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Re: NLSC Podcast #311: Sliding Into Better Gameplay

Postby sticky-fingers on Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:55 pm

thanx for the link, I use Podcast Addict on Android, i dont know the source but it's also last 30 episodes.
I guess i have to download mp3 from the website. Retro podcasts :mrgreen:
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Re: NLSC Podcast #311: Sliding Into Better Gameplay

Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:13 am

Definitely old school! I'll definitely look into it, must be a setting somewhere.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #311: Sliding Into Better Gameplay

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:34 pm

Found the feed setting for number of episodes to display, and updated it accordingly. It might take a little bit for the feeds to update with the back catalog, but hopefully that won't take too long.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #311: Sliding Into Better Gameplay

Postby sticky-fingers on Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:54 pm

Great
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I can choose around 120 to the last épisode now on my app.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #311: Sliding Into Better Gameplay

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:06 pm

Excellent! Looks like the other feeds have updated as well. That was pleasingly quick.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #312: The Silence is Deafening

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:03 pm

NLSC Podcast #312: The Silence is Deafening

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As March Modness 2020 tips off, we talk about some of the great work our modding community is doing right now, and some of our own plans for the event. Speaking of celebrations, NBA 2K20 gave away a MyTEAM pack to celebrate some record breaking numbers for installations and games played. We note that despite some missteps and bad PR here and there, 2K is fantastic when it comes to celebrating itself and promoting the brand. This leads us to draw comparisons to what EA Sports is doing with NBA Live, and how they could be doing so much more as far as community engagement. It hasn't escaped our notice that there have been a lot of missed opportunities, not just with NBA Live but also NBA Jam. We also reflect on the games that had the biggest influence and impact on us growing up, and how it's shaped our preferences, opinions, and expectations. Finally, we touch on the importance of standing together as a community.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #313: NBA 2K20, Sixth Months Later

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:39 pm

NLSC Podcast #313: NBA 2K20, Sixth Months Later

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Following on from last week's episode, we have a new rumour about NBA Live to discuss. We weigh in on the potential impact of NBA Live skipping another year, and possibly missing the launch of a new console generation. The prospect of using NBA Live 19 for extended testing ahead of a new release also comes up; could it benefit the series moving forward? Elsewhere, a promotion in NBA 2K19 is clearly trying to boost NBA 2K20's already record-setting sales and engagement numbers. This leads into our impressions of NBA 2K20, six months after its release and following several patches. We talk about our enjoyment of the game, the impact of legacy issues, and where it ranks for us on the current generation. A couple of topics for future shows are also teased.

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What are your thoughts on NBA 2K20 six months after its release? Do you think EA is making a mistake, and should they utilise NBA Live 19 for testing? Sound off with your thoughts right here in the Forum! Additionally, feel free to hit us up with any feedback on the episode, as well as suggestions for topics that you'd like to hear us discuss in future episodes.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #314: Our Unfinished Business & Nostalgic Phases

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:47 pm

NLSC Podcast #314: Our Unfinished Business & Nostalgic Phases

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In the wake of the NBA shutdown, the official NBA 2K Twitter has been doing a great job of engaging with fans. Unfortunately, the same can't be said of 2K's handling of MyTEAM bans due to Auction House sniping. We discuss the lack of communication and clear guidelines, as well as the staggering amount of money some gamers pump into the mode. Turning our attention to older games, we reflect on unfinished business in titles from yesteryear. In particular, we discuss the difficulty of going back and spending a lot of time with old favourites, the idea of basketball games (and sports games in general) having a different concept of completion, and games we wish that we'd played more. This leads into a discussion of nostalgic phases: the times where we've briefly become obsessed with revisiting certain hoops games that we love.

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What are your thoughts on the NBA 2K20 MyTEAM controversy? Do you go through retro gaming phases with classic hoops titles? Sound off with your thoughts right here in the Forum! Additionally, feel free to hit us up with any feedback on the episode, as well as suggestions for topics that you'd like to hear us discuss in future episodes.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #315: Old Games & Old Habits

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:29 pm

NLSC Podcast #315: Old Games & Old Habits

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With the NBA shut down for the foreseeable future, it's a great time to not only catch up on gaming, but also classic NBA games. We discuss some of the ways the NBA could improve League Pass and the official YouTube channel, including some comparisons to the WWE Network. Speaking of history, the 25th Anniversary of Michael Jordan's first comeback is making us feel old, but it's a good excuse to play the Double Nickel game in NBA 2K11's Jordan Challenge. On that note, our main discussion topic this week is our basketball gaming preferences past and present, with reflections on the titles from the 90s and early 2000s that influenced our tastes and habits. From our preferred quarter and season length to how often we sim and how much realism we like, those old games established how we approach the virtual hardwood. We also touch on some of the quirks of those old games.

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What are your basketball gaming preferences? Which games shaped them, and have they changed over the years? Sound off with your thoughts right here in the Forum! Additionally, feel free to hit us up with any feedback on the episode, as well as suggestions for topics that you'd like to hear us discuss in future episodes.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #316: Interview with Darren Schueller

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:14 pm

NLSC Podcast #316: Interview with Darren Schueller

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Our 25th Anniversary of NBA Live celebrations continue with another developer interview! Former NBA Live programmer Darren Schueller joins the show to chat about his time working on the game from NBA Live 97-2001. As the man behind implementing DBF files in the PC version of NBA Live, Darren explains how that development came about, and the details may surprise you! We also talk about his work on the user interface throughout the years, as well as the hidden developer teams and other Easter eggs. Darren also shares anecdotes about how he got into the industry, pranks and other amusing moments during his tenure at EA Canada (including his Need for Speed cameos), and some of his favourite games.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #317: The Perks of PC & The Merriness of Modding

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:47 pm

NLSC Podcast #317: The Perks of PC & The Merriness of Modding

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March Modness may be over, but we're still in the mood to mod! In addition to discussing projects that we're currently working on, we talk about how important the modding scene has been to the PC version. Specifically, we note that it's drawn gamers from consoles to PC, and made them aware of the perks of PC basketball gaming. We also reflect on satisfying modding discoveries, and how mods stand out in other original content. As the preliminary specs for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox Series X have been revealed, we also take the opportunity to look ahead to the next generation. The specs sound impressive - and very much like a gaming PC - but will it matter if design philosophies don't change?

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Re: NLSC Podcast #317: The Perks of PC & The Merriness of Modding

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:03 am

Episode #318 goes live in about 22 hours, featuring an interview with Andrew Jinks, programmer on NBA Live 95-98.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #318: Interview with Andrew Jinks

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:25 pm

NLSC Podcast #318: Interview with Andrew Jinks

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As our celebrations of the 25th Anniversary of NBA Live continue, we welcome Andrew Jinks to the NLSC Podcast! Andrew was a programmer on the series from NBA Live 95 through to NBA Live 98, and he shares his insights into how the early NBA Live games were developed. His stories cover his experiences working on the front end, schedule generation, and other aspects of the games. He also talks about the cancelled 3DO version of NBA Live 96, provides more backstory on the legend of "Jox Steele", and shares some other tales from behind the scenes. Our trip down memory lane also leads us to reminisce about some other classic games from back in the day, including a few LucasArts favourites.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #318: Interview with Andrew Jinks

Postby Dee4Three on Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:20 am

Love all of these interviews with members of past development teams!!!
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Re: NLSC Podcast #319: It's All About The Details

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:46 pm

NLSC Podcast #319: It's All About The Details

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A Locker Code celebrating Mamba Day has provided everyone with a free, guaranteed Kobe Bryant card in MyTEAM. Unfortunately, issues with the card's ratings underscore an ongoing problem with the mode. We discuss the importance of accuracy in details such as player ratings, Badges, and animations, and the need for variety and balance in cards. With Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, and Kevin Garnett going into the Hall of Fame this year, we also reflect on some other players who are worthy of induction. We also touch on the new ESRB ratings for loot boxes, and whether we think the change will make much of a difference. Discussing our recent retro game pick-ups and what we've been playing also leads us to talk about the appeal of college games, the quality of NBA 2K15, and a very controversial opinion about NBA Live 07.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #320: A Post-Mortem of NBA 2K18

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:10 pm

NLSC Podcast #320: A Post-Mortem of NBA 2K18

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A welcome hotfix has arrived via Patch 1.12 for NBA 2K20, which resolves the free throw music bug introduced by the previous title update. Unfortunately, we're not as pleased to see the new Out of Position packs in MyTEAM. After catching up on the news, we dive right into the topic we introduced at the end of Episode #319: a post-mortem look back at NBA 2K18. We reflect on the initial reactions to the game, the backlash to criticism, and the eventual change in perspective. In addition to discussing issues with gameplay mechanics and microtransactions alike, we note how it was a turning point as far as gamers losing fondness for and trust in NBA 2K, and being more willing to criticise it. We also touch on developer blogs, the NBA 2K League, and compare and contrast the situation with NBA Live's downfall over the past 15 years.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #320: A Post-Mortem of NBA 2K18

Postby kobedurant on Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:56 pm

Oh wow, I never realized you guys uploaded the podcast to spotify too. May have to go on a bit of a binge sometime soon (Y) :wink:
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Re: NLSC Podcast #320: A Post-Mortem of NBA 2K18

Postby Andrew on Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:47 pm

We do indeed! I've also been able to increase the back catalogue on those platforms, so definitely feel free to binge. I'd still recommend the Tim Kitzrow interview. ;)
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Re: NLSC Podcast #320: A Post-Mortem of NBA 2K18

Postby sticky-fingers on Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:24 pm

Andrew wrote:What are your thoughts on NBA 2K18?

My thoughts about 2K18 are that the game experience isnt so far than 2K20. the CPU defensive withdrawal is even better on 2K18 than on 2K20.
I appreciate that Dee said something like he approached 2K20 with a different state of mind, because by the time of 2K18 release, the way he critized the game wasnt objective IMO, and thats why me and other guys critized him, perhaps too hardly too.
Of course, the issues you mentionned existed, but previous games (and next too) have some issues. 2K17 pickn roll is the same kind of exploit if you play like me against the CPU.
Probably because Dee plays mostly vs his brothers, the 2K18 exploit was for him a real game breaker.
But bumping the thread and complaining over and over again with no more argument, then asking for closing the thread, wasnt the best move i guess.
Overall, i still dont understand why Dee prefer 2K20 to 2K19 ?! For what he wants, 2K19 should be the best game for him.

I already mentionned here few times, at least against CPU Duce's sliders are a must have and a real game changer about blow-by exploit.
As a player who play mostly against the CPU, with those sliders, the game is really challenging you. And it seems that none of you have tried this set.

Big heads, yeah i forgot about that. And about Bird replaced by Angela Merkel...
BTW there's still in 2K20 some retro players converted by 2K with those big heads. First examples, I think Perdue and Buechler.

You forgot to mention a big step in modding in 2K18.
2K18 was a dark game at its release, and Bongo88 did a serious job on this point. That's why 2K19 lighting mods were even better. I think that 2K turned on the lights on 2K20 after that.

No mention to UAR mod too, the team added updates for 2018-19 and 19-20 seasons.

Andrew wrote:What are your thoughts on NBA 2K18? Do you also see it as a turning point for the NBA 2K series?

Not really. I can understand your point about VC/neighboorhood. But honestly, as a 100% offline player, i never was impacted.

For me the turning point started in 2K16 when 2K started to add hashtag watermark in the games. Then last year, replacing 2K TV content by ads for TV shows etc...
So now, i'm a 100% offline player in 2K and 99.9% offiline in Steam too...
BTW if you're like me an offline player, turning Steam offline delivers a better experience, the game seems smoother.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #320: A Post-Mortem of NBA 2K18

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:40 am

Thanks for listening!

I will respectfully disagree with your statement that I didn't approach 2K18 objectively when it was first released. I called it out for its issues, as I should have, and those were valid criticisms that were later confirmed (but didnt need to be) by Mike Wang, Chris Smoove, and others during the preview season of NBA 2K19. They specifically brought up the blow bys as a major concern, and Smoove went as far as saying something along the lines that they killed the game. Bumping the thread continuing to talk about the issues and put a magnifying glass on them is what we are supposed to do, that's how feedback can continue to be given about an issue, it highlights that not only is it still an issue, but gives different videos/examples/backing that the devs can use. Devs are looking at these threads as you know, they pluck people right out of this community to work for them.

My approach to 2K20 changed because my expectations were now lower, I wasnt expecting to be blown away.

The gameplay experience and videos I showed with 2K18 were not against my brothers, they were against the CPU. Playing the CPU was even worse on 2K18, and the issues were magnified during that experience. Because atleast with human vs human, you can attempt (most of the time unsuccessfully) to cut someone off on a drive, or bring someone over on help defense, but playing against the CPU on ANY difficulty, you could just run by them and score, and help seldom or never came. I play vs the CPU as well, but my preferred method has always been HUM vs HUM, my playstyles doesnt change the issues I highlighted with 2K18, those are part of the games core.

I acknowledged on the podcast the 2K17 P&R issues, and the brick wall issue, and I have mentioned those on several podcasts actually. But not all issues are created equal, not all have the same impact, and the foot planting and other solid gameplay mechanics of 2K17 make the feel much more enjoyable, and the experience overall solid in comparison to 2K18.

I played some 2K19 last night (91-92 roster, great job Stildo and friends!), and it is debatable if 2K20 is better than 2K19. For me, I am on the fence with both of those games. Both need heavy slider tweaking to make the game feel right, with 2K19 probably needing even more slider tweaks to loosen up the feel of the game. I actually made some good sliders for 2K19 that are impacting my experience with the game. And I may upload a gameplay video shortly.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #321: A New Look for Old Games

Postby Andrew on Sun May 03, 2020 10:56 pm

NLSC Podcast #321: A New Look for Old Games

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The Last Dance has inspired an increase in gamers playing with classic Bulls teams in NBA 2K20. This leads us to reflect on how important it is to have historical content in games, and how our gaming habits are affected by what's going on in the world of basketball. We also touch on a rumour about NBA Live that's making the rounds, mostly due to wishful thinking and a desire to have another viable sim game. In our main discussion this week, we go back and reimagine covers for games beginning with Lakers vs. Celtics, including hypothetical Legend Edition covers. We also talk about the pain of starting over every year in MyCAREER and MyTEAM, and the likelihood of seeing certain Legends in NBA 2K.

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Who would you choose if you had to reimagine covers for old games? Are you weary of the annual grind in modern titles? Sound off with your thoughts right here in the Forum! Additionally, feel free to hit us up with any feedback on the episode, as well as suggestions for topics that you'd like to hear us discuss in future episodes.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #322: Maybe Next Year, Huh?

Postby Andrew on Sun May 10, 2020 9:36 pm

NLSC Podcast #322: Maybe Next Year, Huh?

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In case there was any doubt that last week's rumour concerning NBA Live 21 was false, we have confirmation that there will be no release this year. We discuss what this means for NBA Live's future, and whether the series still has a chance to be relevant. We're also concerned about a focus on the mobile platform, and constant changes in direction and vision. In other news, 2K is reportedly seeking a new community manager, and we're all for it. We're not putting our hands up, but we do outline our expectations. We also talk about in-game editing functions we'd like to see, games that we've changed our minds about, retro season mods we'd be interested in, and some recent additions to our collections.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #322: Maybe Next Year, Huh?

Postby mp3 on Mon May 11, 2020 4:26 am

I still think we get NBA live 21, if iam right in thinking that they only released games upto Q3? Or even if they did release Q4 without Live 21 I think EA waiting for next generation to release on so that could be a Jan 21 release date?

Iam still not giving up on it.

Also I think both of you would be given up too much going to 2k, Andrew especially.

It could spell the end (or the beginning) to this site, I think your freedom of speech would be taken from you,would mean all hopes of getting our guys back to nba live community events could be gone plus I think your hands would be tied in terms of what you could answer on social media, I think you both have a lot of creative material but how much would 2k allow you to do?

I know nba live isn't close to as popular as it once was and doesn't have the depth that people myself included are looking for but if hate to see the door closed on people from the community getting over to Florida and speaking up for the OG's point of view for moving forward.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #322: Maybe Next Year, Huh?

Postby Andrew on Mon May 11, 2020 1:20 pm

I suppose it's possible, but I'm not holding out much hope. I really do think we've seen official confirmation of no release this year, unfortunately.

Yeah, I don't know that I'd want to take the role myself. As you said, I'd have to give up creating content that I really enjoy making, not to mention move to the other side of the world. I don't think it's my calling at the end of the day. :)
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Re: NLSC Podcast #322: Maybe Next Year, Huh?

Postby ThaLiveKing on Tue May 12, 2020 4:07 am

they already made the decision a long time ago on what they plan to do, they could go the route of releasing it the way 20 was rumored to, in like February or March but I can't see it coming out. They might use this time to fully move over to Frostbite.
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