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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed]

Postby johnwest1985 on Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:38 am

i agree that he will be dominant for some more years like until 34 35 but just change upp his game to a post game.. but still he should be at his peek like right now.. some players have peak age set to 31 or 32 which is just not realistic. should be like 28-30..
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed]

Postby GritterAndGrinder on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:07 am

johnwest1985 wrote:i agree that he will be dominant for some more years like until 34 35 but just change upp his game to a post game.. but still he should be at his peek like right now.. some players have peak age set to 31 or 32 which is just not realistic. should be like 28-30..

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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed]

Postby Kevin on Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:19 pm

Alright, fine :lol: .

What age do you he'll start dropping? 34?
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby johnwest1985 on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:00 pm

31 he already dropped this year... less stamina and worse shooting... just his iq and post game grew better
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby Kevin on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:09 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:31 he already dropped this year... less stamina and worse shooting... just his iq and post game grew better
I'll see what I can do.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed]

Postby JEDL on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:16 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:som questions kev,

1)
will your roster tackle the problem with tendencies of mainly point guards driving to the basket all the time ?? its something that is broken in the game and only sliders dont fix. Something that again slimm and albys roster did very well with making the game so much better. They simply had more 3 pointers and midrange shots and less driving to the basket.

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Also want to make you aware that in most rosters Lebron stays 99 for about 4 years ahead. Maybe peak age should go down of most players ??

3) last but not least is the effect of time outs on fatigue.. dont know if there is any way to make it less extreme. Also seems that Power forwards and Centers get tired way to fast in comparison with other players.. Like having some center out on the floor for 4 minutes and they are 70 in fatigue just doesnt work well.. '

i know my questions are kind off random so its more to know if there is anything to do about this broken game :))
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I agree with 1 and 3 although 2 shouldn't be the case.

1)True, I've noticed in both rosters (Meds and UBR) point guards tend to drive too often and occasionally after driving to the hoop, they stop in the paint and do a bunch of pump fakes and draw a foul. Point guards tend to be annoying and unrealistic. Other repetitive plays I've noticed which maybe the root of crappy tendencies is where big men "camp" under the basket where they score effortlessly and shooting guards always spotting up in the perimeter.

2)I feel like some players have peaks which last a long while maybe LeBron is one of them. Although I've also noticed how most players peak too early and burn down in their rotation spots. I think players who peak late should be added (ex. Korver, Nash, Rodman, etc,)

3)I don't know why these roster makers set the stamina ratings for Centers and Power Forwards to be at the range of 70-80 which is absurdly low. Its about after 4 minutes (yes 4 MINUTES) where their energy levels are in 60%-70% whereas guards stay in the high 80%. Its insane!
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby Kevin on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:22 pm

JEDL wrote:
johnwest1985 wrote:som questions kev,

1)
will your roster tackle the problem with tendencies of mainly point guards driving to the basket all the time ?? its something that is broken in the game and only sliders dont fix. Something that again slimm and albys roster did very well with making the game so much better. They simply had more 3 pointers and midrange shots and less driving to the basket.

2)
Also want to make you aware that in most rosters Lebron stays 99 for about 4 years ahead. Maybe peak age should go down of most players ??

3) last but not least is the effect of time outs on fatigue.. dont know if there is any way to make it less extreme. Also seems that Power forwards and Centers get tired way to fast in comparison with other players.. Like having some center out on the floor for 4 minutes and they are 70 in fatigue just doesnt work well.. '

i know my questions are kind off random so its more to know if there is anything to do about this broken game :))
thanks buddy


I agree with 1 and 3 although 2 shouldn't be the case.

1)True, I've noticed in both rosters (Meds and UBR) point guards tend to drive too often and occasionally after driving to the hoop, they stop in the paint and do a bunch of pump fakes and draw a foul. Point guards tend to be annoying and unrealistic. Other repetitive plays I've noticed which maybe the root of crappy tendencies is where big men "camp" under the basket where they score effortlessly and shooting guards always spotting up in the perimeter.

2)I feel like some players have peaks which last a long while maybe LeBron is one of them. Although I've also noticed how most players peak too early and burn down in their rotation spots. I think players who peak late should be added (ex. Korver, Nash, Rodman, etc,)

3)I don't know why these roster makers set the stamina ratings for Centers and Power Forwards to be at the range of 70-80 which is absurdly low. Its about after 4 minutes (yes 4 MINUTES) where their energy levels are in 60%-70% whereas guards stay in the high 80%. Its insane!
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby johnwest1985 on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:29 pm

fun to hear people feel the same... i really love nba 2k14 for many reasons and i feel that with all mods its really fun. The core of the gameplay is really good but its the tendencies as we mentioned..

agree with your point on some players declining to early. I guess its just very obvious with lebron. But you could make a case for him dropping of slowly.. i mean tim duncan is still a good player and is almost 40 hehe.. but i guess we need to test. Agree with players like Korver and other specialist that they get better when older..

maybe we should help out and make a list on players who peek late ?? many times white players with a rating of around 80 with not a huge potential hehe.. so stereotype.. like hayward.

Dwight Howard is a player who in Meds roster declines to slow to my liking. I dont think he will be nearly as good in some years from now.. Also Dwayne Wade due to his body beeing so fragile.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby Kevin on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:58 pm

It would be cool if you can give me more players that you think will peak late.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby johnwest1985 on Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:30 am

The thing is its always guessing work but we could use a sort of formula...

- post players not purely based on physical skills ( nowitzki, aldrige ) and shooters maybe have a longer prime ?
- players beeing injured allot in there early carrear should decline earlier ? D. Rose ( kyrie is rather injury prone isnt he ? )
- and then ofcourse the number of seasons playing in the playoffs all the time effects the players.. tony parker seems effected at least .
- poing guards that develop a shooting game " later " in there career can have a later peek.. only problem is that this probably not will reflect in there numbers..
its also when does the peaking age start ? Jimmy Butler really started peaking this year already beeing 25.. he sort of really broke through rather late. Or ??

maybe some more examples ?

Marc Gasol - late peak
Aldridge- late peak
Westbrook- is almost never injured. I believe he can be superhuman for many years.. but maybe his peak still is not late but normal
Rondo- early peak age end...
Mike Conley- for me a typical player that has a slightly later peak and rather long for a point guard. He is so decent and not only based on pure physical playing
All Jefferson- great player but already looks like an old man to me even though he isnt.. should be declining by now
D Rose- Early peak age end ?? So hard to say


just guessing here.. maybe its good to like start of with the top 100 players.. and make a guessing yourself. I find players like dwight howard staying to good way to many seasons in accosiation..
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:38 am

johnwest1985 wrote:The thing is its always guessing work but we could use a sort of formula...

- post players not purely based on physical skills ( nowitzki, aldrige ) and shooters maybe have a longer prime ?
- players beeing injured allot in there early carrear should decline earlier ? D. Rose ( kyrie is rather injury prone isnt he ? )
- and then ofcourse the number of seasons playing in the playoffs all the time effects the players.. tony parker seems effected at least .
- poing guards that develop a shooting game " later " in there career can have a later peek.. only problem is that this probably not will reflect in there numbers..
its also when does the peaking age start ? Jimmy Butler really started peaking this year already beeing 25.. he sort of really broke through rather late. Or ??

maybe some more examples ?

Marc Gasol - late peak
Aldridge- late peak
Westbrook- is almost never injured. I believe he can be superhuman for many years.. but maybe his peak still is not late but normal
Rondo- early peak age end...
Mike Conley- for me a typical player that has a slightly later peak and rather long for a point guard. He is so decent and not only based on pure physical playing
All Jefferson- great player but already looks like an old man to me even though he isnt.. should be declining by now
D Rose- Early peak age end ?? So hard to say


just guessing here.. maybe its good to like start of with the top 100 players.. and make a guessing yourself. I find players like dwight howard staying to good way to many seasons in accosiation..
Alright, thanks for the tips
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:42 am

Update: So I am now finished implementing slimm's tendencies to all the players and the jersey number changes.

Will give more update later on. :D
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby johnwest1985 on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:18 am

wow .. thank you kevin.. i am excited. Do u use same cyberface id as meds roster??
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:27 am

johnwest1985 wrote:wow .. thank you kevin.. i am excited. Do u use same cyberface id as meds roster??
No but there's only like 85 new cyberfaces anyways.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - Done All 30 Teams!

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:28 am

So I ran some tests just for fun with slimm's tendencies and albys + mine's ratings and I got some pretty fucking legit results. I'll post the images later
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:40 am

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Harden won MVP over LeBron (2nd) and Curry (3rd) Notable mentions: Durant (4th)

Parker won Rookie of the Year, defeating the overhyped canadian, Andrew Wiggins (2nd)

Butler wins the MIP over Jordan Hill (2nd) and Draymond Green (4th)

Thomas wins the 6th man of the Year award over Vasquez

Davis wins the DPOY over Howard, Jordan, and CP3

Tim won the COTY so he might just get fired next season like George Karl. :lol:
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:50 am

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Only teams who didn't belong there were the Nuggets, OKC, Pistons, Pacers, Pistons, Bobcats, and Jazz.

Western Conference Semis and Finals are almost accurate. Whilst the Eastern Conference Semis are a little bit off because of the Pistons :shock: .

But at least we got the Finals right. Warriors win 4-2.

Game 1: 128-120 GSW won POTG: Klay Thompson (23 pts, 8 rebs, 4 asts, 9-16 FG)
Game 2: 92-95 Cavs won POTG: LeBron James (31 pts, 9 rebs, 7 asts,)
Game 3: 101-89 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (18 pts, 10 asts, 4 rebs, 0-6 3PT)
Game 4: 90-99 Cavs won POTG: JR Smith (28 pts, 2 rebs, 0 ast, 6-9 3PT, 7 TOs)
Game 5: 111-113 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (34 pts, 5 rebs, 11 asts, 3-8 3PT)
Game 6: 87-92 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (25 pts, 4 rebs, 8 asts, 3-4 3PT)
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby Alpha_ on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:54 am

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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby GritterAndGrinder on Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:31 am

Kevin wrote:[ Image ]

Only teams who didn't belong there were the Nuggets, OKC, Pistons, Pacers, Pistons, Bobcats, and Jazz.

Western Conference Semis and Finals are almost accurate. Whilst the Eastern Conference Semis are a little bit off because of the Pistons :shock: .

But at least we got the Finals right. Warriors win 4-2.

Game 1: 128-120 GSW won POTG: Klay Thompson (23 pts, 8 rebs, 4 asts, 9-16 FG)
Game 2: 92-95 Cavs won POTG: LeBron James (31 pts, 9 rebs, 7 asts,)
Game 3: 101-89 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (18 pts, 10 asts, 4 rebs, 0-6 3PT)
Game 4: 90-99 Cavs won POTG: JR Smith (28 pts, 2 rebs, 0 ast, 6-9 3PT, 7 TOs)
Game 5: 111-113 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (34 pts, 5 rebs, 11 asts, 3-8 3PT)
Game 6: 87-92 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (25 pts, 4 rebs, 8 asts, 3-4 3PT)


i was almost excited, but being a grizzlies fan, i have to look at this as a bad sign.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:27 pm

King Mellow wrote:lol

ACCEPT DEFEAT. :lol:
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:29 pm

GritterAndGrinder wrote:
Kevin wrote:[ Image ]

Only teams who didn't belong there were the Nuggets, OKC, Pistons, Pacers, Pistons, Bobcats, and Jazz.

Western Conference Semis and Finals are almost accurate. Whilst the Eastern Conference Semis are a little bit off because of the Pistons :shock: .

But at least we got the Finals right. Warriors win 4-2.

Game 1: 128-120 GSW won POTG: Klay Thompson (23 pts, 8 rebs, 4 asts, 9-16 FG)
Game 2: 92-95 Cavs won POTG: LeBron James (31 pts, 9 rebs, 7 asts,)
Game 3: 101-89 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (18 pts, 10 asts, 4 rebs, 0-6 3PT)
Game 4: 90-99 Cavs won POTG: JR Smith (28 pts, 2 rebs, 0 ast, 6-9 3PT, 7 TOs)
Game 5: 111-113 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (34 pts, 5 rebs, 11 asts, 3-8 3PT)
Game 6: 87-92 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (25 pts, 4 rebs, 8 asts, 3-4 3PT)


i was almost excited, but being a grizzlies fan, i have to look at this as a bad sign.

Chill, Jeff Green tore his ACL and they somehow traded Lee and Carter for a pick and Terrence Ross.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby GritterAndGrinder on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:44 pm

Kevin wrote:
GritterAndGrinder wrote:
Kevin wrote:[ Image ]

Only teams who didn't belong there were the Nuggets, OKC, Pistons, Pacers, Pistons, Bobcats, and Jazz.

Western Conference Semis and Finals are almost accurate. Whilst the Eastern Conference Semis are a little bit off because of the Pistons :shock: .

But at least we got the Finals right. Warriors win 4-2.

Game 1: 128-120 GSW won POTG: Klay Thompson (23 pts, 8 rebs, 4 asts, 9-16 FG)
Game 2: 92-95 Cavs won POTG: LeBron James (31 pts, 9 rebs, 7 asts,)
Game 3: 101-89 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (18 pts, 10 asts, 4 rebs, 0-6 3PT)
Game 4: 90-99 Cavs won POTG: JR Smith (28 pts, 2 rebs, 0 ast, 6-9 3PT, 7 TOs)
Game 5: 111-113 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (34 pts, 5 rebs, 11 asts, 3-8 3PT)
Game 6: 87-92 GSW won POTG: Stephen Curry (25 pts, 4 rebs, 8 asts, 3-4 3PT)


i was almost excited, but being a grizzlies fan, i have to look at this as a bad sign.

Chill, Jeff Green tore his ACL and they somehow traded Lee and Carter for a pick and Terrence Ross.


hahahahaha. im dieing. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby Alpha_ on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:51 pm

Kevin wrote:
King Mellow wrote:lol

ACCEPT DEFEAT. :lol:

lol #dubwagoner :lol: Peace bro!
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:55 pm

King Mellow wrote:
Kevin wrote:
King Mellow wrote:lol

ACCEPT DEFEAT. :lol:

lol #dubwagoner :lol: Peace bro!

Well if I had to pick between Cleveland and Golden State, I'd rather go with the Warriors cause fuck you and fuck LeBron. All Hail Curry Mamba. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster [Help Needed] - I think I just predicted the Finals

Postby Kevin on Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:06 pm

Update:
I've added some missing legends to the roster.

They are:
Lew Alcindor (Young Kareem) to the 70's Bucks
Charles Barkley to the 84-85 76ers.
Nick Van Exel to the 97-98 Lakers
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to the 86-87 Lakers
Julius Erving to the 84-85 76ers
Julius Erving to the 76-77 76ers.

6 of them has their own cyberface, ratings, tendencies, and portrait IDs.
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