3 Team Trade

[Andrew]

On the subject of the Sixers' lack of guards, they've now signed Kenny Satterfield, so at least they have a second PG on the roster.

[MC Hao]

talk about Posey's FG%.... u want to know why he is shooting at such a pathetic percentage? simple..... when u are a 2nd option in a very bad team, u ought to get lots of double/ triple team which make it harder for u to get ur shot off.... thus the shooting percentage goes down.....

Come on, now! It's the Denver Nuggets! None of them gets double or triple (lol , I can't believe you said that) team! They simply have trouble scoring. They once scored 3 points in the first quarter, 3 POINTS! And Posey was not the 2nd option, he was the 1st option on offense.

look at Posey first season, though not good, he is capable of shooting above 40% which is what most guards % are at......

OK...first season...42.9%...second season...41.2%...third season...37.6%...this season...37.3%. What do those stats tell you? James Posey is a good shooter? I don't see it.

[Glyyde]

Come on, now! It's the Denver Nuggets! None of them gets double or triple (lol , I can't believe you said that) team! They simply have trouble scoring. They once scored 3 points in the first quarter, 3 POINTS! And Posey was not the 2nd option, he was the 1st option on offense.

OK...first season...42.9%...second season...41.2%...third season...37.6%...this season...37.3%. What do those stats tell you? James Posey is a good shooter? I don't see it.

I dun watch NBA game that often....no chance to actually.... even though he dun get double/triple team, he is not the kind of players that is capable of creating his own shots.... that's for sure..... will that lead to low FG%?

For one, I neva say he is a good shooter, I am just saying that he is not as bad as u think he is..... a player that is capable of shooting 80+% from the line will neva be a lousy shooter..... they just need opens look......

[MC Hao]

he is not the kind of players that is capable of creating his own shots.... that's for sure.....

OK then, back to what I was trying to say, Posey is not a threat, and you just backed me up with your opinion that he can't even create his own shots.

a player that is capable of shooting 80+% from the line will neva be a lousy shooter.....

Well, J-Will (from Memphis) shoots over 96% from the line, is he a good shooter? No, I think not. Is he a lousy shooter? Well, base on his low FG% and poor shot selection, I say he is.

[TheBob]

Well, J-Will (from Memphis) shoots over 96% from the line.

That is a terrible example. Williams has only shot 29 free throws so far this season and has yet to make 80% of them over the course of an entire season. I believe Glyyde was refering to players who constantly shoot over 80% for their careers not players who make a bunch of free throws a few games into the season. Williams doesn't even qualify as a league leader in free throw percentage due to his lack of attempts.

[Glyyde]

did I ever mention that he is a big threat in all my post? I neva say he is a big threat ever..... I neva disagree with u that he is not a threat, but I am just saying that he is not as bad a shooter as u say he is..... that's all I said......

Jwill is a career 78% FT shooter..... not to say Posey is that much better at 81%..... what I am saying is u wun be a bad shooter if u are capable of shooting FT at that percentage......

Jwill FG% is low, of course its low, u just mentioned why is it low.... poor shot selection.... u dun call players with poor shot selection a bad shooter.... if they can't even drain open shots, then u can call them bad shooters......

shooters like Allan Houston who is considered one of the best pure shooter has a career FG% of 45%, compare to the pathetic shooter James posey who is shooting 40% (who has to create his own shots while in Denver and has poor shot selection).....

well, all I meant to say from my first post in this thread is just to say that if Posey has an open shot like in his rookie season, he can be a decent shooter at 43%..... if he is capable of getting open looks if the rockets can get him open looks, he probably can shoot at around that percentage again..... I am just assuming he can do so by looking at what he use to do last time......

peace

[Rens]

I still think there's some idiots on this forum voting for Houston getting the best of this trade... don't you people consider what a team gives up when evaluating a trade?

[MC Hao]

well, all I meant to say from my first post in this thread is just to say that if Posey has an open shot like in his rookie season, he can be a decent shooter at 43%.....

Well, if 43% is your standards for the word decent then I can't argue with you.

if they can't even drain open shots, then u can call them bad shooters......

Posey did just that in a couple of those Nuggets games I saw on ESPN/TNT, I guess you didn't know that since you don't watch their games or any other NBA games like you said earlier.

shooters like Allan Houston who is considered one of the best pure shooter has a career FG% of 45%, compare to the pathetic shooter James posey who is shooting 40% (who has to create his own shots while in Denver and has poor shot selection).....

OK, let me get this straight, Allen Houston doesn't have to create his own shots? So what are you gonna say next? That a 49+% FG shooter (this season anyway) like Bobby Jackson is getting all the open shots he wants? And he doesn't have to create his own shots, he just hits?

Of course, when a player is wide open he hits more shots, even I can hit 50% of my 3-pointers when I am wide open. But what it really counts is when the opponents are playing defense on you and you still hit your shots, that makes you a good shooter. Sure, Posey can hit all his shots during practice, wide open, but when it comes to game-time, he can't hit anything under pressure, that's pretty bad. And he's just as bad as I say he is.

OK, this news is just in but I don't quite get it:

The league office covertly apologized (by e-mail) to 26 teams for authorizing last week's 4-way trade linking Houston (James Posey), Philly (Kenny Thomas) and Denver (picks and fringe personnel). As it turns out, Art Long, signed Sept 30 by the 76ers, was ineligible to be traded (anywhere, much less to the Nuggets) until Dec. 30. According to the rules, free agents signed during the off-season can't be dealt until Dec. 15, or for three months, whichever comes last.

So is the trade invalid or...

[Glyyde]

for one, I never vote that Houston get the better of this trade.... it just very well depends on who fits which team better.....

KT is a good player, no doubt about that.... too bad he doesn't really fits in with the Rockets team.... plus the Rockets are having a logjam at the PF spot, so its either KT, Griffin, or Taylor has to go.... and it seems KT is the odd man out......

Philly might be getting a better return in this trade if u just consider the player traded..... Houston will loss a good rebounder and scorer, but Posey is able to give them what they want at the 3 spot--- defense. Houston has Glen Rice which can score at the 3, though he can't play defense, Houston can just choose who to use depending on the opposing 3.

back to the Posey shooting thing.... I believe a player shooting around 40-45% is considered as decent shooter, 45-50% is called good shooter... 50% and above, that is an extremely good shooter for sure......

once again, did I ever say Allan Houston dun need to create his own shots? I am just saying as good a shooter as Allan are, he is shooting at 45%..... Bobby Jackson is a really good player, he is not on the same par as Posey...

u seems to misunderstood all my post..... Posey is at best, a role player, which is just what the Houston needs now with Francis, Ming, Mobley commanding the ball on offense.... those 3 demands double team and it will of course leave someone open, and hopefully those open players can hit the open shots..... check this line : Houston dun need Posey to be an offensive threat, he just need to be able to drain open shots created from his teamates

btw, I neva watch Nuggets in action b4 so I can't really argue with u on Posey's shooting.... he might be just as bad as u say..... but his first year do looks decent to me..... on another hand, I watched the Sonics game yesterday, heck, Brent Barry miss open shots!!!! does that means he sucks? I saw him miss quite a few.......

[MC Hao]

on another hand, I watched the Sonics game yesterday, heck, Brent Barry miss open shots!!!! does that means he sucks? I saw him miss quite a few.......

He took only 4 shots and missed all of them, but that only happens occasionally. Posey does it all the time, ever since last season, but again, you don't the Nuggets so you don't know.

check this line : Houston dun need Posey to be an offensive threat,

And check this line: I never said Houston needs him to be an offensive threat, I was simply saying he is not a threat.

he just need to be able to drain open shots created from his teamates

Like I said before, he can't do it.

.... he might be just as bad as u say.....

Thank god you are finally accepting the truth.

I believe a player shooting around 40-45% is considered as decent shooter, 45-50% is called good shooter... 50% and above, that is an extremely good shooter for sure......

u seems to misunderstood all my post.....

Sure I did, my logic is quite different than yours, I always think decent is better than good, too bad I don't think the same as you (thank god I don't).

[Rens]

decent is better than good?

[Clinton]

Apparently

[Glyyde]

sad things is that there are ppl who can't accept what other ppl thinks.... everyone got their rights to voice out what they think...... too bad some ppl would just think their way and refuse to let other ppl voice their opinions.....

at least I do accept what ppl say here, too bad some ppl here just wun accept and seems to reply with offensive post..... "thank god for me, I dun think like them"

[MC Hao]

sad things is that there are ppl who can't accept what other ppl thinks....

Yeah, look who's talking.

at least I do accept what ppl say here,

No, you don't, otherwise you wouldn't keep arguing with me.

too bad some ppl here just wun accept and seems to reply with offensive post..... "thank god for me, I dun think like them"

Hey! Look at my avatar, it's there for a purpose, you dumbass. If you think this is too offensive for you, why don't you go cry for your mama?

I didn't mean to offend you in anyway, I was expressing my opinions against yours, there's nothing wrong with that. And I had backed my opinions up with facts while you backed yours up with "I think, I think, uhh I think...", which made your opinions weak and I didn't want to accept. Yeah, Hitler thought the Jews should die, do I accept that thought? NO, because it was not fair to kill the Jews just because he didn't like them. Same applies here, I won't accept what you say just because you think it's right.

[Rens]

[quote="Llamaj Mim]

too bad some ppl here just wun accept and seems to reply with offensive post..... "thank god for me, I dun think like them"

Hey! Look at my avatar, it's there for a purpose, you dumbass. If you think this is too offensive for you, why don't you go cry for your mama?[/quote]
Actually, there are board rules which cannot be avoided by using some avatar

[Glyyde]

season over.....
posey improvement from Denver to Houston

FG% 37% to 44%
3P% 27% to 33%

can Posey shoot? go figure.....

[mp3]

i dont know what the situation was with Posey resigning with Denver, but Denver lost out big time ! it will be interesting to see where he will sign this summer, maybe he will do a McDyess and resign with Denver.