***NEW UPDATE***: Ult. ModPack UBRV63+(44+ Complete Seasons-1970-Pres) 11/1/14

[MJALLDAY]

Hawk I'm almost done with coach corrections and please don't forget to change the Bulls court in the 85, 86 and 87 mods to this one (s551).

[Brent72]

Here's another interesting little job someone may enjoy doing...

If anyone wants to go through and post on here what shoes Jordan should be wearing throughout all the mods I would be more than happy to make those changes from the 85-99 mods... just be detailed in how you explain it in your post... EX:

1984-1985 Roster:
Shoe Brand: Nike
Shoe Style: Air Zoom 3000
Custom Colors: Off
Home Color: White
Trim 1 color: Red
Trim 2 Color: Black
etc etc

If we could get all the correct Jordan shoes in those season mods that would be AWESOME!!!

[HAWK23]

Hawk I'm almost done with coach corrections and please don't forget to change the Bulls court in the 85, 86 and 87 mods to this one (s551).

Thanks! (BTW I just changed them)

[MJALLDAY]

Here goes some Jordan shoe history. I apologize in advance for the size of this post. In his rookie year (84-85) He wore three different shoes.
He started the preseason in the banned black/red Air Jordan 1 and also wore them in the 85 dunk contest (can be made with NikeID)

Stopped wearing the banned shoes after numerous threats and fines from Stern and wore the Nike "Air Ships" for his pro debut and half his rookie season. (In CHNxiaoju's Shoes for the greatest mod)

Then finally the legal Air Jordan 1 white/red/black were released. Worn in the the 85 all star game and second half of his rookie year, Also worn in the 85-86 season.

So in 85-86 Air Jordan 1
in 86-87 Air Jordan 2
in 87-88 Air Jordan 3
in 88-89 Air Jordan 4
in 89-90 Air Jordan 5
in 90-91 Air Jordan 6
in 91-92 Air Jordan 7
in 92-93 Air Jordan 8
in 94-95 Air Jordan 10 & 11 (Wore Conchords & Space Jams in playoffs)
in 95-96 Air Jordan 11
in 96-97 Air Jordan 12
in 97-98 Air Jordan 13 & 14 (Wore 14's in games 2 and 6 of the NBA Finals)

[MJALLDAY]

Sorry I didn't go into detail over the colors, I glanced over that part. It's really optional because the Bulls always wore white shoes during the regular season and starting in 1989 wore black shoes only in the playoffs.

[ChrisBrodbeck]

Hey guys! Whats been going on?!?!

Its nice to see everybody still involved and improving the UBR! I read threw the last couple of pages...


JERSEYS NOT SHOWING UP:

I believe the reason why some of the jerseys wont show up, is because they neither have a custom GID AND, more importantly, the GID which is associated with these jerseys is not present in the jersey tab of the roster file into which they are imported.

A couple of months ago, Hawk said that there was no room left in the file to add new/more jerseys. Thats also the reason, I didn't mention that when you import an ABA Expansion team and start a season/asso with that team, the jerseys wont show up either.

So if there's a way to add more GID's and jerseys to the main UBR rosterfile, I believe that would fix the problem, as long as the tmm and ros GID are the same!

Just to be clear, I do not expect Hawk or anybody else to add ALL the ABA jerseys AND the tmm jerseys to the UBR roster, this may be just the solution for the Expansion tmm teams, who's jerseys are not allready in the UBR roster!!!


ABA EXPANSION:

Since I'll have some downtime in the next 2-3 weeks, I'm willing to update the ABA Expansion to V2.

I had the impression that beyond the nlsc, the ABA was not well received, until I was recently contacted by 2 of the admins of remembertheaba.com, probably the most famous website everything ABA, saying that they heard about it, and saw some videos on the interwebs!

So what I would like to do from my end is:

- recheck roster for errors
- check players with "hornheads"
- update/fix the Allstar teams (East/West)
- update the tmm files
- add jerseys if requested
- add teams if requested

as far as artfiles go:

COURTS:

I made a big folder full of info for francis a couple of months back, but he wrote me that due to school and exams, he would't be able to make the ABA courts after all.
so if anybody wants to take a look and maybe add a court or 2, or maybe ALL OF THEM here's the research folder, including many colorcodes based off of pictures and/or the jerseys I made for the mod

ABA COURTS RESEARCH FOLDER

CYBERFACES:

There are still SOOOO many players left without a face, I'll link the list one last time
Any of these cyberfaces would be greatly appreciated!

CYBERFACE LIST FOR ABA EXPANSION SEE LIST ON FIRST POST


MISSING JERSEYS FOR UBR:

I believe I made those early 80's Nets jerseys for IronMike's mod, the pacer jerseys I can do as well! Just send me the links to pics of them and I'll take care of it. The San Diego Clippers jerseys are mine as well by the way!

87 Nets jerseys

[HAWK23]

Alright guys... I just uploaded a silent update to Part 4... almost every single season mod was updated.... more accurate accessories were added to nearly every mod including more accurate sock length for players as you go from the late 90's to the mid 90's to the early 90's to the late 80's to the mid 80's. I also did a MASSIVE overhaul/update to the 1992 mod with all correct transactions and lineups + rotations. I added all of Fabri79's tweaks and ended up creating ~20 players from scratch that were not included. I also sprinkled these players across the other mods that needed them. I also added accurate free agents to the 1992 Mod. Additionally, I went across all season mods and assigned Michael Jordan his correct shoes (thanks to MJALLDAY for the description help).

For specific silent updates see below:




Here is a list of future updates for V36:

Multiple Mods:
*Fixed some courts in the 80's mods that were showing as black (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Assigned accurate shoes to Michael Jordan throughout ALL season mods (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Fix an issue with the Sophomore logo coming up incorrectly
*Add San Diego Clippers logo
*Add San Diego Clippers jerseys
*Add 1980's New Jersey Nets jerseys

Ultimate Base Roster:
*Fixed 1948 Bullets court(SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Fixed Miami Heat's White Hot Jersey (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Assigned the new 1980's Spurs Jerseys to the 1982-1983 Spurs (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Added Len Bias to "FA Legends / Role Players" list (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Edit to give more accurate faces: Bill Zopf, John Vallely, Jim Webb
*Edit the Brooklyn Nets coaching changes

2011 Mod:
*None at this time

2007 Mod:
*None at this time

2006 Mod:
*None at this time

2000 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1998 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Tweak player attributes to better reflect the 1999-2000 Season

1999 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1998 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Add some accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool

1998 Mod:
*Assigned some better cyberfaces and look-alike cyberfaces (courtesy NickQuick) (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)

1997 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1998 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Add some accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool

1996 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1994 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Add some accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool

1995 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1994 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Assigned some better cyberfaces look-alike cyberfaces (courtesy NickQuick) (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Add MORE accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool

1994 Mod:
*None at this time

1993 Mod:
*None at this time

1992 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1993 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Fixed the Bobcats/Raptors/Grizzlies to make them as irrelevant as possible during association mode (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Added accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Added any missing players to the mod missing from teams (created some players from scratch too) (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Edited ALL rotations and starting lineups with accurate minutes (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Added Fabri79's tweaks (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Tweak player attributes to better reflect the 1991-1992 Season

1991 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1993 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Fixed the Bobcats/Raptors/Grizzlies to make them as irrelevant as possible during association mode (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Tweak player attributes to better reflect the 1990-1991 Season (I've done 10 teams so far)

1990 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1993 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)

1989 Mod:
*Tweak player attributes to better reflect the 1988-1989 Season

1988 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1989 Mod to this mod for better accuracy (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)

1987 Mod:
*Tweak player attributes to better reflect the 1986-1987 Season
*Need to add these players to the roster at some point:
Bucks: Jerome Henderson, Keith Smith
Clippers: Steffond Johnson
Knicks: Brad Wright, Stewart Granger
Sonics: Curtis Kitchen
Blazers: Ron Rowan

1986 Mod:
*Added some more accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Went through and checked rosters/transactions. I also created 4 players from scratch (Brian Martin, Ken Green, David Cooke, Derrick Rowland) that belonged in the roster. There were a few trades and signings that hadn't been done. Roster accuracy should now be 100%. (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Fixed some coaches that were headless and assigned them cyberfaces (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)

1985 Mod:
*Added some more accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Went through and checked rosters/transactions. I also created 4 players from scratch (Brian Martin, Ken Green, David Cooke, Derrick Rowland) that belonged in the roster. There were a few trades and signings that hadn't been done. (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Fixed some coaches that were headless and assigned them cyberfaces (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Need to add these players to the roster at some point:
Nets: Michael Wilson
Clippers: Dan Wilkinson
Hawks: John Garris
Pacers: Kenton Edelin, Greg Kesler
Spurs: Linton Townes
Sonics: Joe Cooper

1984 Mod:
*Added Version 1 of the 1983-1984 Roster - courtesy Reddwarf (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)

All-Time Legends Roster:
*Added Version 1 of the All-Time Legends Roster (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Added all jerseys from the Ultimate Base Roster as selectable options for teams in this roster (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Added all courts from the Ultimate Base Roster as selectable options for teams in this roster (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Added players from the "Legend / Role Players" list in the Ultimate Base Roster to the "Free Agents" list (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Fixed the D-League teams so it shows correct/generic players (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Expanded the rosters from 15 to 16-19 players for all teams (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)
*Enabled 10 custom teams to be loaded (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)

ABA Mod:
*None at this time

Expansion Teams:
*None at this point

Draft Classes:
*Added an updated version of the 1992 Draft - courtesy Sylvian (SILENT UPDATE TO PART 4)

[HAWK23]

Hey guys! Whats been going on?!?!

Its nice to see everybody still involved and improving the UBR! I read threw the last couple of pages...
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Chris! Thanks for these Nets jerseys! I think you sold yourself short with the ABA mod... I've seen (and received) a lot of good feedback from it. I have one person, Don Cropper, looking to make a 60's/70's League Mod using a bunch of teams from the ABA mod. By the way he shared with me that the association/season play crashes, however he has taken some steps to try and fix it. I'll forward you any findings he comes across.

I believe I could add the ABA jersey slots to the jerseys tab - if you could get me an excel sheet of exactly the rows to include I could see what I can do.


I think between all of us we could do some great work within the next 2-3 weeks. Francis recently messaged me to let me know he has the next couple weeks free to help. Nick and RayHoops are working on some stuff and Reddwarf and myself have the next week or so on Winter Break for our school districts. Nuhmete is also still around helping out here and there. So we have the band back together again for a solid couple of weeks. Let's work together and knock some stuff out!

Good to see you back!

[HAWK23]

I'll be working at giving the 1995-1996 Mod an overhaul today... I started this morning and wow there is a lot of work to do. Skoadam made this roster, so i fear that his others (96-97 and 99-2000) will also need a lot of work. His transactions and rosters are way off... he made some trades and signins during that season but didn't make others... not really sure what he was doing, but when I'm done with it, it will be back up to par!

[HAWK23]

Alright I did receive the 1983-1984 Mod by Reddwarf... I'll have to look to see if any tweaks need to be made before I release V1... I also have done a ton of work on the 1996 Mod (over 50 roster moves had to be made) and that doesn't include me still needing to create the following players by scratch:


76ers:
Add Trevor Ruffin
Add Derrick Alston

Celtics:
Add Junior Burrough
Add Todd Mundt
Add Thomas Hamilton

Grizzlies:
Add Lawrence Moten
Add Chris King
Add Cuonzo Martin

Hawks:
Add Donnie Boyce

Heat:
Add Sasha Danilovic

Kings:
Add Clint McDaniel

Knicks:
Add Ron Grandison

Lakers:
Frankie King

Nets:
Add Robert Werdann

Nuggets:
Add Rastko Cvetkovic

Pistons:
Add Lou Roe

Raptors:
Add Vincenzo Esposito
Add Martin Lewis
Add Michael McDonald
Add Dwayne Whitfield

Rockets:
Add Melvin Booker

Spurs:
Add Dell Demps

Suns:
Add Terrence Rencher
Add John Coker

Sonics:
Sherrell Ford

Timberwolves:
Add Marques Bragg
Add Jerome Allen

Blazers:
Add Randolph Childress

Warriors:
Add Robert Churchwell

Bullets:
Add Cedric Lewis


After I create these players and assign them to correct teams I'll have set lineups/rotations and that mod will be completely re-vamped!

[MJALLDAY]

Hawk here go the coaching corrections, most of them were right, the 84-85 mod had no mistakes and the 85-86 mod had only one.

85-86 mod
KC Jones should be the coach of the East All Stars

86-87 mod
KC Jones should be the coach of the East All Stars
Pat Riley should be the coach of the West All Stars
Mattg Goukas of the 76ers has Doug Collins Portrait
Dave Wohl should be the coach of the Nets
Phil Johnson should be the coach of the Kings
Don Chaney should be the coach of the Clippers.

[HAWK23]

Thanks MJ - I'll make sure to make those changes!

[HAWK23]

Alright guys -

I've tweaked and released a PERFECT 1983-1984 Mod Version 1 courtesy of Reddwarf. I updated Part 4:

1983/1984 Mod


Enjoy!


*Note I will add a San Diego Clippers Logo/Jerseys and other relevant art files to this mod when I do UBR V36.

[HAWK23]

V36 Released!


Download V36 Ultimate Base Roster V36 [250+ Total Teams] + Accurate Rosters/Rotations [ALL Transactions 1/1/13]



All NBA Champions since the 1970's PLUS many more teams [257 total teams]! ALL teams now work in season/association mode!


Major Updates in V36:
• Added the 1983-1984 Season Mod & All-Time Legends Mod
• Includes a "UBRV36 Association.ros" roster file which strips out all of the retro teams for those of you who just want the updated roster with flawless Season/Franchise mode. Don't worry the normal Ultimate Base Roster V36 with all the retros is still there too.
• All players on current teams have real portraits
• Added 11 new cyberfaces for players throughout the Season Mods
• 4 new retro courts added / 1 new set of retro jerseys added (SD Clippers)
• Added 5 new logos applicable to some teams in the UBR and Season Mods
• Major revamping of the 1991-1992 Season Mod & 1995-1996 Season Mod was completed (100% accurate rosters/rotations)
• Applied accurate accessories to all of the 90's Season Mods
• Applied accurate coaching tweaks to all Season Mods (100% accurate)
• Applied accurate shoes for Michael Jordan across all Season Mods
• Tweaked ALL Season Mods for updates. We now have 20 full season mods, the ABA mod, the All-Legends mod, and the UBR all compatible without affecting regular NBA2K12 files and they all work in season/association.
• Current NBA Teams Rosters/Rotations up to date as of Tuesday, January 1st, 2013.






Specific additions/modifications to V36:

Multiple Mods:
*Fixed some courts in the 80's mods that were showing as black
*Assigned accurate shoes to Michael Jordan throughout ALL season mods
*Fixed an issue with the Sophomore logo coming up incorrectly
*Added 1983-1984 San Diego Clippers logo
*Added San Diego Clippers jerseys
*I also added the late 70's/early 80's San Diego Clippers logo just in case for later use
*Added 1976-1988 Golden State Warriors logo (80's Mods)
*Added 1950-1968 Boston Celtics logo (UBR)
*Added 1960-1976 Los Angeles Lakers logo (UBR)
*Checked and fixed any 1980's mods that was not using the correct 80's Pacers logo
*I will be sprinkling the following cyberfaces across all mods including The Ultimate Base Roster:
1994 Oliver Miller cyberface - courtesy Retro
1995 Oliver Miller cyberface - courtesy Retro
1995 Pippen cyberface - courtesy Retro
Popeye Jones cyberface - courtesy Retro
Young Derek Harper cyberface - courtesy Retro
Raptors Charles Oakley cyberface - courtesy Retro
Wizards bald Charles Oakley cyberface - courtesy Retro
Bulls bald James Edwards cyberface - courtesy Retro
Ira Newble cyberface - courtesy Retro
LaRon Profit cyberface - courtesy Retro
Dion Glover cyberface - courtesy Retro

Ultimate Base Roster:
*Updated rosters and transactions as of 1/1/2013
*Fixed 1948 Bullets court
*Fixed Miami Heat's White Hot Jersey
*Assigned the new 1980's Spurs Jerseys to the 1982-1983 Spurs
*Added Len Bias to "FA Legends / Role Players" list
*Edited the appearances for Bill Zopf, John Vallely, and Jim Webb for better accuracy
*Assigned P.J. Carlisimo as the Brooklyn Nets coach
*Assigned 1963-1977 Philadelphia 76ers logo to the 66-67 Sixers & 76-77 Sixers
*Assigned 1960-1976 Los Angeles Lakers logo to the 70-71 Lakers & 71-72 Lakers
*Assigned 1950-1968 Boston Celtics logo to the 59-60 Celtics & 64-65 Celtics

2006 Mod:
*Added an accurate 2006 All-Star Game Court - courtesy Retro

2000 Mod:
*Added an accurate 2000 All-Star Game Court - courtesy Retro
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1998 Mod to this mod for better accuracy

1999 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1998 Mod to this mod for better accuracy

1998 Mod:
*Assigned some better cyberfaces and look-alike cyberfaces (courtesy NickQuick)

1997 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1998 Mod to this mod for better accuracy

1996 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1994 Mod to this mod for better accuracy
*Added some accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool
*Added more accurate year-specific Houston Rockets Court - courtesy Retro
*Added more accurate year-specific Atlanta Hawks Court - courtesy Retro
*Checked over all rosters/lineups/rotations/transactions to ensure accuracy and add any missing players (around 90 edits were made)

1995 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1994 Mod to this mod for better accuracy
*Assigned some better cyberfaces look-alike cyberfaces (courtesy NickQuick)

1992 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1993 Mod to this mod for better accuracy
*Fixed the Bobcats/Raptors/Grizzlies to make them as irrelevant as possible during association mode
*Added accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool
*Added any missing players to the mod missing from teams (created some players from scratch too)
*Edited ALL rotations and starting lineups with accurate minutes
*Added Fabri79's tweaks

1991 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1993 Mod to this mod for better accuracy
*Fixed the Bobcats/Raptors/Grizzlies to make them as irrelevant as possible during association mode

1990 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1993 Mod to this mod for better accuracy

1988 Mod:
*Copied over accurate accessories from the 1989 Mod to this mod for better accuracy
*Assigned the 76-88 Golden State Warriors logo to the Warriors

1987 Mod:
*Made 6 coaching tweaks to complete this mod's coaching changes (100% accurate)
*Assigned the 76-88 Golden State Warriors logo to the Warriors
*Need to add these players to the roster at some point:
Bucks: Jerome Henderson, Keith Smith
Clippers: Steffond Johnson
Knicks: Brad Wright, Stewart Granger
Sonics: Curtis Kitchen
Blazers: Ron Rowan

1986 Mod:
*Added some more accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool
*Went through and checked rosters/transactions. I also created 4 players from scratch (Brian Martin, Ken Green, David Cooke, Derrick Rowland) that belonged in the roster. There were a few trades and signings that hadn't been done. Roster accuracy should now be 100%.
*Fixed some coaches that were headless and assigned them cyberfaces
*Made 1 coaching change to complete this mod's coaching changes (100% accurate)
*Assigned correct 80's Nets Logo and jerseys
*Assigned the 76-88 Golden State Warriors logo to the Warriors

1985 Mod:
*Added some more accurate Free Agents to the FA Pool
*Went through and checked rosters/transactions. I also created 4 players from scratch (Brian Martin, Ken Green, David Cooke, Derrick Rowland) that belonged in the roster. There were a few trades and signings that hadn't been done.
*Fixed some coaches that were headless and assigned them cyberfaces
*Assigned correct 80's Nets Logo and jerseys
*Assigned the 76-88 Golden State Warriors logo to the Warriors
*Need to add these players to the roster at some point:
Clippers: Dan Wilkinson
FA: John Garris
Pacers: Kenton Edelin, Greg Kesler
Spurs: Linton Townes
Sonics: Joe Cooper

1984 Mod:
*Added Version 1 of the 1983-1984 Roster
*Assigned correct 80's Nets Logo
*Fixed Bucks in-game logo / jerseys
*Assigned the Clippers their San Diego logo
*Assigned the 76-88 Golden State Warriors logo to the Warriors
*Assigned Clippers their San Diego uniforms

All-Time Legends Roster:
*Added Version 1 of the All-Time Legends Roster
*Added all jerseys from the Ultimate Base Roster as selectable options for teams in this roster
*Added all courts from the Ultimate Base Roster as selectable options for teams in this roster
*Added players from the "Legend / Role Players" list in the Ultimate Base Roster to the "Free Agents" list
*Fixed the D-League teams so it shows correct/generic players
*Expanded the rosters from 15 to 16-19 players for all teams
*Enabled 10 custom teams to be loaded

Draft Classes:
*Added an updated version of the 1992 Draft - courtesy Sylvian

[King Mellow]

Nice

[HAWK23]

Alright guys... check out this site (it's kind of a 1 page sumary of Chris Creamer's Logo site):
http://www.nba.com/magic/cohen_feature_081611.html


Tonight I created and added a late 70's/early80's SD Clippers logo AND their 1983-1984 SD Clippers logo:



Now... I'm thinking about adding these logos while I'm at it, as I'd be able to supplement them in the Ultimate Base Roster:


(this logo would cover Celtics teams from 1950-1968)



(this logo would cover Lakers teams from 1960-1976)



(this logo would cover Sixers teams from 1963-1977 [I was a little surprised we didn't have this one already])
*EDIT - JUST FOUND OUT WE HAVE THIS LOGO ALREADY... IT'S LOGO594



After viewing that link I posted at the top... does anyone else feel I should add any other logos? I think it's pretty cool, because if you view that link you'll notice we've added NEARLY all of them... let me know your thoughts... for now I've added the 2 SD clippers logos and will probably end up doing the Boston, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles one above as well.

Thoughts?

[fixor]

Hi hawk
In 84 mod, in game the bucks logo is the present logo

[suirad]

please add the warriors 75-88 logo and kings 75 to 85 logo

[HAWK23]

please add the warriors 75-88 logo and kings 75 to 85 logo

I will go ahead and make the Warriors one, but the difference between the Kings logo you mentioned and the one we have is such a subtle change of color that I feel like it works okay as is.

[Uncle Drew]

Off topic, just saw former NBA player Jerome Whitehead was found dead. RIP.

[HAWK23]

Off topic, just saw former NBA player Jerome Whitehead was found dead. RIP.

RIP - he was a nice little player

(p.S. - love your forum name/pic)

[NIB]

Always great to have the logos and the art stuff completed... Nice to see you back Chris, we need you.

I'll be taking a two week vacation of the forum, and hope to come back with full strenks at my teams when come back.
That God bless you all and a happy new year!

Take care,

[fixor]

Hi Hawk
the pacers coach (84 mod) have no head and white hands

[HAWK23]

Fixor - I believe I fixed this in a silent update to Part 4 - please re-download Part 4 and check to see if it indeed is - thanks!

[HAWK23]

Hi hawk
In 84 mod, in game the bucks logo is the present logo

Will do - thanks!