VINCE WANTS OUT!

by **Amphatoast** on Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:16 pm

FanOfAll wrote:FWIW, RealGM reported that they did call the Raptors FO and they denied such a claim...

Well, ESPN is still reporting he wants out DESPERATELY in a article written today.

by **twolvezfanfoever** on Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:06 pm

He just needs to suck it up and just play

by **j.23** on Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:30 am

would a vince carter for paul pierce trade work?

by **Jackal** on Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:59 am

Even if it would, would Carter want to be with Danny Angie?

He's got problems with Babcock, maybe he senses bad GM's or something.

by **FanOfAll** on Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:09 pm

j.23 wrote:would a vince carter for paul pierce trade work?

Nope, the Raptors have to throw in a mid-ranged salary to make it work...

by **fgrep15** on Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:19 pm

Pierce makes mroe than Vince?
He's not on the block anyways, and I don't like how Pierce's PPG, FG%, and 3PT% have all declined the last three years.

by **emadhn15** on Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:34 pm

isnt it weird that VC never commented on this.. :roll:

We know that Shaq wants out of LA because he did say that in public; but for VC's case it might all be another bullshit by the reporters..

by **FanOfAll** on Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:10 am

fgrep15 wrote:Pierce makes mroe than Vince?
He's not on the block anyways, and I don't like how Pierce's PPG, FG%, and 3PT% have all declined the last three years.

I was positive, so much that if I had to, I would've bet my life on it, but I was wrong. So many rumors, I'm probably getting PP confused with another superstar/all-star 2. Probably Ray Allen.

PP's supporting cast has also gone down the drain, was well as the coaching. Losing Walker was a huge blow, considering the leader he was, and also the fact that it really screwed over Obie ball. The full value for the deal is only coming back this year with LaFrentz healthy, and even more leadership was lost when Ainge traded away Battie and Williams. Davis was the most consistent Celtic player in the last few months, but he doesn't fit into Obie ball...but Ainge did deny that PP is moving, but hey, that's what he did with Walker...

by **raptors6thman** on Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:59 pm

rumor has it that mrs. vince carter doesnt want to reside in toronto. as a toronto native i am shocked to hear his demand for a trade. i know babcock wont give in. vc will get traded only for the right deal that benefits toronto. i dont want to see what happened to the grizzlies happen to my raptors. losing this team would crush the city and its canadian fans. if i was gm i would trade vc straight up for either pierce or ray allen. for the amount of money we pay vc he should get off his high horse and play ball. enough of these pussy injuries and excuses for his lack of heart and leadership on the court. compare him to AI and vc is a wimp! i miss tmac and christie more now than ever. when we had charles oakley he got in vc's face and had him in check.. momma carter didnt like that which resulted in the oak tree getting cut down.. had he or any other bully vet on the team vc would be more of a warrior and a momma's boy...

vc for pierce or allen... id even say vc for richardson and dampier.. expect to see vc outta canada come all star break :cry:

thus begins the countdown for toronto departure from the nba (if we dont smarten up we'll lose the team in less than 5 years)

by **Repole** on Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:38 am

I see no reason for danny to trade pierce for vc....unless he has the same goal as last year, to get in the lottery...

by **Cameron** on Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:45 pm

I gotta say, I wished I went to this NBA Talk forum more often...

The Raptors are my team. Believe me, I've paid so much attention to the shit going on behind the scenes. The man responsible for all this is named Richard Peddie... he is a dickwad. Knows nothing about basketball and pisses Carter off..... alrighty then.

Another thing, these rumours are all speculation. Since Carter never is getting interviewed since he is on his honeymoon, the media has to invent stuff. Word is Carter likes the coach, likes the GM, likes T.O. (he has 2 condominiums there), and just doesn't like Peddie.

Furthermore, I don't know if y'all have seen the report about the three team trade involving the Knicks and Mavs. It's bullshit. I've seen the salaries worked out in this proposed trade, and it is impossible.

So guys, I'm pretty sure Babcock is saying Carter you are playing here unless I get equal value back for you. So, it will be another season of whiny overpaid Vince without any intensity and dunking like the old days, wearing a stupid headband over his ears and looking like a total Dork as he gets closelined by a like 5 foot tall coach named Van Gundy who looks like Ron Jeremy and didn't even flinch when a 6'7" tall black man ran into him.

by **j.23** on Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:57 pm

So, it will be another season of whiny overpaid Vince without any intensity and dunking like the old days, wearing a stupid headband over his ears and looking like a total Dork as he gets closelined by a like 5 foot tall coach named Van Gundy who looks like Ron Jeremy and didn't even flinch when a 6'7" tall black man ran into him.

couldn't have said it better man, haha

so whats the deal with this richard peddie guy?

by **Cameron** on Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:11 pm

Heh yeah, I like Vince's scoring but you can tell I hate most other things about him :lol:

Richard Peddie is, I'm not sure of his position, but he is a high up dude in the Raptors like head of operations or something. But I believe he is part of the MLSE because he also runs the Leafs. Basically, he is a tool for the teacher's pension fund in Ontario - money from the Raptors goes into the pension fund of teachers. So he knows nothing of basketball - and is one of the main reason why the Raptors have sucked so much and are like one big disfunctional family. He is also the reason why Vince has supposedly requested a trade - according to Vince's friends, Peddie told him a) He would consult him before a GM and coach were hired and b) That he would persue Canadian's Nash and Magloire (who Vince wanted to play for the Raptors). Turns out he never told Vince anything about the hirings, and never even made an attempt to even look at Nash or Magloire.

Hopefully, Peddie is either fired or his contract is allowed to run out.

by **raptors6thman** on Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:51 pm

i agree with you bro.. peddie is fcuking up things for us.. dispite all the additions (or lack of) to toronto basketball this will still (and always) be a hockey town. with that said i dont see MLSE (mapleleaf sports ent.) investing lots of money into the raptors. with the upcoming nhl lockout hopefully management will be able to spend more on the raptors.

also to add to that magloire/nash coming to canada. it would never happen. toronto has no money to make those big moves. thats also a reason why we drafted araujo. in the past we wasted it on dumb signings.. remember yogi? we were 2 picks away from magloire being ours at the draft. had he been available, oh man i cant even imagine the type of team we would be. it would have been nice to even hear media quotes that toronto was courting magloire or nash. i think that would have shown vince our gm's commitment to improvment.

a healthy team is key here. thats my only expectation this season. if vc and company can avoid the injury bug we'll be fine. question to those who follow the raptors.. what do you think will happen to marshall? with this new rookie will probably pstart c and bosh at his natural pf, where will they fit him?

i predict this as our starting 5.. aruajo, bosh, carter, jalen, alston

by **Cameron** on Sat Jul 17, 2004 5:56 am

I don't think Arujo is going to start. Babcock mentioned that at first they were planning to give him about 10 min/game. Although, he is playing quite well in the summer league. I think he may be what the raps need. I saw a video of him, he fought off this one guy, ripped the ball from another guy who was taking it from him, and went for the shot and a third guy grabbed him and pulled him down... (he took about 5 steps lol) he got so mad he swung his arm and accidentally punched the guy in the face and I think he knocked him out. I wish I still had the link...

I wouldn't mind Moiso starting if he could play the way he did for those few games where he was averaging double doubles and playing amazingly :shock:

However, I've heard the Raps are going after Willis, and now I've heard they're going after my man Keon Clark.

I think either Marshall or Rose is going to come off the bench. I think Marshall would make a great bench player. On the other hand, it might be better to have Rose sub in for either Carter or Rafer, and have Marshall start at SF and see how he performs there.

by **j.23** on Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:49 am

as soon as rose comes off the bench, the raps are gonna hear another demand for a trade . . .

by **Cameron** on Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:51 am

Yeah I don't think Jalen would go for that. I have a feeling he probably will be starting though.

Oh btw my bad about Keon, it was just a joke :oops:

And guess what, MoPete has just signed an offer sheet with the Hornets! You think the Raptors will match?

by **j.23** on Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:10 pm

really depends how much the hornets were willing to sign mo-pete for.. personally i wouldn't really care, i'd try to find someone else to sign, i used to like mo pete but he's just too inconsistent.. he is a good defender though

by **FanOfAll** on Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:33 pm

j.23 wrote:really depends how much the hornets were willing to sign mo-pete for.. personally i wouldn't really care, i'd try to find someone else to sign, i used to like mo pete but he's just too inconsistent.. he is a good defender though

3 years, 15 million :shock:

. They do desparately need a 2/3 backup, which they get, but that's a lot of money...I think Babcock will let MoPete walk.

by **raptors6thman** on Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:27 am

if mo-pete could play as deadly as i play him in my live dynasty then i would resign him for sure. peterson is an up and down player. he wont start with the hornets but im sure he will come mid season. i saw toronto trades jalen that way we can get 1-2 quality players for him. with his salary gone we can perhaps match the hornets offer. i just hope peterson doesnt add the the novel of successful ex raptors. his best season was his rookie season i think (when we went to game 7 vs philly) we need some of that and then some if he is to return as a raptors.

getting off topic, does anyone know where i can find an original tmac/christie/damon dino's jersey? like any stores in toronto that might have them? i tried downtown but to no luck.

by **fgrep15** on Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:56 am

raptors6thman wrote:if mo-pete could play as deadly as i play him in my live dynasty then i would resign him for sure. peterson is an up and down player. he wont start with the hornets but im sure he will come mid season. i saw toronto trades jalen that way we can get 1-2 quality players for him. with his salary gone we can perhaps match the hornets offer. i just hope peterson doesnt add the the novel of successful ex raptors. his best season was his rookie season i think (when we went to game 7 vs philly) we need some of that and then some if he is to return as a raptors.

getting off topic, does anyone know where i can find an original tmac/christie/damon dino's jersey? like any stores in toronto that might have them? i tried downtown but to no luck.

Sorry not happening, and Mo-Pete could likely start with the uncertainty of Jamal Mashburn, it's even possible for him to take aging David Wesely's spot in the starting lineup if Mash is back, and they can make DW a 6th man.

by **Cameron** on Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:08 pm

Guess what? Now Vince has said he wants to be traded somewhere in the East, preferably the Knicks (for Lenny Wilkins who he doesn't like

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I say lets ship him as far away as possible!!!! The Clippers look like a possibility...

by **Amphatoast** on Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:58 pm

hmmm
Marbury+Carter= Knicks tickets sold out all year!!
I hope the Knicks do get him somehow( better than Walker..)...hopefully shipping out Allan Houston, Tim Thomas, or Shandon Anderson...getting rid of 1 of them 3 would be really good.

I have a question about all these Carter rumors...why hasn't he spoken up and said he wants to be traded like Shaq & McGrady did? Everything is a source close to him but not him himself! Speak up VC!!!!

by **fgrep15** on Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:49 pm

Camazing wrote:Guess what? Now Vince has said he wants to be traded somewhere in the East, preferably the Knicks (for Lenny Wilkins who he doesn't like )

I say lets ship him as far away as possible!!!! The Clippers look like a possibility...

I don't think that one is true, doesn't even make sense that he'd want to got to the Knicks, and all these "unnamed sources" bother me.

by **The Game** on Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:43 pm

if ever the knicks get carter... will they fire lenny wilkens? i sure hope they do...

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