SoF'nAwesome wrote:btw since this series is pretty much decided i just want to say LeBron is better than Jordan (The Cleveland version of LeBron, not Miami), even if they get swept in this series.
Jordan had the best coach in the league at the time, as well as a really strong cast with Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc, Harper, and his competition was honestly not at the same caliber. And the shit LeBron went through this season to get his team to the Finals is as JVG and Jackson said his greatest achievement.
dwayne2005 wrote:Kevin Love needed to draw more fouls.
dwayne2005 wrote:I put numbers in context to show how poorly James team mates were in the last game using the best example possible. I drew on Isaiah in the next post in response to someone who was talking about the adversity James went through this season and pointed out if it were about Isaiah (and if not, what the hell else could it be?) Jim Jackson should be the last person speaking. Everything I posted was warranted.
Kevin Love was getting to the line less than half as frequently as he was during the regular season in that game, but the difference is not much. The point is that if he wasn't hitting his 3's he needed to make amends somehow and he failed to do that. He was a detriment to the team offensively in one of the few 20 point outings he's had in the post-season.
Kerr said, "They have a guy who's playing basketball at a level that I'm not sure anyone's ever seen before when you consider everything he's doing."
shadowgrin wrote:Someone who played with Michael Jordan talking about LeBron...Kerr said, "They have a guy who's playing basketball at a level that I'm not sure anyone's ever seen before when you consider everything he's doing."
sticky-fingers wrote:shadowgrin wrote:Someone who played with Michael Jordan talking about LeBron...Kerr said, "They have a guy who's playing basketball at a level that I'm not sure anyone's ever seen before when you consider everything he's doing."
Can't deny LBJ is the most complete basketball player there's ever been with an amazing longevity.
But sport is about winning. If you check individual and collective stats and achievements, at this point of his career after 15 years, he's still behind few guys.
shadowgrin wrote:I’m just saying I agree with the opinion of the guy who has the viewpoint and experience of that as a general manager and championship winnng player and coach in saying he’s never seen anyone like LeBron.
Jeffx wrote:I don't care how great a player is, without the right supporting cast
"When people start comparing him with Jordan then that's not a fair comparison. Jordan was a far more superior player in a very tough league, he was very creative," former Houston Rockets star Hakeem Olajuwon told CNBC's Worldwide Exchange.
"That's not taking away anything from LeBron because he is a great player but it is not a fair comparison because Jordan is a far superior player."
Jeffx wrote:sticky-fingers wrote:shadowgrin wrote:Someone who played with Michael Jordan talking about LeBron...Kerr said, "They have a guy who's playing basketball at a level that I'm not sure anyone's ever seen before when you consider everything he's doing."
Can't deny LBJ is the most complete basketball player there's ever been with an amazing longevity.
But sport is about winning. If you check individual and collective stats and achievements, at this point of his career after 15 years, he's still behind few guys.
I don't care how great a player is, without the right supporting cast, he can only do so much. It took Jordan seven years to get over the hump, and back then, fans were questioning his ability to win too. Look at the loaded teams Magic & Larry Bird played on. Would they be as successful with a cast like LeBron's?
LeBron reminds me so much of John Elway. Elway got similar criticism - what these "experts" forget is Elway put mediocre teams on his back and took them to Super Bowls, teams that had no business being there.
"The Decision" and losing to Dallas are two things you can get on him for. But that's it.
NovU wrote:Thoughts on Curry.
He is no doubt one of the best in our gen (hate going into cross era discussion, let's leave that for another time). But imho it seems GSW's superteam reputation is undermining impact he brings to the game because general perception is that he's somewhat product of being part of a superteam.
But could he be possibly a better player to build a contender with than LeBron in this 3 point era? He's a threat you can never leave open, always forcing defense to follow around even as an offball player. He also makes 3s and tear drops at efficient rate with defender locked onto him. Not to mention his ability to pass... He complements today's 3 & positionless ball era in perfect ways. Doesn't it ever make you wonder how the team would fare if he was dropped into similar situation as LBJ. Wouldn't it be just easy to build a contender with him from ground zero?
I would love to see him in another jersey to be honest. It'd possibly help out his legacy too if him in prime could lift a shit team into mega contender status.
[Q] wrote:And it wasn't until Jordan got one of the greatest coaches of all time and one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time on his team that his teams started to dominate
Jackie Kong wrote:Honestly don't care about who is better but for the sake of it what about Jordan having Phil Jackson as a coach. Lebron's best ever coach was Spoelstra. So maybe it was about Lebron not wanting to be coached by a proven coach but still.
Jackie Kong wrote:That is sort of my point though. Jordan only started winning titles after Jackson arrived.
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