Vicerex wrote:Easy enough, I'll put this debate to rest right now with gameplay. I'm not sure what the rules are on posting personal videos on this site so I'll just post a link instead of embedding them.
I will preface this by saying I'm no YouTuber nor am I trying to be, so the quality is poor (I think because I had HDR on). Also for some reason the only sound it recorded was the whistles and buzzers. This was captured on PS4.
The first video is with User Timing turned on for Shots/Layups. I clearly show in the settings the Shot Meter is off, and I turn User Timing on because I knew if I didn't you'd cry BS. I played the same way I always do, I did not change how I shoot the ball, I did not even focus any attention on my release point, I shot and drove as if I was playing on Real Player %. It was so easy I didn't even miss my first shot until almost 7 minutes into the game:
https://youtu.be/pHUanNo5_mEAfter watching you will see I start off and stay hot, first shot missed at 7 minutes and was shooting 75% until the end where I had a couple bad shots due to good defense which brought my overall for the quarter down to 65% and 40% from 3pt.
Now onto the second quarter, I change back to Real Player % and you will see this. I started off decently hot but it dwindled quick, it was a noticeable shift in the difficulty of making my shots, both from range and on the drive.
https://youtu.be/HSoTJN8bVWIAfter watching this one you will notice I start to struggle a little bit to score. I end up with a 42% & 17% from 3pt. These are low but personally I'm okay with them because it's much more realistic than 65/40.
So my final thoughts are this; If someone like me, who has used Real Player % for years can turn on User Timing without Shot Meter and score this easily, just think how much of a joke it is especially to someone who uses User Timing all of the time and actually practices with it. If I used this all the time and got used to my players sweet spots I'd be shooting 80%+ every single game which quite frankly is a joke.
So the theory that it takes more skill to use User Timing is completely disproved by me, a complete noob to using User Timing. Furthermore as we see in the videos, scoring with Real Player % is noticeably harder to do, however it does result in a more realistic playing experience.
So my point stands, User Timing is cheese/arcade, Real Player % is for simulation players. You have absolutely no leg to stand on bro, you can show quotes of random "pros" that you don't even know all day long. I took the mature route and proved it with gameplay.
This discussion is over. Let's get back to the reason we're here, the sliders.
I want everybody who views this thread to watch and see how someone can doctor gameplay in order to support a point. I break down the gameplay below. On User Timing, EVERY basket made in the quarter is wide open, and only TWO outside shots (Both wide open) are made baskets. He talks about shooting 75% in the first 7 minutes, only ONE outside shot was made in that timeframe (The wide open three). The rest are layups and dunks. Embedded videos to display this ridiculous attempt.
Here is his "User Timing" video. He shoots 6 outside shots in this video, and hits two (The two wide open ones), he missed two good looks as well.
He shot 33% on outside shots, the rest of his baskets are completely wide open under the hoop
1st basket: Dunk with no defense
2nd basket: Layup with no defense
3rd basket: Wide open dunk
4th basket: Shot 4 feet from the rim
5th basket: Wide open three
6th basket: Wide open dunk
7th basket: Wide open layup
8th basket: Wide open dunk
9th basket: Wide open three
10th basket: Wide open layup
11th basket: Open layup
12th basket: Wide open layup
13th basket: Layup
Here is the second video he posted of the second quarter, with "Real Player %. He is taking contested outside shots constantly. This is literally intentional contested shot taking in order to prove a point. I'm actually shocked at the stupidity of displaying these videos as proof, when it's so obvious whats going on. ANYBODY that watches these videos easily sees what I am talking about, and any credibility you had (Which wasn't any to begin with with me) is completely out the window.
1st basket: Made layup
2nd attempt: contested three Missed
3rd attempt: Contested shot
4th basket: Heavily contested three MADE
5th attempt: Heavily contested three missed
6th basket: 5 foot fadeaway semi contested made
7th attempt: Contested corner three:
8th basket: Shot at the rim, made and a foul
9th basket: Wide open layup
10th basket: Wide open dunk
11th attempt: Semi contested three missed
12th attempt: Contested three missed
13th attempt: Wide open dunk
He is playing with easier than pro shooting sliders, and the defense by the CPU could be picked apart (It doesn't need to be because he is just running in for easy scores) by any rookie who picks up the controller, the defense is a joke, and the videos are even more of a joke. Also, in the second video, he doesn't show the sliders (Top of them for shooting) you have no idea if they were changed or not, but the defense is certainly more active in the second video. Regardless, that wouldn't matter in this case really, cause of the 13 basket scored in the user timing video, 11 were WIDE OPEN under the hoop, and the two outside makes were completely WIDE OPEN. But, it would just prove further doctoring.
He called this proof, when on easier than pro sliders for shooting, and horrible CPU defense, he shoots 33% on outside shots with User Timing.Shadymike, I've lost a lot of respect for you calling this "Proof". And for the other dude, you have no respect from me period for this stunt. These videos are absolutely a joke to the max.
Stay awake people, people will certainly prove themselves for what they are over time. Make sure you always watch videos that are sent to you, don't trust anybody until they prove they can be trusted. I am actually infuriated at this, as it insults the intelligence of anybody who views it (This thread and these videos). You should be ashamed of yourself, that is some really low level shit. literally nobody who watches this display (And your words) would ever trust you again on here.