Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:23 pm
colin826 wrote:That's supposed to be an NBA rule, they just never call it. The fact that's not travelling in the NBA is riduculous. Lifting the pivot foot like that is travelling in my school games, in the NCAA, and in international play like you said.FanOfAll wrote:Also players like Peja who utilize a jab step very effectively would have lots of turnovers and the players would protest. You can make a jab step according to FIBA rules, but when your pivot foot comes off the ground, the ball must be out of your hands (either dribbling or you already passed it). NBA players would go absolutely crazy over these rules.
Rules from international play that suxor.No defensive 3 seconds
That 'no goaltending' crap
Rules regarding when timeouts can be called
No arm bar allowed in the post (you called this handchecking)
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:50 pm
Gloveguy wrote:
Fgrep, after today's game, my opinion on Marion changed. He got the US some easy baskets and showed great intensity on the floor. He, Odom, Duncan, and Iverson are the only four players that I thought were actually playing well.[/color]
Macca wrote:AD: My biased-ness got in the way. My bad.
DipSetVC wrote:Is Artest joking? He must be! With the amount of touch fouls they call in interntaional play, it'll take maybe 5-6 minutes for him to foul out. He won't get any respect jst because of his great clutching and grabbing skills that he's perfected in the NBA.
FanOfAll wrote:Marion: Glad someone gives him props . I don't care about the bronze game. He played very well. Not the best man up defender, but a great team defender. Great anticipation for steals. Good rebounder for a perimeter defender. Always hustling out there. Probably with James, had the highest +/- on the team.
Gloveguy wrote:Not once did I see Amare post up on someone this Olympics. The only guy who was actually asking for the ball down low was Duncan.
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:11 pm
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:41 pm
FanOfAll wrote:matmat8 wrote:The Nba allows them to play way too much.
Whatever, when are they finally going to make international rules?
I doubt the NBA will ever adopt FIBA rules. Some of the rules are completely laughable. Once the ball hits the rim, you can swat it either in our out. No defensive basket interference. No offensive basket interference either. I don't know why Duncan, Odom, and Marion didn't take advantage of such a lousy rule. There's also no handchecking. Duncan got called for that numerous times. If want the entire NBAPA to revolt because you get called for handchecking, then alright...I guarantee you if they adopted FIBA rules and cracked down on handchecking, top defenders (assuming the coach leaves them just for hypothetical reasons) would be gone in 15 minutes. Also players like Peja who utilize a jab step very effectively would have lots of turnovers and the players would protest. You can make a jab step according to FIBA rules, but when your pivot foot comes off the ground, the ball must be out of your hands (either dribbling or you already passed it). NBA players would go absolutely crazy over these rules.
Plus, adopt things like the trapezoid paint and the shorter 3 pt line, and you're basically sending a message to tell the coaches to play zone, get more shooters, and stop pounding the ball down low. The new MVP's would be guys like Peja and Ray Allen. Not Duncan and KG. Or Shaq. You're going to have some very upset players...
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:31 am
I was going to say that. It's technically a foul when the player is driving, but it's very soft handchecking nowadays in the league. In my school league it's overcalled. A hand following the player on his hip or w/e is called.fgrep15 wrote:Lastly, FIBA rules suck, I don't like that whole cylinder thing, but the NBA actually took out handchecking, I remember John Salley using it as an argument as to why MJ wasn't as good a defender as Kobe![]()
...and I remember Glenn Robinson saying Ray Allen's effectiveness only became better when handchecking was removed because Ray is soft.
The NBA allows it, but not near as much as before, it's very toned down now.
Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:40 am
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