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What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

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QUICK INTRO.
    No Dolan, ever. Ewing a Knick for life. New York a force for seasons to come. That should be enough.

ASSOCIATION SETTINGS
    | :: Season Length82 Games
    | :: Team ChemistryOn
    | :: Player RolesOff
    | :: Progressive FatigueOn
    | :: Trade DeadlineOn
    | :: Trade OverrideOn (will undo any crazy trades the CPU do)
    | :: Allow CPU TradesOn
    | :: Preseason GamesOn
    | :: InjuriesOn
    | :: Fantasy DraftNone
    | :: Playoffs7-7-7-7
    | :: Quarter Length12 Minutes
    | :: Sim Quarter Length12 Minutes

    | :: Lineup ManagementOff
    | :: Simulation StrategyOn
    | :: Prospect ScoutingOn
    | :: Player TradingOff

    | :: Staff ContractsOff
    | :: Player ContractsOff
    | :: Pre-Draft WorkoutsOn
    | :: NBA DraftOff
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What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe | Team History

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    It all began on June 6, 1946, when Madison Square Garden was granted a charter franchise in the newlyformed Basketball Association of America. The legendary Ned Irish, who would eventually be enshrined in the Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield in 1964, was the Knicks’ founding father and one of the infant circuit’s pioneers. The newly-christened Knickerbockers debuted on November 1, edging the Toronto Huskies, 68-66, at famed Maple Leaf Gardens. Former Manhattan College mentor Neil Cohalan was the Knicks’ first head coach, while Ossie Schectman, Stan Stutz, Jake Weber, Ralph Kaplowitz and Leo Gottlieb made up the inaugural starting lineup.

    The Knicks were playoff-bound in each of their first 10 seasons -- nine of those under the leadership of Joe Lapchick -- making three consecutive trips to the NBA Finals in 1951, 1952 and 1953, but they would be denied the summit all three times. Carl Braun was the club’s premier scorer during those early days, averaging 14.1 points over a career that spanned 12 seasons and five All-Star selections. Braun’s teammates included Harry Gallatin, the ferocious rebounder who still holds the club record of 610 consecutive games played; the great Dick McGuire, who set a playmaking standard by leading the club in assists for seven straight seasons (1950-56), popular Ernie Vandeweghe and pioneer pro Nat “Sweetwater” Clifton. But New York would then make the playoffs only once in a 10-year span from the late ‘50s into the ‘60s -- Richie Guerin, Willie Naulls, Ray Felix, Jumpin’ Johnny Green and Ken Sears were major Knick heroes in those days. The head coaching assignments during that era were handled by Vince Boryla, Fuzzy Levane, Braun, Eddie Donovan, Gallatin and McGuire.
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    Following a decade in the doldrums, the Knicks franchise would ultimately reach its zenith in 1969-70 under William “Red” Holzman, the Hall of Fame coach who took over the reins in late 1967, just prior to the team’s move from the venerable Old Garden on 49th Street to the gleaming New Garden above Penn Station. As Holzman assumed the helm, the team’s “Golden Era” -- which would include four 50-plus win seasons, three Eastern Conference Championships and, of course, two NBA titles -- was launched. Riding a club record 18-game winning streak and a 60-22 regular season mark, the franchise earned its first NBA World Championship: with captain Willis Reed scoring the Knicks’ first two baskets and Walt Frazier adding 36 points and 19 assists, New York nailed down its first NBA title with a 113-99 Game 7 win, forever stamping May 8, 1970 as the ultimate red-letter day in team history. Reed, the League’s MVP, will forever be remembered for stepping onto the Garden court in spite of his severely injured leg, to the deafening roar of a capacity crowd.

    Along with Reed’s contributions, the unprecedented success was keyed by fabled teammates such as Frazier, Bill Bradley, Dave DeBusschere and Dick Barnett, along with “Minutemen” Mike Riordan, Cazzie Russell and Dave Stallworth. Smart drafting and shrewd trades -- especially the acquisitions of DeBusschere from Detroit -- laid the foundation for success. Holzman’s club led the NBA in team defense five times over a six-year span from 1968-69 to 1973-74 and captured the citizenry of the world’s greatest basketball city, selling out the New Garden 26 times in 1969-70 after recording just six regular season sellouts in 22 seasons at the Old Garden. Earl “The Pearl” Monroe, a Knicks nemesis during his days with the Baltimore Bullets, joined the squad in 1971-72 and teamed with Frazier to form one of the greatest backcourts in NBA history -- also acquired to shore up the frontline was perennial All-Star Jerry Lucas.

    In 1971-72, despite the season-long absence of Reed due to injury, the Knicks won the Eastern Conference title with Playoff wins over Baltimore and Boston. In 1972-73, Reed returned and a veteran Knick squad gutted its way to its second NBA Championship. They outlasted Boston in a classic Eastern Final series and then beat the Lakers in the Finals, becoming the first team in NBA history to defeat two 60-win teams en route to a title. In tribute to the championship heroes, the retired numbers of Reed, Bradley, Frazier, Barnett, DeBusschere and Monroe hang from the Garden rafters. Reed, Bradley, Frazier, DeBusschere, Monroe and Lucas have all joined Holzman in the Springfield Hall of Fame.
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    New York was a playoff force for nine straight seasons (1966-67 through 1974-75), but then a period of lean times befell the club as the ‘80s dawned, despite headline performances by Bob McAdoo, Spencer Haywood, Ray Williams and Micheal Ray Richardson -- the Knicks made the Playoffs only twice in a seven-year span from 1976 to 1982. Two dynamic and unforgettable personalities played the central roles as the Knicks’ fortunes turned in the early ‘80s: head coach Hubie Brown and scorer extraordinaire Bernard King, as Brown guided the Knicks to a memorable first-round playoff victory over Detroit in 1984. King developed into perhaps the greatest offensive force in club history, leading the NBA in scoring with a 32.9 average in 1984-85, becoming the Knicks’ only scoring champion.
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    On Mother’s Day 1985, the Knicks won the rights to Georgetown superstar Patrick Ewing in the first-ever NBA Draft Lottery -- it would prove to be a major turning point in the club’s history. Ewing has authored 14 years (and counting) in New York and is on his way to become the all-time club leader in virtually every category, and arguably, the greatest player to ever wear the orange and blue -- a headline performer whose No. 33 will certainly be hoisted to the Garden rafters when it is all said and done.

    A crippling knee injury to King in 1985 set off a three-year dry spell in which the Knicks would miss the Playoffs all three years as Garden attendance plummeted, but a decade-plus period in which the Knicks would again reign as one of the game’s elite began in 1987-88: general manager Al Bianchi, head coach Rick Pitino and Rookie of the Year Mark Jackson would lead the franchise to a playoff spot in the season’s final contest. With Charles Oakley and Kiki VanDeWeghe on board the next season, the Knicks won 52 games (including 26 straight at home) and the Atlantic Division title.

    In 1991, club president Dave Checketts and general manager Ernie Grunfeld guided the organization into an unforgettable era by hiring coach Pat Riley and adding names like Xavier McDaniel, Anthony Mason, Charles Smith and Derek Harper. The Riley Era -- 1991-92 through 1994-95 -- resulted in an unprecedented four consecutive 50-plus-win seasons, two Atlantic Division titles and two trips to the Eastern Conference Finals. In 1992-93, the Knicks rewrote the club record book with a franchise-record-tying 60 wins and a club record 37 home victories. Keyed by one of the greatest defensive units in NBA history (91.5 points allowed) and All-Star seasons from Ewing, Oakley and John Starks, the 1993-94 Knicks ended the three-year championship reign of the Chicago Bulls with an emotional playoff triumph, then bested Indiana to earn their first Eastern Conference Championship in 21 years, only to be denied the ultimate prize in a seven-game nailbiter series against Houston. A 55-win season in 1994-95 and a heartbreaking seven-game Playoff loss to Indiana were followed soon after by Riley’s resignation.

    After seven years as an assistant coach, youthful Jeff Van Gundy succeeded Don Nelson as head coach on March 8, 1996. Grunfeld engineered an extensive off-season facelift, putting Larry Johnson, Allan Houston, Chris Childs and Buck Williams in Knicks uniforms. The results were a 57-win season in 1996-97, followed by an emotional first-round Playoff triumph over Miami in 1997-98, a season marred by a wrist fracture suffered by Ewing. Electrifying Latrell Sprewell and youthful Marcus Camby came aboard in 1998-99 to help write one of the most memorable chapters in the club’s annals: following a 27-23 regular season, the Knicks stormed from the East’s eighth seed to win the Eastern Conference title with thrilling Playoff triumphs over arch-rivals Miami and Indiana and a four-game sweep of Atlanta, before the ultimate heartbreak of a five-game Finals loss to San Antonio.

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What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe | Team Roster

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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby [Hyperize] on Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:19 am

Raptors died? The irl championship was good enough? :wink:
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:52 pm

Ewing a Knick for life. As it should've been.
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby kibaxx7 on Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:04 pm

cavs4872 wrote:Raptors died? The irl championship was good enough? :wink:

Oh, it was more than enough. Lost the files anyway :lol:

Andrew wrote:Ewing a Knick for life. As it should've been.

Hopefully I can get him a ring before he says goodbye, if not, I will try to keep him around.

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What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe | Season Preview

Postby kibaxx7 on Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:24 am

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    HEAD COACH: Jeff Van Gundy, 5th season, 140-97 in four years

    1998-99: 27-23 (.540%), 4th in Atlantic Division, lost to San Antonio in NBA Finals

    STARTING FIVE: Charlie Ward, Allan Houston, Latrell Sprewell, Larry Johnson, Patrick Ewing

    ADDITIONS: Andrew Lang (C, free agent, Chicago), John Wallace (SF, free agent, Toronto)

    SUBSTRACTIONS: Herb Williams (C-F, retired)

    Without aging center Patrick Ewing, the Knicks reached the NBA Finals by relying on the offensive arsenal of Latrell Sprewell and Allan Houston and there's no reason to break that 1-2 punch, with Larry Johnson providing a third scoring presence. They are once again expected to receive help from reserves Marcus Camby, who flourished in the playoffs, and Kurt Thomas, who should help on both ends of the floor; both are a year wiser and offseason signee Andrew Lang can be consistent on the boards.

    What drags New York today is Ewing, perhaps the greatest Knick of all time, who turned 37 in August and may not be so accommodating on offense as he once was. He has played just 26 and 38 regular season games the past two seasons, and his backups Lang and Chris Dudley are not viable alternatives, providing hardly any scoring. "We have basically gotten comfortable with what it takes to win without Patrick. Father time is undefeated," said coach Jeff Van Gundy, who agreed a two-year extension on his contract in July. "We need to figure out if we can be anything more than a .500 team without him, because that is what we have been the last two years without him."

    There's also concerns with their backcourt rotations -- point guards Charlie Ward and Chris Childs both return and are little more than backups, often hurting the team's offensive flow. The team could also do by adding a swingman in free agency; if Sprewell and/or Houston suffer injuries, David Wingate (36 years old) and offseason addition John Wallace (in his fourth season in the league) will not suffice as starters on an extended basis. At the same time, much will depend on the unstable relationship between the volatile Sprewell and his coach. We don't know how long the honeymoon is going to last -- the player won the first battle of the season when Van Gundy gave up and decided, perhaps against his better judgment, to start him at small forward instead of bringing him off the bench.

    With the squad's big names intact and chemistry among them now built, there is little question that the team will exceed their win percentage from last season, but it's hard to imagine Madison Square Garden rockin' for the first time since 1973 unless the front office is able to add some pieces via trades.

    BEST SCENARIO: 58-24, Eastern Conference Finals

    WORST SCENARIO: 43-39, Eastern Conference Quarterfinals
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:09 pm

Pat stayed relatively healthy his last three years in the league, so hopefully he sees a resurgence here.
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby wdt92 on Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:11 am

Definitely following!

Looking forward to seeing what you do with these Knicks. In real life, despite remaining healthy, Ewing had another drop-off in the 2000 season. Particularly seen defensively as his minutes lowered the more he struggled vertically with contesting and protecting the rim as he did the season before. It will be curious how long you roll with Ewing before switching the role to Camby.
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What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe | G1 vs. LAC

Postby kibaxx7 on Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:52 pm

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    The Los Angeles Clippers needed two newcomers to stop last year's finalists on their tracks.

    Rookie Lamar Odom wasted no time making a mark in the NBA, posting 18 of his 24 points after halftime as the Clippers recovered from a 9-point deficit to defeat the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden, 97-89, in the season opener for both teams. "Lamar is a heck of a player. He did a superb job to get us back, and our defense behind him did a great job too," Clippers head coach Chris Ford said of his rookie, who also had 11 boards and six dimes. "I'm just an athletic, extremely high-energy guy,'' Odom said. "I'm willing to do anything to help my group win." Acquired from the Cleveland Cavaliers, Derek Anderson had 19, six rebounds and eight assists as Los Angeles tries to bounce back from last year's 9-41 record.

    The setback remarked New York's need for a bigger inside presence. The Knicks were outrebounded, 49-30, with Patrick Ewing and Larry Johnson combining for 12 points in 5-of-18 shooting. "They just outplayed us in the second half,'' said Allan Houston, who paced the hosts with a game-best 29 points. "In front of our fans, it felt embarrassing.'' With a 49-45 lead at intermission, an alley-oop from Jeff McInnis to Michael Olowokandi ignited a 10-1 run, as the Clippers cranked up their defensive intensity and never looked back again -- Maurice Taylor had six of his 13 points in the burst. "That second half... I am not pleased," Knicks head coach Jeff Van Gundy said. "I just think we didn't compete. They stepped up and I don't know what would have happened tonight without our backcourt." Latrell Sprewell kept the Knicks on board with 20 points as Marcus Camby, off the bench, posted 10, making just three Knicks in double figures.

    Olowokandi had nine points and 11 rebounds of his own, focusing on stoping Ewing -- a work he did to perfection. The big man from Georgetown had just six points and five rebounds in 30 minutes. "We got hammered down the stretch," said Ewing, in his first game back after missing most of last season's playoffs with a torn Achilles tendon. "Give me some time to get back on track." Sprewell said that the Knicks just need to find their tune again. "We played some pretty good defense in the first half, and I think that will carry over for us, but there's definitely a lot of work to do if we want to fulfill something special." Charlie Ward scored just four points but had four assists and five steals for the Knicks, closing a back-to-back tomorrow at Golden State (0-0), as LA hosts the same Warriors on Thursday.
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby kibaxx7 on Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:54 pm

Andrew wrote:Pat stayed relatively healthy his last three years in the league, so hopefully he sees a resurgence here.

Well, time's catching up to him. :|

wdt92 wrote:Definitely following!

Looking forward to seeing what you do with these Knicks. In real life, despite remaining healthy, Ewing had another drop-off in the 2000 season. Particularly seen defensively as his minutes lowered the more he struggled vertically with contesting and protecting the rim as he did the season before. It will be curious how long you roll with Ewing before switching the role to Camby.

I think I'm gonna keep him in the starting five this year. Legacy, more than anything. Camby will take that spot at some time, obviously.
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby Andrew on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:18 pm

Not the start you wanted, but it's just one out of 82. Hope Ewing can be a bit more effective than that moving forward!
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What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe | G2 @ GS

Postby kibaxx7 on Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:01 am

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    "Give me some time to get back on track," said Patrick Ewing 24 hours ago, after a 6-point, 3-of-10 shooting effort in the New York Knicks' loss to the Los Angeles Clippers. Well, that was fast.

    Ewing turned back the clock with 28 points and 11 rebounds, going 10-of-13 from the floor, as the Knicks crawled back from a 13-point deficit and survived a potential Antawn Jamison winner at Oracle Arena to win 96-94. "I know I could have done a lot better against the Clippers last night but it's not about points. It's about wins," said Ewing, who inbounded the ball to a wide-open Latrell Sprewell in what ended up being the game clincher -- Allan Houston set the screen that freed him and left Jamison and Mookie Blaylock perplexed. "I knew my team was counting on me to rise up and I was able to knock it down. It felt superb," said Sprewell, who notched in a game-high 29 points, with New York using a 12-2 run in the final frame to take their first win of the season. "But Pat was the man tonight. He just took over."

    Following a timeout by head coach P.J. Carlesimo, Blaylock inbounded to Jamison, who hit the rim on a potential winning 3-pointer as the buzzer sounded. "Just bad luck," said Jamison, who was 8-of-22 for 17 points. "We could have done a better job containing their offense, but luck was not on our side tonight." Bad luck indeed: Jamison and Larry Hughes combined for 0-of-11 from beyond the arc as the Warriors were 4-of-24 as a unit from 3-point territory -- their reserves also outscored New York's, 34-8, led by rookie Vonteego Cummings (11 points), who was injured on an ugly looking fall in the third period, but left the floor without knowing how bad it is. "I fell pretty bad,'' said Cummings. "I am going to get re-evaluated in the morning.'' All signs point to a strained MCL, which would keep him off the court for at least two weeks. Terry Cummings and Chris Mills posted eight points each. Blaylock led Golden State with 26 points and seven assists, as Hughes scored 10.

    Larry Johnson made 7-of-12 shots for 16 points -- one of four Knicks in double figures, bouncing back from a 6-point effort last night. However, his biggest impact came on defense; the former 1st overall pick in 1991 harassed Donyell Marshall, who often settled for bad shots: 2-of-11 for five points. "They shot pretty well in the second half. We made some crucial mistakes and couldn't hold them enough to get the win," Marshall said. Quiet up to halftime with just four points, Houston displayed some of his trademark fuel in the second half, posting 11 of his 15 points; Charlie Ward was held scoreless by Blaylock, but was able to grab seven boards and dish 11 assists. "Pat stepping up like that this quick is really encouraging," said Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy, "but there is not a lot to take out of this one. This is a game we should have lost."
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Postby kibaxx7 on Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:04 am

Andrew wrote:Not the start you wanted, but it's just one out of 82. Hope Ewing can be a bit more effective than that moving forward!

Well, 28-11, I hope Pat can have more nights like this! Jamison missed that shot and it felt so good.
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:33 pm

That's definitely more like it!
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby [Hyperize] on Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:52 am

Man, this is so cool... need this mod.
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What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe | G3 vs. SA

Postby kibaxx7 on Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:13 pm

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    With ten starters combining for 155 of the game's 168 points, it was a battle of starting fives at Madison Square Garden.

    The San Antonio Spurs were able to ride three players scoring 20 or more points and used a 18-3 run in the third quarter to take the lead for good in a 91-77 defeat of the New York Knicks. "We got into a nice groove in the second half," said Tim Duncan, who led the visitors with a game-high 23 and nine boards. "It's tricky to defend this squad." The teams met for the first time since the Finals, with the Spurs taking home the championship, 4-1. "Obviously there's going to be emotions in play here whether you want it there or not, but it was more important for us to get a victory,'' said David Robinson, Duncan's partner in crime, who notched in 20 and six. Guards Terry Porter, offseason signee, and Mario Elie posted 21 and 17 points, respectively, but Elie showed praise for another teammate. "Some of us scored a lot, but you don't have to score to help your team," he said. "Just look at Sean (Elliott)'s game. He played great defense, got boards for us, he assisted and found us open". Elliott had just four points but grabbed six rebounds and dished out five assists for San Antonio, closing down on Latrell Sprewell, who was 7-of-19 from the field for the Knicks.

    "It just shows you the balance they have,'' said Patrick Ewing, who scored 17 points and was absent in the Finals series this past June. "They are the champions for a reason. That's their greatness. Duncan and Robinson are obviously part of the league's elite, but they have so much around them.'' Sprewell and Allan Houston kept the Knicks in play with 18 points each, as the team shot just 41 percent and was outrebounded, 46-33. The result also noted New York's lack of rotation: Sprewell and Houston's backups, John Wallace and David Wingate, were both scoreless. "When our starters needed a break, they defended our reserves really, really well and took us out of our offense," coach Jeff Van Gundy said. "We couldn't get a bucket to save our lives." Behind Houston and Larry Johnson, who scored 10 of his 14 points in the first half, New York raced to a 45-39 halftime lead, but then the third frame happened.

    Led by Robinson, the Spurs outhustled the Knicks -- the former MVP and Porter each had six points during the aformentioned 18-3 spark, as San Antonio transformed a 10-point second-quarter deficit into a 10-point final period lead, shooting 10-for-15 (67 percent) while New York missed 9 of 13. They also attempted a dozen more free throws throughout the contest -- 24-for-31 against 14-for-19. "It was one disappointing possession after another," Sprewell said. "We are having some difficulties on the glass as well. There's a lot of work to be done." The Knicks got no closer than 11 points in the final twelve minutes. "Their inside scoring and rebounding set the tone," Van Gundy added. "We were able to pile some turnovers on them, but we couldn't capitalize on them on the other end. That was the game right there." The Knicks lost both games at Madison Square Garden so far, but will look to bounce back this Sunday when they host the Atlanta Hawks (0-2).
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby kibaxx7 on Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:14 pm

Andrew wrote:That's definitely more like it!

He's slowly drifting back to reality now. :lol:

cavs4872 wrote:Man, this is so cool... need this mod.

Thanks man! Check UBR for 2K14. I think the links are down, though. (N)
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby RMJH4 on Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:15 pm

Damn Spurs, always besting the Knicks back at that time! Ewing is far from finished, needs some youth alongside him. I always wanted Camby to start more alongside him, but that would have really annoyed Larry Johnson. The Knicks always needed a little more shooting. When they traded Ewing the following season I liked the idea of picking up Glen Rice, but of course the trade was a total disaster. If you can add more outside shooting you can make a nice run this year. I suppose if Houston stays healthy that could solve a lot of problems too, fingers crossed for his health! I still can't believe the Knicks selected Fred Weis in the draft that season, if they hadn't passed on Ron Artest that would have been the spark they needed off the bench, and he would have fitted in perfectly with his defensive grit and tenacity! Oh the Knicks and their terrible drafting!
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby Murat on Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:16 pm

these kids don't know the days when thierry had +40 failed dynasty stories. good luck with this one, i think it would consume so much time to create these graphics
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Postby [Hyperize] on Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:21 am

Murat wrote:these kids don't know the days when thierry had +40 failed dynasty stories.

What? I was a member of this site before you. :lol:
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What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe | G4 vs. ATL

Postby kibaxx7 on Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:10 am

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    "Rebounding is a key to victory", some would say. Well, then you have to make your shots.

    Latrell Sprewell scored 13 of his 25 points in the third quarter and Allan Houston added 20 for the night as the New York Knicks used a 16-2 spark to start the second half and defeat Atlanta, 103-86. The Hawks had a huge edge on the glass, 50-34 -- including 15 on offense -- but weren't able to take advantage of it, shooting 42 percent from the field and 26 percent from beyond the arc. On the other hand, the hosts were effective, with Houston and Sprewell joining forces to shoot 16-of-23 from the floor, including 4-of-7 from long range. They made 51 percent of their attempts, with 27 assists on 40 field goals made. "We have got to play like this every night," said Houston. "This intensity will earn us some more wins." After 12 lead changes in the first half, the mentioned 16-2 run gave the Knicks a 65-48 advantage that they never surrendered, leading by as much as 24 points in the fourth frame. "At halftime we talked about the fact that we didn't come out with the energy we needed to," head coach Jeff Van Gundy said. "It's evident that the players got the message loud and clear."

    Patrick Ewing started the game 1-of-6 but went perfect the rest of the way for 16 points, with Marcus Camby tallying 12 off the bench -- the Knicks' substitutes stunned Atlanta's, 30-23, with John Wallace and Chris Childs adding six points each. On the other end of the court, New York had a season-high eight blocks, and seven of them came from reserves: Wallace and Kurt Thomas had two each. "Our first half was not what we hoped for, but we were able to adjust," Ewing said. "Everybody was great today. Our bench really lifted us up." Well, perhaps not Larry Johnson, who posted just four points. "We did a great job of moving the ball around,'' said Sprewell, who had a season-best five dimes. "When we play together like this, good things usually happen for our team.'' Charlie Ward's statline was a bright spot, with eight and seven assists, while keeping rookie Jason Terry on his pocket.

    Terry argued with the referees more than once and was called for two technicals, one in each half, and was thrown out with 5:33 remaining with only 10 points to his name. "We just didn't come out and play after halftime, myself included," Terry said. "To come out and play the way we did, the way I did... I apologize to the rest of the guys." With 16 points and ten rebounds, Alan Henderson was a surprise for Atlanta, leading five players in double figures -- Dikembe Mutombo and Jim Jackson notched in 13 points apiece. The Hawks were sloppy with the ball, committing 15 turnovers to New York's six, and are still winless at 0-3, with two more games on the road coming -- at Utah and New Jersey. "We just can't figure out why we've been coming out flat," said head coach Lenny Wilkens. "We got the boards, we got the shots, but we couldn't make them count. We will need to sit and work on those mistakes." Terry and Isaiah Rider combined to make just 8-of-26 attempts.
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby kibaxx7 on Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:14 am

seaboh13 wrote:Damn Spurs, always besting the Knicks back at that time! Ewing is far from finished, needs some youth alongside him. I always wanted Camby to start more alongside him, but that would have really annoyed Larry Johnson. The Knicks always needed a little more shooting. When they traded Ewing the following season I liked the idea of picking up Glen Rice, but of course the trade was a total disaster. If you can add more outside shooting you can make a nice run this year. I suppose if Houston stays healthy that could solve a lot of problems too, fingers crossed for his health! I still can't believe the Knicks selected Fred Weis in the draft that season, if they hadn't passed on Ron Artest that would have been the spark they needed off the bench, and he would have fitted in perfectly with his defensive grit and tenacity! Oh the Knicks and their terrible drafting!

Thanks for the comment, man! I'm really happy with my shooting so far, but I need a backup for Sprewell and Houston. There's little to no offense when they are resting. I'd trade away Larry Johnson and a pick for a good sixth man in a heartbeat (the 2000 draft was pretty bad). Camby would take the spot. Two birds with one stone. We'll see...

Murat wrote:these kids don't know the days when thierry had +40 failed dynasty stories. good luck with this one, i think it would consume so much time to create these graphics
cavs4872 wrote:What? I was a member of this site before you. :lol:

Oh, those dark times. I'm all in with these guys, the game is fun to play once again. The graphics don't take a lot of time, 15-20 minutes. Bear with me. :cheeky:
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Re: What If...? | NYK 1999-2000: We Still Believe

Postby wdt92 on Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:17 pm

So far an up and down season. I think the age is showing a bit so far with how the guys have a great game then have a mediocre one next time out. LJ would be an interesting trade piece and a logical one. Back then the spacing wasn't considered at all, so two offensively similar bigs wouldn't be abnormal with Camby and Ewing. Defensively it would be an upgrade as well.

An idea would be trying to get Artest from the Bulls to fit your role. Though, I believe offensively he hasn't yet really taken a big step forward and won't until he gets to the Pacers. Rip might be available for this type of trade from the Wizards as they easily swapped him for Stackhouse later. Larry Hughes, despite not being as big of a name, might also be a name to consider for the trade for the wing position. All of these guys, at this time, should be around their early 20s which could fit your timeline of getting younger while maintaining a skillset if that's your end decision following the next few games. You'd realistically also be able to demand a few picks in the trade. You're in an interesting position however, where there's not really a clearcut road that the team is on.

If you decide to try and win now, you have Doug Christie who could help, Jalen Rose, and Jerry Stackhouse all could be viable options as well. You would be still in the late 20s and would only have to give up a single pick I imagine.

Anyway, just some suggestions for options! Hopefully, you'll be able to pick up more wins as the season moves along.
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