Kevin wrote:But on a very serious note (and I'm really not kidding) - do the Rockets even need a coach?
troll or...b. Why do they keep shooting and missing?
I-Because watching the Rockets is getting worse than watching the all-star game.
Thought you hated iso plays? The ASG relied on threes to procure hype, that's Warriors music right there.Iso, shoot or drive, try to rebound, defend, repeat. No plays being run, no movement on offense. And the refs making calls on top of that. It's horrible to watch.
wasn't the gameplan decades ago, iso plays for the most part? That's what the rockets are doing with harden with just more emphasis on three-pointers and not mid-range shots. (and kick outs to players who can also shoot threes)
If you want to hate on any of these two teams here, hate on the Warriors. They changed the NBA landscape and made it to this. Small ball, erasure of pure post centers, the emergence (or normalization) of stretch 4s and 5s, and the importance of the three-ball because after a hundred years analytics finally figured out that 3>2
NovU wrote:LoL, Rockets took 50 threes.debiler wrote:a. I thought this was a team game...
b. Why do they keep shooting and missing?
c. Where's the fun in watching that?
90-00 basketball with Iverson, McGrady, Kobe, Jordan, and Arenas! You must hate basketball.
debiler wrote:Kevin wrote:But on a very serious note (and I'm really not kidding) - do the Rockets even need a coach?
troll or...b. Why do they keep shooting and missing?
I-Because watching the Rockets is getting worse than watching the all-star game.
Thought you hated iso plays? The ASG relied on threes to procure hype, that's Warriors music right there.Iso, shoot or drive, try to rebound, defend, repeat. No plays being run, no movement on offense. And the refs making calls on top of that. It's horrible to watch.
wasn't the gameplan decades ago, iso plays for the most part? That's what the rockets are doing with harden with just more emphasis on three-pointers and not mid-range shots. (and kick outs to players who can also shoot threes)
If you want to hate on any of these two teams here, hate on the Warriors. They changed the NBA landscape and made it to this. Small ball, erasure of pure post centers, the emergence (or normalization) of stretch 4s and 5s, and the importance of the three-ball because after a hundred years analytics finally figured out that 3>2
Oh, don't get me wrong - I dislike the Warriors too. And to clarify my earlier post: No, I don't hate ISO plays and I don't hate 3-point plays either. What I do hate, however, is when a team does nothing else. The inability to do anything but go for the three is exactly what cost the Rockets game 7 last year. I can't believe they stuck with that gameplan even though they were ice cold from downtown all game long. That's why I asked if they even needed a coach. If they're gonna do the same thing over and over again, the question automatically arises. You have one of the best point guards of the modern era on that team - but you don't utilize his full skillset. It's frustrating as hell to watch. I do enjoy the way PJ Tucker is playing, though. Dudes got heart.
air gordon wrote:jordan was an elite system player?
air gordon wrote:jordan was an elite system player?
sticky-fingers wrote:air gordon wrote:jordan was an elite system player?
Triangle Offense, Phil Jackson
MJ was in the system, ball was shared on offense even if he took most of the shoots.
While LBJ, Giánnis, Harden are the "system" : drive or pass
debiler wrote:NovU wrote:LoL, Rockets took 50 threes.debiler wrote:a. I thought this was a team game...
b. Why do they keep shooting and missing?
c. Where's the fun in watching that?
90-00 basketball with Iverson, McGrady, Kobe, Jordan, and Arenas! You must hate basketball.
Yes, these players were all dominating the ball. But if you can't spot the difference between how these guys' teams played on offense and what the Rockets are doing, then you will likely not understand what I mean.
I get that it can be effective to play that way, I really do. But do I enjoy watching that? No way in bloody hell.
Dee4Three wrote:
The statement that we should be upset at GS for creating the style that Houston is playing is incredibly off. The only thing the two have in common is they like to shoot the three more than the average team.
Golden State has been praised for 5+ years for TEAMWORK, for sharing and moving the ball, for everybody getting involved. Its literally been the staple to that team. The only time ISO ball ever got brought up in regards to GS is with Durant LAST SEASON, and that went away fast. The amount of times fans and media members have commented about the Warriors beautiful brand of basketball with things like "if you don't like watching the Warriors play, you don't like basketball", is unreal, its literally been the staple to that team, even the majority of the time when Durant has been with them.
Houston is playing ISO ball the majority of 48 minutes, with one player dribbling down the shot clock and often times chucking up contested shots. They are the OPPOSITE of what GS has been doing over the last 5 or so years. Which is incredibly easy to see watching them play. Comparing GS team oriented, ball movement style to Houstons incredibly ISO heavy style, and saying GS paved the way for that. Doesn't make any sense.
Kevin wrote:Dee4Three wrote:
The statement that we should be upset at GS for creating the style that Houston is playing is incredibly off. The only thing the two have in common is they like to shoot the three more than the average team.
Golden State has been praised for 5+ years for TEAMWORK, for sharing and moving the ball, for everybody getting involved. Its literally been the staple to that team. The only time ISO ball ever got brought up in regards to GS is with Durant LAST SEASON, and that went away fast. The amount of times fans and media members have commented about the Warriors beautiful brand of basketball with things like "if you don't like watching the Warriors play, you don't like basketball", is unreal, its literally been the staple to that team, even the majority of the time when Durant has been with them.
Houston is playing ISO ball the majority of 48 minutes, with one player dribbling down the shot clock and often times chucking up contested shots. They are the OPPOSITE of what GS has been doing over the last 5 or so years. Which is incredibly easy to see watching them play. Comparing GS team oriented, ball movement style to Houstons incredibly ISO heavy style, and saying GS paved the way for that. Doesn't make any sense.
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say, Dee. I didn't say that GS created the style that Houston is playing, I meant that GS' heavy use of the 3pt line made the NBA use it more often now too, unlike before with the postup game and the midrange isos. He also has clarified that he didn't hate 3pt plays which I thought he did hence the "hate on the Warriors" remark.
PS: Can we chill with the passive-aggressive comments on this thread? yall gotta chill lmao
air gordon wrote:Yeah dude chill out. Too bad youre butt hurt the Celts were eliminated via gentleman's sweep. No need to take it out on the forum
air gordon wrote:You take this way too seriously. Enjoy the have. Cheers mate
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