Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:52 pm
Dennis Rodman was suspended 11 games for kicking a courtside cameraman in the groin and six games for head-butting a referee.
Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:56 pm
Last season he elbows RIP Hamilton on purpose in the nose (which had been broken 3 times already)
Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:58 pm
The events at last night’s game were shocking, repulsive and inexcusable -- a humiliation for everyone associated with the NBA. This demonstrates why our players must not enter the stands whatever the provocation or poisonous behavior of people attending the games. Our investigation is ongoing and I expect it to be completed by tomorrow evening.
Indiana players Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson and Jermaine O’Neal are suspended indefinitely, the length to be determined upon completion of the investigation.
Detroit player Ben Wallace is suspended indefinitely, the length to be determined upon completion of the investigation.
Review of rules and procedures relating to altercations and security have been undertaken so that fans can continue to attend our games unthreatened by events such as the ones that occurred last night.
Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:58 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:13 pm
But wat is reasonable foreseeability?
If those 'fans' can prove that the Arena security should have forseen that a player jumping into attack fans could have occured and they didnt take any measures to prevent this.... they are still liable.
The Pistons released a statement saying they are going to 'playoff security' next game and will do so for the rest of however long the franchiuse exists... expect the league to follow suit.
Ont he espn.com article i rerad, the man who does STAPLES center security said that they train in case these incidents happen... doesnt that mean they have already forseen the possiblity of this happening?
Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:24 pm
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Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:17 pm
Matt wrote:I'm sure the fans have a case if they pursue suing. They can sue the league for not protecting them enough or just hit the Pacers with assault and battery.
Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:20 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:29 pm
Andrew wrote:Matt wrote:I'm sure the fans have a case if they pursue suing. They can sue the league for not protecting them enough or just hit the Pacers with assault and battery.
What about the fans that came onto the court to confront the Pacers players? They aren't permitted to leave the stands and come onto the court unless invited (eg if they win a chance to take a shot from midcourt for prize money).
Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:41 pm
Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:10 pm
Sit wrote:The fans do have a case.
In reference to Andrew, When the ppl bought their tickets they enter into a legally bound contract and I believe that stepping onto the court was probably a term of the 'contract'. If so, depending on whther this was a condition or warranty, the contract was breached. Therefore once it was breached, the Pistons' seecurity wouldnt be liable for their actions. Of course i dont know whether this term does exist but its something that the Pistons could look into as a defence....
With Artest hitting the fan, I dont think the Pistons would be liable for his safety since he went after Artest but depending on wat really happened, I'm not sure. Did the fan actually attack Artest?
Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:20 pm
EGarrett wrote:My question is: After Artest beat up the guy in the stands...why was he just walking around, completely unrestrained and free to get into a brawl with two more guys seconds later?
Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:30 pm
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Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:37 pm
have great lawyers who can get them out of anything, even rape.
Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:00 pm
Sit wrote:The fans do have a case.
In reference to Andrew, When the ppl bought their tickets they enter into a legally bound contract and I believe that stepping onto the court was probably a term of the 'contract'. If so, depending on whther this was a condition or warranty, the contract was breached. Therefore once it was breached, the Pistons' seecurity wouldnt be liable for their actions. Of course i dont know whether this term does exist but its something that the Pistons could look into as a defence....
With Artest hitting the fan, I dont think the Pistons would be liable for his safety since he went after Artest but depending on wat really happened, I'm not sure. Did the fan actually attack Artest?
According to Ben Maller and Chris Landry of Fox Sports Radio the outcome from Friday's riot in Detroit could be devistating for the already injury depleated Indiana Pacers, who could lose their top three players for a combined 70 games through suspension.
The exact length of the suspensions could be announced by the league as early as Sunday night, but Maller and Landry have learned from Pistons play-by-play man Fred McLeod that the NBA plans to suspend Ron Artest for 30 games. Jermaine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson are both expected to receive 20 game suspensions, while Pistons forward Ben Wallace will only miss five.
Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:59 pm
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Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:20 pm
There's no way humanly possible David Stern would retaliate like that. Not a chance in hell.