerk_factory]

Carter's not drawing fans anymore. Attendance is down and he gets booed everytime he touches the ball.

[Username123]

The fans are jus wierd cause they boo him when he misses a shot or even get the ball. They cheer for him when he gets a point or when he goes up for a layup. They are jus booing him for now, they will start to like him again

Personally i dont want Carter to get traded cause he is the only reason ppl come to see Raptor games...noone would pay money to see Bonzi or Miller, they are jus average players.

PS. Did anyone hear about Carter saying he is not gonna DUNK from now on!!!!......before the Wizards game he said he was jus joking.....he had 2 sick dunks that game (crazy alleyoop from Murry and sick dunk with 2 wizards in front of him!!)