U R B - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! 2023 Roster Preview! 22ND February!

[Ballaboi]

Hey URB family, I took the liberty of correcting all the colleges for almost all players in the URB Elite Roster. Don't know if anyone else noticed but almost all assigned schools were incorrect. I also switched out 1972 Elgin Baylor for 1965 Elgin Baylor on the Elite West All Star team. The link for the updated roster is posted below for all those who wish to download. I also included in the files some cf's that I had included in my personal files, just so there won't be any headless players in the roster. If by chance I missed any players, let me know and I will upload there iff files or, if you have access to RedMC, you can just plug in whatever file you prefer.

Sko, hopefully you will download the ros file, and edit some of the jerseys assigned in the roster. I know the incorrect jerseys for the 2007 Phoenix Suns has already been addressed. The home jerseys for the 82 Spurs should be the 84hsa file, away is correct though. Also, the 86 Celtics have the away jerseys assigned for both home and away, so obviously that needs to be corrected. The 74 Celtics should have the same jerseys as the 86 Celtics assigned to them. I believe that addresses all jersey fixes, but I was also wondering Sko if you could add some of the alternate jerseys that you left off. Like the black pinstripe jerseys for the 1996 Bulls, the 2006 heat black miami floridians throwbacks, the 2012 heat "black out" jerseys, the 2015 white and black sleeved jerseys, the 2017 Cavs dark blue fanatic and Orange throwback jerseys, and the 2017 Warriors black sleeved and chinese new year jerseys. Not that it's a big deal, but the 2004 Pistons assigned red alternate jersey was not worn until 2006, so that's inaccurate.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mkwcqcukt ... 0Elite.zip

which player have no cfs, i need list.
i rly dont care about Pitino cf, del negro is similar. Also feel free if you want to help and create all portraits and cfs for missing REAL cfs coaches. It will take a while.
Im not adding some special jerseys, home/away/alternate, thats all.
i will check other reports, thx

ps. i checked your zip file. First thing, please never release some fixes, please. I mean, i checked your first 3 png files. PNG0870 is inside part#6 of retro. PNG0242 and PNG0314 is not even in Elite, so my question is why you put them there? Also because you were using your PNG numbers are you sure you didnt use PNG number from my different roster? its best way to overwrite other files or use png numbers from my future release.
Thx in advance for not tryin to help by release some files, all i rly need is correct reports, i will check and fix.

Let me start this off with saying I mean no disrespect Sko, because I could NEVER do all that you do with this mod, and I am a big fan of your work. With that said you need to lighten up bro. All I did I was edit the school ids for one Ros. file, because they were numbered incorrectly due to the fact there were additional fictional schools included in that particular file. For example... Def Jam U, Hard Knox, Dunk You Very Much U, etc... Don't know why that it is, but I can say the same is true with the All Star Roster file as well, which I also manually edited. In no way though was I trying to undermine your work or step on your toes by fixing and releasing it. Figure you had more pressing things with the mod to deal with than that.

As far as the cf misunderstanding goes, I have not found any seasons/roster files with missing cfs. I was stating that because I had inserted specific png files for the roster I was using, I was including those iff files because those are what were assigned in the ROS file I edited, and most are not already included in the URB files. That obviously would result in missing cfs for anyone who downloaded it, and tried playing that roster. Now there were 3 or 4 png files that were already included that I edited and threw in there, such as png0870, which is young Julius Erving. The reason I did that is because I replaced his body/arms with the original Dr. J's body/arms so they went with his face better. The png0870 file you were using was from the black arm fix for 2k13 of hidden legends that were already in the game. Which didn't really match up the skin tones, just got rid of the super dark arms (which Coach Del Negro still has by the way). The other png files I added are NOT currently in the URB anywhere. They include, for example, Amare Stoudemire without goggles for 2007, since he didn't start wearing goggles until 2009, Horace Grant for the Magic with his blue goggles, Young Toni Kukoc for 96 Bulls, Maurice Cheeks with moustache for 83 Sixers, Mullet Larry Bird for 86 Celtics, etc.... So I'm really not seeing where the problem is or why the hostility towards my post.

Which brings me to the other suggestions I made, which were just that... SUGGESTIONS. If you don't want to add Pitino, or any other missing coach for that matter, ok. That's your decision, it's your mod. I can send you a Pitino cf if you're willing to assign it. As far as portaits go, I'll be honest I have no idea how to do that, not that skilled of modder. Again, I can send you a portraits file with Pitino's portrait in it if you want to extract and include. If not, fine... again it's your mod. Same goes for the extra year specific jerseys, just suggestions. However, the 96 Bulls Black Pinstripe, 17 Cavs Dark Blue Cavfanatic, and 15 & 17 Warriors Black sleeved jerseys were there alternates technically.

I don't usually speak for Sko, but I don't think he was trying to be a jerk. The amount of files in this mod is RIDICULOUS and if users start to add small packages like the one you did, it can become a massive mess very quickly. I would recommend any users talk to him via PM about adding additional files or modding current files so we can maintain the structural integrity of the mod. He and I GREATLY appreciate the work that others have put into this mod but there is a systematic way that we have put it together and we need to keep it that way.

Slimm and Sko, I understand and trust me I will NEVER post an edited file again. However, I do still believe it's an overreaction. Again, all I edited was the schools assigned to the players, because they were incorrect. Plus I changed the Elgin Baylor on the Elite All Star Team (because it seemed that 94 rated Elgin Baylor, went better with the rest of the players on both teams, then 73 rated Elgin Baylor). I did not due a huge modification or overhaul of the roster. I added some year specific cfs for my own personal use, that I decided to share so the iff files in the roster matched up. Let me say that I NEVER overwrite any files in the game!! Before I assign a cf not already included in the game, I literally scan the entire URB files to make sure the png# is available. I understand the complexity of this mod, and would never jeopardize it on my own end, and especially not in a file I post for the community! But point taken, and you do not have to worry about it ever happening again. I will leave all corrections to the professionals in the future.

Here are the iff files I added in the zip. Hopefully Sko you just add them to the overall files to avoid any future confusion.

png31134- Horace Grant (Orlando Magic version)
png1784- Scottie Pippen (96 version- 2k generic)
png1760- Dennis Rodman (updated 96 version) file overwrite
png22059- Toni Kukoc (Young Version- no facial hair)
png0242- Kerry Kittles (early 2000's version)
png19909- Amare Stoudemire (No goggles, 2006-2008 version)
png5560- Lebron James (2012 playoff version)
png21222- Kyrie Irving (2016-2018 version)
png11031- Lebron James (Big beard version) file overwrite
png7428- Deron Williams ( big beard version)
png11161- JR Smith (2016-2018 version)
png8767- Wilt Chamberlain (67 version)
png0870- Julius Erving (Young, afro version- better skintone) file overwrite
png8552- Jamaal Wilkes (Young bearded version)
png32142- Norm Nixon (Close resemblance, better skintone)
png4632- Ron Boone (Closer resemblance)
png32125- George Gervin (Updated skintone) file overwrite
png10980- Maurice Cheeks (Younger version w/moustache)
png10766- Julius Erving (Older Doc- 2k12 version)
png1677- Byron Scott (Young version- No flattop)
png10765- Larry Bird (Mullet version- 1985-1987)
png17738- Doc Rivers (Young version)
png0314- Kevin Willis ( Young 80's version- 2k generic)
png2349- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ( Young bearded version- black arms fix) file overwrite

[slimm44]

Hey URB family, I took the liberty of correcting all the colleges for almost all players in the URB Elite Roster. Don't know if anyone else noticed but almost all assigned schools were incorrect. I also switched out 1972 Elgin Baylor for 1965 Elgin Baylor on the Elite West All Star team. The link for the updated roster is posted below for all those who wish to download. I also included in the files some cf's that I had included in my personal files, just so there won't be any headless players in the roster. If by chance I missed any players, let me know and I will upload there iff files or, if you have access to RedMC, you can just plug in whatever file you prefer.

Sko, hopefully you will download the ros file, and edit some of the jerseys assigned in the roster. I know the incorrect jerseys for the 2007 Phoenix Suns has already been addressed. The home jerseys for the 82 Spurs should be the 84hsa file, away is correct though. Also, the 86 Celtics have the away jerseys assigned for both home and away, so obviously that needs to be corrected. The 74 Celtics should have the same jerseys as the 86 Celtics assigned to them. I believe that addresses all jersey fixes, but I was also wondering Sko if you could add some of the alternate jerseys that you left off. Like the black pinstripe jerseys for the 1996 Bulls, the 2006 heat black miami floridians throwbacks, the 2012 heat "black out" jerseys, the 2015 white and black sleeved jerseys, the 2017 Cavs dark blue fanatic and Orange throwback jerseys, and the 2017 Warriors black sleeved and chinese new year jerseys. Not that it's a big deal, but the 2004 Pistons assigned red alternate jersey was not worn until 2006, so that's inaccurate.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mkwcqcukt ... 0Elite.zip

which player have no cfs, i need list.
i rly dont care about Pitino cf, del negro is similar. Also feel free if you want to help and create all portraits and cfs for missing REAL cfs coaches. It will take a while.
Im not adding some special jerseys, home/away/alternate, thats all.
i will check other reports, thx

ps. i checked your zip file. First thing, please never release some fixes, please. I mean, i checked your first 3 png files. PNG0870 is inside part#6 of retro. PNG0242 and PNG0314 is not even in Elite, so my question is why you put them there? Also because you were using your PNG numbers are you sure you didnt use PNG number from my different roster? its best way to overwrite other files or use png numbers from my future release.
Thx in advance for not tryin to help by release some files, all i rly need is correct reports, i will check and fix.

Let me start this off with saying I mean no disrespect Sko, because I could NEVER do all that you do with this mod, and I am a big fan of your work. With that said you need to lighten up bro. All I did I was edit the school ids for one Ros. file, because they were numbered incorrectly due to the fact there were additional fictional schools included in that particular file. For example... Def Jam U, Hard Knox, Dunk You Very Much U, etc... Don't know why that it is, but I can say the same is true with the All Star Roster file as well, which I also manually edited. In no way though was I trying to undermine your work or step on your toes by fixing and releasing it. Figure you had more pressing things with the mod to deal with than that.

As far as the cf misunderstanding goes, I have not found any seasons/roster files with missing cfs. I was stating that because I had inserted specific png files for the roster I was using, I was including those iff files because those are what were assigned in the ROS file I edited, and most are not already included in the URB files. That obviously would result in missing cfs for anyone who downloaded it, and tried playing that roster. Now there were 3 or 4 png files that were already included that I edited and threw in there, such as png0870, which is young Julius Erving. The reason I did that is because I replaced his body/arms with the original Dr. J's body/arms so they went with his face better. The png0870 file you were using was from the black arm fix for 2k13 of hidden legends that were already in the game. Which didn't really match up the skin tones, just got rid of the super dark arms (which Coach Del Negro still has by the way). The other png files I added are NOT currently in the URB anywhere. They include, for example, Amare Stoudemire without goggles for 2007, since he didn't start wearing goggles until 2009, Horace Grant for the Magic with his blue goggles, Young Toni Kukoc for 96 Bulls, Maurice Cheeks with moustache for 83 Sixers, Mullet Larry Bird for 86 Celtics, etc.... So I'm really not seeing where the problem is or why the hostility towards my post.

Which brings me to the other suggestions I made, which were just that... SUGGESTIONS. If you don't want to add Pitino, or any other missing coach for that matter, ok. That's your decision, it's your mod. I can send you a Pitino cf if you're willing to assign it. As far as portaits go, I'll be honest I have no idea how to do that, not that skilled of modder. Again, I can send you a portraits file with Pitino's portrait in it if you want to extract and include. If not, fine... again it's your mod. Same goes for the extra year specific jerseys, just suggestions. However, the 96 Bulls Black Pinstripe, 17 Cavs Dark Blue Cavfanatic, and 15 & 17 Warriors Black sleeved jerseys were there alternates technically.

I don't usually speak for Sko, but I don't think he was trying to be a jerk. The amount of files in this mod is RIDICULOUS and if users start to add small packages like the one you did, it can become a massive mess very quickly. I would recommend any users talk to him via PM about adding additional files or modding current files so we can maintain the structural integrity of the mod. He and I GREATLY appreciate the work that others have put into this mod but there is a systematic way that we have put it together and we need to keep it that way.

Slimm and Sko, I understand and trust me I will NEVER post an edited file again. However, I do still believe it's an overreaction. Again, all I edited was the schools assigned to the players, because they were incorrect. Plus I changed the Elgin Baylor on the Elite All Star Team (because it seemed that 94 rated Elgin Baylor, went better with the rest of the players on both teams, then 73 rated Elgin Baylor). I did not due a huge modification or overhaul of the roster. I added some year specific cfs for my own personal use, that I decided to share so the iff files in the roster matched up. Let me say that I NEVER overwrite any files in the game!! Before I assign a cf not already included in the game, I literally scan the entire URB files to make sure the png# is available. I understand the complexity of this mod, and would never jeopardize it on my own end, and especially not in a file I post for the community! But point taken, and you do not have to worry about it ever happening again. I will leave all corrections to the professionals in the future.

Here are the iff files I added in the zip. Hopefully Sko you just add them to the overall files to avoid any future confusion.

png31134- Horace Grant (Orlando Magic version)
png1784- Scottie Pippen (96 version- 2k generic)
png1760- Dennis Rodman (updated 96 version) file overwrite
png22059- Toni Kukoc (Young Version- no facial hair)
png0242- Kerry Kittles (early 2000's version)
png19909- Amare Stoudemire (No goggles, 2006-2008 version)
png5560- Lebron James (2012 playoff version)
png21222- Kyrie Irving (2016-2018 version)
png11031- Lebron James (Big beard version) file overwrite
png7428- Deron Williams ( big beard version)
png11161- JR Smith (2016-2018 version)
png8767- Wilt Chamberlain (67 version)
png0870- Julius Erving (Young, afro version- better skintone) file overwrite
png8552- Jamaal Wilkes (Young bearded version)
png32142- Norm Nixon (Close resemblance, better skintone)
png4632- Ron Boone (Closer resemblance)
png32125- George Gervin (Updated skintone) file overwrite
png10980- Maurice Cheeks (Younger version w/moustache)
png10766- Julius Erving (Older Doc- 2k12 version)
png1677- Byron Scott (Young version- No flattop)
png10765- Larry Bird (Mullet version- 1985-1987)
png17738- Doc Rivers (Young version)
png0314- Kevin Willis ( Young 80's version- 2k generic)
png2349- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ( Young bearded version- black arms fix) file overwrite

"The professionals"? C'mon, man. There really is no need for snarky comments. I clearly expressed gratitude and Sko echoed it with his post. We appreciate what you have done (I told Sko a long time ago about colleges being wrong) but he probably forgot because he has been insanely busy with work. If you choose to edit aspects of rosters again in the future (and we need all the help we can get), the only thing we are asking is to PM Sko about it before you do and submit any rosters/packages to him via PM or email if and when you do. Really, if you want to PM me instead of Sko because I don't have a language barrier with you, I can then communicate what we talk about to Sko. I'm his monkey-thought translator, in case you haven't noticed.

Thanks for the list of CF's. That's EXACTLY the way to communicate about CF's, arenas, logos, etc.

[onur_190788]

Hello Skoadam, firstly i congratulate you for your great work. This is an an excellent patch I downloaded all retro and current main game files and roster files for 2K14. I am playing this mod but there is some mistakes in the elite roster... For example all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc... I request you to fix this mistakes in elite roster.

Additionally, some important teams are forgotten in elite roster. For example 13Heat (The Champion), 09 Orlando and Cleveland, 06 Dallas (The Finalist), 05 Spurs (The Champion), 04 Minesota etc important teams...
Is this possible to add these important teams in elite roster? If you can add these importan forgotten teams in elite roster, this mod will be even more excellent... Sorry about my english and thanks for everythihg

But all those teams are on the final roster base, man. Elite (I guess) are way less teams, but in the roster base all those teams are there.

Ok man you are right but all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc...

Which court or arena is wrong.

In elite roster, 1986 Celtics court is wrong man, when i play 86 Celtics gs warriors court appears..

[onur_190788]

Hello Skoadam, firstly i congratulate you for your great work. This is an an excellent patch I downloaded all retro and current main game files and roster files for 2K14. I am playing this mod but there is some mistakes in the elite roster... For example all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc... I request you to fix this mistakes in elite roster.

Additionally, some important teams are forgotten in elite roster. For example 13Heat (The Champion), 09 Orlando and Cleveland, 06 Dallas (The Finalist), 05 Spurs (The Champion), 04 Minesota etc important teams...
Is this possible to add these important teams in elite roster? If you can add these importan forgotten teams in elite roster, this mod will be even more excellent... Sorry about my english and thanks for everythihg

Ok guys....you rly think that i missed wrong crowd? Well, im not. You must understand that some things cant be done. In this case, answer yourself first. Do you want to play season/asso without crashes? or you prefer correct crowd. Which part is more important. For me its obvious that free from ctd is better than wrong crowd. Clear? Great.

I thought i fixed Spurs rotations. I did in 2k13 for sure, i will check 2k14. Btw. you said teams have wrong rotation, any other you can point?
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Forgotten teams? Nope, not forgot, it was OUR decission. Its Elite, elite mean Elite, we dont want to have all Spurs teams 99, 03, 05, 07 and 12 Spurs. 3 Spurs teams for one roster is enough. We dont want to have 13 Heat if we already have '12. For sake, we dont want to spam this roster.

Ok man thanks for writing.. In elite roster only 2014 Spurs rotation is wrong (Only 2K14), other teams rotation is right man..

[skoadam]

Hello Skoadam, firstly i congratulate you for your great work. This is an an excellent patch I downloaded all retro and current main game files and roster files for 2K14. I am playing this mod but there is some mistakes in the elite roster... For example all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc... I request you to fix this mistakes in elite roster.

Additionally, some important teams are forgotten in elite roster. For example 13Heat (The Champion), 09 Orlando and Cleveland, 06 Dallas (The Finalist), 05 Spurs (The Champion), 04 Minesota etc important teams...
Is this possible to add these important teams in elite roster? If you can add these importan forgotten teams in elite roster, this mod will be even more excellent... Sorry about my english and thanks for everythihg

But all those teams are on the final roster base, man. Elite (I guess) are way less teams, but in the roster base all those teams are there.

Ok man you are right but all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc...

Which court or arena is wrong.

In elite roster, 1986 Celtics court is wrong man, when i play 86 Celtics gs warriors court appears..

anything else?

[onur_190788]

Hello Skoadam, firstly i congratulate you for your great work. This is an an excellent patch I downloaded all retro and current main game files and roster files for 2K14. I am playing this mod but there is some mistakes in the elite roster... For example all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc... I request you to fix this mistakes in elite roster.

Additionally, some important teams are forgotten in elite roster. For example 13Heat (The Champion), 09 Orlando and Cleveland, 06 Dallas (The Finalist), 05 Spurs (The Champion), 04 Minesota etc important teams...
Is this possible to add these important teams in elite roster? If you can add these importan forgotten teams in elite roster, this mod will be even more excellent... Sorry about my english and thanks for everythihg

But all those teams are on the final roster base, man. Elite (I guess) are way less teams, but in the roster base all those teams are there.

Ok man you are right but all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc...

Which court or arena is wrong.

In elite roster, 1986 Celtics court is wrong man, when i play 86 Celtics gs warriors court appears..

anything else?

Only 86 Celtics court is wrong, other teams are right man.

[slimm44]

Hello Skoadam, firstly i congratulate you for your great work. This is an an excellent patch I downloaded all retro and current main game files and roster files for 2K14. I am playing this mod but there is some mistakes in the elite roster... For example all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc... I request you to fix this mistakes in elite roster.

Additionally, some important teams are forgotten in elite roster. For example 13Heat (The Champion), 09 Orlando and Cleveland, 06 Dallas (The Finalist), 05 Spurs (The Champion), 04 Minesota etc important teams...
Is this possible to add these important teams in elite roster? If you can add these importan forgotten teams in elite roster, this mod will be even more excellent... Sorry about my english and thanks for everythihg

But all those teams are on the final roster base, man. Elite (I guess) are way less teams, but in the roster base all those teams are there.

Ok man you are right but all elite teams fans (crowds) are wrong colour and wearing wrong team shirts... Especially some of old elite teams arenas (courts) are wrong... In elite roster some of teams players positions and rotastions is wrong, for example 2014 Spurs Leonard is PG, Tim Duncan is SF, Belinelli is C, Diaw is PF, Tony Parker is not in first 5 etc...

Which court or arena is wrong.

In elite roster, 1986 Celtics court is wrong man, when i play 86 Celtics gs warriors court appears..

anything else?

Only 86 Celtics court is wrong, other teams are right man.

Thank you for checking.

[skoadam]

I made all major fixes, if there is any missing texture, wrong rotation, wrong logo, wrong court, wrong jersey, please let me know. First re-download retro roster files for 2k14.

[Ballaboi]

I made all major fixes, if there is any missing texture, wrong rotation, wrong logo, wrong court, wrong jersey, please let me know. First re-download retro roster files for 2k14.

Much better Sko. However, I noticed that there are still a number of players with incorrect schools assigned. I'm glad to see you would rather rush through it to make the fixes, instead of just using the file I uploaded as a template . And for what? Because I added 18 iff files to the roster that aren't in URB. Did you even pull up the Ros. to see the cyberfaces that I added? I'm sure anyone who did would agree they make a great addition to the mod. But whatever man?

Like I said Slimm, I'll leave the modding to the "Professionals" from now on... SMH. I can see how much me going through basketball reference to check every single player in the Rosters school, and then manually checking every single school id in the file to make sure they are all accurate was appreciated. Sko would rather just run through the file and fix 70%-80% of them, then to have his mod "Tampered" with. WOW!

[LorryBird]

Hey Sko, I downloaded only the current season files, and it's fantastic. Thank you for your time and work.

I have one quarry, is there any plan to update the playercall names, I mean the commentator pronounce the new players by their number, like 0 or 10.
I'm new to NBA2k , so is it something wrong with my settings or am I missing an update?

I tried Mackubox updated players.bin file and it didn't work. ( I thought the player id's are the same).


and to SLIMM, what's the logic behind the potential ratings man. I trust your work, but why most players are rated 75 and why some young players are rated with potential lesser than their overall. I play only the Association mode and I mostly trade in young players, so do they grow up after a season regardless of their lesser potential rating or does their growth stall because of the lower potential?

[PatTheHead]

Hey Sko, I downloaded only the current season files, and it's fantastic. Thank you for your time and work.

I have one quarry, is there any plan to update the playercall names, I mean the commentator pronounce the new players by their number, like 0 or 10.
I'm new to NBA2k , so is it something wrong with my settings or am I missing an update?

I tried Mackubox updated players.bin file and it didn't work. ( I thought the player id's are the same).


and to SLIMM, what's the logic behind the potential ratings man. I trust your work, but why most players are rated 75 and why some young players are rated with potential lesser than their overall. I play only the Association mode and I mostly trade in young players, so do they grow up after a season regardless of their lesser potential rating or does their growth stall because of the lower potential?

sorry, no chance that 2K14 commentator will pronounce names like LaVine, Lonzo, D'Aronn, Poeltl etc.
those names aren't saved in 2K14. the commenator instead uses players numbers.
there's no way updating commentator in 2K14.

[MadbaLL]

first of all, i think this discussion is going into wrong direction... nothing should be added more, sko and slimm added all what we need, and like sko said, no need to spam the rosters and mod with some additional and extra files... everyone can do it on their own...

also many false reporst started to emerge again... it's becoming annoying, really...


@sko, only thing i remember from elite roster to be fixed is wrong 2007 suns uniforms.

[Rsnail]

Uhmm the Spurs and Pacers in 2018 roster have the wrong logos. I think it's from euroleague or something. I downloaded it just a few minutes ago

[retromanas]

I made all major fixes, if there is any missing texture, wrong rotation, wrong logo, wrong court, wrong jersey, please let me know. First re-download retro roster files for 2k14.

Great, just curious what major fixes was done?

Uhmm the Spurs and Pacers in 2018 roster have the wrong logos. I think it's from euroleague or something. I downloaded it just a few minutes ago

I did the same, but everything is fine for me with Spurs and Pacers new logos in 2018 roster.

[Rsnail]

I made all major fixes, if there is any missing texture, wrong rotation, wrong logo, wrong court, wrong jersey, please let me know. First re-download retro roster files for 2k14.

Great, just curious what major fixes was done?

Uhmm the Spurs and Pacers in 2018 roster have the wrong logos. I think it's from euroleague or something. I downloaded it just a few minutes ago

I did the same, but everything is fine for me with Spurs and Pacers new logos in 2018 roster.

I forgot to paste the logos and cf#2

[slimm44]

I made all major fixes, if there is any missing texture, wrong rotation, wrong logo, wrong court, wrong jersey, please let me know. First re-download retro roster files for 2k14.

Much better Sko. However, I noticed that there are still a number of players with incorrect schools assigned. I'm glad to see you would rather rush through it to make the fixes, instead of just using the file I uploaded as a template . And for what? Because I added 18 iff files to the roster that aren't in URB. Did you even pull up the Ros. to see the cyberfaces that I added? I'm sure anyone who did would agree they make a great addition to the mod. But whatever man?

Like I said Slimm, I'll leave the modding to the "Professionals" from now on... SMH. I can see how much me going through basketball reference to check every single player in the Rosters school, and then manually checking every single school id in the file to make sure they are all accurate was appreciated. Sko would rather just run through the file and fix 70%-80% of them, then to have his mod "Tampered" with. WOW!

I have to hand it to you, ballaboi, It's posts like this that make me seriously question whether or not to make the THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of hours of work that Sko and I have put into this mod public. I am a grown man with two full time jobs, a wife, and 4 kids. I'm a fairly busy guy. In my spare time AND BECAUSE I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY THEIR GAMING EXPERIENCE, I put WAY too much time into this project than I should.

We have created roster files for two different games that span almost 60 years (along with multiple additional rosters). In EVERY file, we included the most realistic information we could possibly include. Do you have any idea how many hours it took just to compile working playbooks according to sets? NO. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I assure you, it took MONTHS. You found one set of errors (largely because the college tab wasn't pasted) in one roster file and BERATE us for it.

You edited ONE ASPECT of ONE ROSTER, release it in a way that could damage the integrity of a mod that has been 5 years in the making, then have the balls to talk to both of us like dogs after we tried to be civil? TWICE!?!?!?

Man, go sit down somewhere.

[Ballaboi]

I made all major fixes, if there is any missing texture, wrong rotation, wrong logo, wrong court, wrong jersey, please let me know. First re-download retro roster files for 2k14.

Much better Sko. However, I noticed that there are still a number of players with incorrect schools assigned. I'm glad to see you would rather rush through it to make the fixes, instead of just using the file I uploaded as a template . And for what? Because I added 18 iff files to the roster that aren't in URB. Did you even pull up the Ros. to see the cyberfaces that I added? I'm sure anyone who did would agree they make a great addition to the mod. But whatever man?

Like I said Slimm, I'll leave the modding to the "Professionals" from now on... SMH. I can see how much me going through basketball reference to check every single player in the Rosters school, and then manually checking every single school id in the file to make sure they are all accurate was appreciated. Sko would rather just run through the file and fix 70%-80% of them, then to have his mod "Tampered" with. WOW!

I have to hand it to you, ballaboi, It's posts like this that make me seriously question whether or not to make the THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of hours of work that Sko and I have put into this mod public. I am a grown man with two full time jobs, a wife, and 4 kids. I'm a fairly busy guy. In my spare time AND BECAUSE I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY THEIR GAMING EXPERIENCE, I put WAY too much time into this project than I should.

We have created roster files for two different games that span almost 60 years (along with multiple additional rosters). In EVERY file, we included the most realistic information we could possibly include. Do you have any idea how many hours it took just to compile working playbooks according to sets? NO. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I assure you, it took MONTHS. You found one set of errors (largely because the college tab wasn't pasted) in one roster file and BERATE us for it.

You edited ONE ASPECT of ONE ROSTER, release it in a way that could damage the integrity of a mod that has been 5 years in the making, then have the balls to talk to both of us like dogs after we tried to be civil? TWICE!?!?!?

Man, go sit down somewhere.

Slimm, trust me man I definitely understand the amount of work you and Sko have put into this mod, and I as I said before anything else I AM A BIG FAN! I appreciate and respect ALL the work you guys have put in to this mod, and know there's no way I or 99% of the modders out there could replicate what you guys have accomplished. So PLEASE don't take my venting personal (because it was not directed at you in the first place). Nor does it take away my admiration for Sko's work.

However, with all that being said, it doesn't take away the frustration from me putting hours in, to edit a simple overlook in ONE (as you clearly put it) ROS. file, to receive such backlash. The thousands upon thousands of hours you guys put in, is the main reason I decided to do it myself. Instead of whine like most about a fallacy, hoping you guys would get to it with the TONS of other, more pressing stuff you have going on with the mod, and real life things to deal with. I call myself being helpful, and my work is just shooed to the side. The only reason I wrote my last post is because a number of the school id's are still incorrect, and I already did the work. It would have took Sko less time to download my file, add the few jerseys that needed changed and the 86 Celtics court and be done with it. And every players school id would be correct! But apparently he has too much pride to use an edited Roster from an outsider.

And for the life of me, I still do not understand how correcting the players school ids jeopardizes the integrity of the mod in any way! I just can't wrap my brain around that. How in the world does that. or can that damage the integrity of the mod? I noticed he changed the Elite All Star Elgin Baylor as I did in the new release, so that wasn't an issue apparently. The only other thing is the added iff files, which again, are nowhere in the URB files, in any season mod.

I'm not berating you or Sko for a minor error in one roster file, after all the great work that's been put in this mod! Are you serious!?! That's like criticizing a supermodel, because she has deformed pinky toe. I mean, everything can't be perfect. You overlook that. But if she goes to a cosmetic surgeon and gets her toe fixed, and you call the surgeon and start trippin out on them for fixing it, as the surgeon, you would feel kind of disrespected and unappreciated. Which is what my last rant was about. Don't take anything I posted as a sign of disrespect or lack of appreciation for this wonderful mod, because it's not. It's more so out of frustration for the lack of appreciation for the tiny little bit I tried to do to help. Which coincidentally, still isn't completely accurate.

[slimm44]

I made all major fixes, if there is any missing texture, wrong rotation, wrong logo, wrong court, wrong jersey, please let me know. First re-download retro roster files for 2k14.

Much better Sko. However, I noticed that there are still a number of players with incorrect schools assigned. I'm glad to see you would rather rush through it to make the fixes, instead of just using the file I uploaded as a template . And for what? Because I added 18 iff files to the roster that aren't in URB. Did you even pull up the Ros. to see the cyberfaces that I added? I'm sure anyone who did would agree they make a great addition to the mod. But whatever man?

Like I said Slimm, I'll leave the modding to the "Professionals" from now on... SMH. I can see how much me going through basketball reference to check every single player in the Rosters school, and then manually checking every single school id in the file to make sure they are all accurate was appreciated. Sko would rather just run through the file and fix 70%-80% of them, then to have his mod "Tampered" with. WOW!

I have to hand it to you, ballaboi, It's posts like this that make me seriously question whether or not to make the THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of hours of work that Sko and I have put into this mod public. I am a grown man with two full time jobs, a wife, and 4 kids. I'm a fairly busy guy. In my spare time AND BECAUSE I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY THEIR GAMING EXPERIENCE, I put WAY too much time into this project than I should.

We have created roster files for two different games that span almost 60 years (along with multiple additional rosters). In EVERY file, we included the most realistic information we could possibly include. Do you have any idea how many hours it took just to compile working playbooks according to sets? NO. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I assure you, it took MONTHS. You found one set of errors (largely because the college tab wasn't pasted) in one roster file and BERATE us for it.

You edited ONE ASPECT of ONE ROSTER, release it in a way that could damage the integrity of a mod that has been 5 years in the making, then have the balls to talk to both of us like dogs after we tried to be civil? TWICE!?!?!?

Man, go sit down somewhere.

Slimm, trust me man I definitely understand the amount of work you and Sko have put into this mod, and I as I said before anything else I AM A BIG FAN! I appreciate and respect ALL the work you guys have put in to this mod, and know there's no way I or 99% of the modders out there could replicate what you guys have accomplished. So PLEASE don't take my venting personal (because it was not directed at you in the first place). Nor does it take away my admiration for Sko's work.

However, with all that being said, it doesn't take away the frustration from me putting hours in, to edit a simple overlook in ONE (as you clearly put it) ROS. file, to receive such backlash. The thousands upon thousands of hours you guys put in, is the main reason I decided to do it myself. Instead of whine like most about a fallacy, hoping you guys would get to it with the TONS of other, more pressing stuff you have going on with the mod, and real life things to deal with. I call myself being helpful, and my work is just shooed to the side. The only reason I wrote my last post is because a number of the school id's are still incorrect, and I already did the work. It would have took Sko less time to download my file, add the few jerseys that needed changed and the 86 Celtics court and be done with it. And every players school id would be correct! But apparently he has too much pride to use an edited Roster from an outsider.

And for the life of me, I still do not understand how correcting the players school ids jeopardizes the integrity of the mod in any way! I just can't wrap my brain around that. How in the world does that. or can that damage the integrity of the mod? I noticed he changed the Elite All Star Elgin Baylor as I did in the new release, so that wasn't an issue apparently. The only other thing is the added iff files, which again, are nowhere in the URB files, in any season mod.

I'm not berating you or Sko for a minor error in one roster file, after all the great work that's been put in this mod! Are you serious!?! That's like criticizing a supermodel, because she has deformed pinky toe. I mean, everything can't be perfect. You overlook that. But if she goes to a cosmetic surgeon and gets her toe fixed, and you call the surgeon and start trippin out on them for fixing it, as the surgeon, you would feel kind of disrespected and unappreciated. Which is what my last rant was about. Don't take anything I posted as a sign of disrespect or lack of appreciation for this wonderful mod, because it's not. It's more so out of frustration for the lack of appreciation for the tiny little bit I tried to do to help. Which coincidentally, still isn't completely accurate.

Maybe I haven't been as clear as I thought I had been. The integrity issue wasn't about college id's, it was about the CF pack. If we have CF's in the project that Sko isn't tracking in his spreadsheet, we will have 3546841351 user reports of wrong CF's which makes us both want to murder something because it could have been easily avoided with a simple conversation.

We talked about the issues you noticed regarding college id's this morning and the only thing we can think of is they are related to players that we copy and pasted from Pat's 2k13 mod. Every player from 1985 to 2018 that is in the elite roster was pasted from those roster files and no college id issues have been reported whatsoever in them.

This is an example of what I was talking about in the last few posts...instead of talking to me or Sko and asking questions about why there were still errors after he posted the revised roster, you came in here talking craziness. Man, I'm not going to respond to that kind of nonsense. You want to talk to me like an adult, we can talk about anything. You come at me like an idiot and you'll get treated like one. All you had to do was send a PM (or even post in the thread) in a respectful way. Instead, you talked to us like we cussed out your mom or something. I'm really not sure why, but you definitely came off like you were personally insulted in a major way. It's not about Sko or I having too much pride or disrespecting your work. You are personalizing this issue WAY too much.

This is the last time I will say this...we appreciate your willingness to help and hope it will continue. If you decide that you are willing to and can help in any way, it is necessary that you learn how to not personalize everything and learn how to take direction. We're not difficult to work with unless you talk to us crazy, personalize issues, and try to tell us how to do things (which you unintentionally did by releasing the roster and CF pack without talking to us). We are open to ideas on how to make things better but those ideas MUST be presented respectfully or they will be dismissed.

[Ballaboi]

@Slimm Understood man. I did take it personal, which is why I was talking crazy. I thought I had resolved the cf issue by posting each png# and which player they were assigned too. Apparently that wasn't sufficient though. Regarding the remaining issues, yes some are due to the copying and pasting of PattheHead's files because of how he has things organized and assigned. However, that's not true for all of them. Some of the schools are just way off from there actual school that just fixing the numbering problems due to the fictional schools, won't do it. For example, a lot of the UCLA players are assigned to what would be California if the numbering was correct. Which is where they are assigned now, since Sko fixed that issue. The same for former UTEP (University of Texas at El Paso) players. Their fixes have them attending Texas. There are a few others like that, that I don't remember off the top of my head.

Speaking of PattheHead's mod, I'm assuming a lot of the rating systems were just copied and pasted, because the pre-1985 ratings don't resemble your rating system at all lol. I personally think you need to put your personal touch on it, for them to align with the post 1985 teams in the roster. They don't match well. I mean Dr. J has a 99 ovr in Jumping, none of your rosters have a player above an 80 ovr. Speaking of Doc, I noticed the 1974 New York Nets have nobody who can shoot 3's. Everyone has a 25 ovr. I assumed this was done generically because the 3pt line didn't get added to the NBA until the 1979-80 season, but let's not forget the ABA always had a 3pt line. I was looking at the stats and Doc shot 39.5% from 3 that year. Johnny Roche shot 38% from 3. Brian Taylor shot 27.6% that year, which isn't great but I think it warrants better than a 25 ovr. Melchionni shot 21.7%, etc... Point is, it needs your touch.

Lastly, and I mentioned this in my first post when I posted the file, the 1973-74 should have the same jerseys as the 1985-86 Celtics. If you don't believe me you can go to Chris Creamer's Sports Logos site, You can Google Boston Celtics jersey history, you can watch old footage of the 1974 playoffs. I know that was just copied and pasted from PattheHead's mod, because I told him years ago, when I use to assist him with his mod, that from 1973 on... the Celtics should have the jerseys he had assigned for the 80's. Apparently he never got around to changing that.

[retromanas]

Ballaboi, Please leave alone ratings system, it is a good right now in urb and i wouldn't like changes.

Speaking sportslogos you should know that there is dates mistakes on jerseys and logos, don't trust it blindly always check by yourself i mean check by other sources and etc., that's why i'm doing always and then i really know what the date of jersey or logo is actually true.

[Ballaboi]

Ballaboi, Please leave alone ratings system, it is a good right now in urb and i wouldn't like changes.

Speaking sportslogos you should know that there is dates mistakes on jerseys and logos, don't trust it blindly always check by yourself i mean check by other sources and etc., that's why i'm doing always and then i really know what the date of jersey or logo is actually true.

@Retro Seriously man? Was Sports Logos the only source I listed? Do I sound like the type of person that doesn't do my research and trust things blindly? You have NO IDEA how much basketball knowledge I have in my brain, and trust me if I went to the extent of posting it publicly, it's correct. Secondly, does it sound like I had any intentions of messing with Slimm's rating system? I specifically said HE needs to put his touch on it because the teams that were copied and pasted from Pat's mod, don't align rating wise with the teams that were used from the URB mod.

[skoadam]

Pat, one question.
College are ok in your rosters?

[slimm44]

Ballaboi, you're taking retromanas comment personally again. Go back and check if you'd like, he's responded with a similar statement to pretty much everybody who's mentioned logos/jerseys etc. It's not a personal attack. It seems like both of you are confident in what you know, which is cool. But, again, it's going to be really difficult for you to communicate in this thread if you are going to interpret every post as being a personal attack.

Honestly, I forgot to edit the ABA teams over the summer. I will do that sometime but I am not going to put an ETA on it. When I do, I will make sure both ABA teams in Elite have the correct ratings, also.

I also did not edit the vertical, speed, or quickness ratings in rosters from 1960-1984. I'm pretty sure I noted this last summer when I began editing Pat's mod. I don't mind lowering players from 1960-1984 vertical ratings to a max of 80 in time. I'm not going to put an ETA on that, either.

Other than that, every statistical rating and tendency has been rated exactly the same through every NBA year in the project.

[retromanas]

Ballaboi, Please leave alone ratings system, it is a good right now in urb and i wouldn't like changes.

Speaking sportslogos you should know that there is dates mistakes on jerseys and logos, don't trust it blindly always check by yourself i mean check by other sources and etc., that's why i'm doing always and then i really know what the date of jersey or logo is actually true.

@Retro Seriously man? Was Sports Logos the only source I listed? Do I sound like the type of person that doesn't do my research and trust things blindly? You have NO IDEA how much basketball knowledge I have in my brain, and trust me if I went to the extent of posting it publicly, it's correct. Secondly, does it sound like I had any intentions of messing with Slimm's rating system? I specifically said HE needs to put his touch on it because the teams that were copied and pasted from Pat's mod, don't align rating wise with the teams that were used from the URB mod.

l didn't want attack you at all. It's good if you have so much knowledge than fine. About ratings there is still people in this thread who asking and asking about ratings, so that's i mention, just not changing what is good as it is.

[Ballaboi]

@Sko Listen, this is the last thing I will post on this thread and I'll leave ya'll to it. I MANUALLY went through EVERY players school ID, because I do not have full version of RedMC and can't just edit the college tabs (if I could I would just correct every fault I've found in my personal files and keep my opinions to myself), so I know with 100% certainty that a number of players can't be corrected by just editing the overall college tabs and removing the fake schools from it. I call myself explaining that thoroughly, and even using examples that I remembered from going through it. So Pat can tell you whatever he's going to tell you Sko, that doesn't change the fact that it's flat out wrong. Don't know if it's wrong in his mod (haven't played it in awhile and don't remember), but it's wrong in your conversion of it to URB 2k14. Bottom Line!

Take that how you want to take it, That's what it is though. I know Slimm says I'm taking things to personally on here, and he's probably right, but I do take it personal when I'm constantly being second guessed and responded to with discontent when I'm just trying to be helpful. MAMBA OUT!!