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Postby Amphatoast on Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:04 am

what do you think the clippers will do with there pick? They already have Elton Brand and Chris Wilcox at the power forward and the draft is looking like Howard and Okafor being picked 1 and 2 and they both power fowards..
I have a feeling that might ship the pick+ some players for a big name guy out on the market..like McGrady?
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Postby GloveGuy on Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:28 am

I wouldn't be surprised if they take Livingston or even Harris. I'd be surprised if they take Deng, since it would be more logical to get a point guard.

I'd get Harris, who I feel is the best PG in the draft. Livingston, even at 6'8" can't even bench 135. An NBA player should atleast be able to bench his own weight.

EDIT: I assumed they had the third pick. My fault. Yeah, they'll probably take Howard. Maybe they'll trade it, depending on how versatile he is. We've all heard about his self-proclaimed "versatility" and how he's been able to play multiple positions. Well let's just see whether he really can or not.
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Postby The Big Racist on Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:36 am

I see them drafting Dwight Howard and then making a trade for a PG.Maybe a package deal with Melvin Ely?
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Postby fgrep15 on Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:38 am

Harris only weighed in at 170 lbs which was a little dissapoiting.

The Clippers aren't stupid, they'll take Dwight Howard and look for trade oppurtunities, Howard is being sought after more than Okafor is even, and not taking him would just be stupid.

I see then trading the #2 pick (Dwight Howard) to the Hawks for Jason Terry and the #6 pick (likely Livngston)

Devin Harris will not and should not go that high especially after the infamous workout he had with Jtim young. Harris will not go higher than the 7th pick and really he looks like a lock at 8-10th pick or lower in the draft.
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Postby Amphatoast on Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:20 am

ahh yes trade with Atlanta....they will receive there hometown boy too kind of like Cleveland got there hometown boy :)
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Postby Colin on Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:00 pm

Livingston can't bench 135? That's just terrible. I can bench 110, and I'm 125, 5'7'', 15 years old. There's a lot of people in my grade (10% of all guys) that can bench more than that.
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Postby fgrep15 on Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:33 pm

Yea Livingston is a weak guy, it was funny for the while that I weighed about the same as him, 176 lbs, and he's 6'7 and I'm 5'10.5", what a small guy.
I could bench 135 lbs in grade 10, and I wasn't even this big then :lol:, now I can bench much much more than that, Livingston is a sad case in terms of strength.
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Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:12 pm

the terry trade seems like the flavor of the month deal but i don't think it's going to happen. the clips are in position to big players in free agency this offseason and a lottery pick AND terry's contract would take a sizeable chunk out of the cap space they have available to throw at a quality FA say like manu or crawford. terry doesn't even fill the team's glaring need for a natural PG or at least a player who can handle the rock and be a playmaker

imo deng makes sense with the 2nd pick for the clips. deng would play SF and maggette would shift back to his natural position, SG. in all likelihood, they'll let "Q" walk. or they could roll the dice and go with livingston. a 6'8 natural PG with a 7ft wingspan just don't come along that often

i don't trust the clipper brass to find a good deal if they were to draft howard
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Postby fgrep15 on Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:25 pm

Common, Livingston will be playing the Point, and Terry will be moved to SG, Livingston will have problems against SG's, but with further weight gain he'll be able to handle it well, on defense Terry will guard the PG's.
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Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:44 pm

while that idea does make sense, even though it would take livingston's body years to develop a nba body, there's no guarantee that livingston will still be there at 6.

in addition, you must factor in that charlotte's expansion status makes them a big player in this draft (if okafor and howard go 1&2, the same could be said for chicago, who want to move a bad contract and could draft their SF if they moved a few spots down). it's a strong possibility that teams have identified livingston as their guy and will trade up to charlotte's spot to nab him at 4
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Postby fgrep15 on Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:34 pm

Yea, Livingston's stock has gone up, and Chalotte is greatly considering him again, so it's very likely, but Charlotte could give the Clippers Livingston and a future second round pick for Dwight?
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Postby Mikki on Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:41 pm

Shaun Livingston would be good for the Clipps.

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Postby Riot on Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:57 pm

Yeah, I think the Clippers take Livingston. I don't know if that means trading down or taking him at #2. But I see Livingston going to LAC.
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Postby Nick on Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:20 pm

I think Ben Gordon is a better pick for Clippers, he's more of a quick fix as he will have a bigger impact in his rookie season than the very raw Shaun "Can't bench my own weight" Livingston.

If Atlanta selects Ben Gordon and Clippers choose Dwight, I can definetly see a trade happening in this situation.
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Postby Riot on Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:21 pm

Maybe but the Clippers are known for taking players with hype vs. impact.
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Postby fgrep15 on Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:29 am

Nick wrote:I think Ben Gordon is a better pick for Clippers, he's more of a quick fix as he will have a bigger impact in his rookie season than the very raw Shaun "Can't bench my own weight" Livingston.

If Atlanta selects Ben Gordon and Clippers choose Dwight, I can definetly see a trade happening in this situation.


No he wouldn't be, the Clippers don't need immediate impact as much as they need a real PG, Ben Gordon is a combo guard, and his PG skills are still questionable.
At the #2 pick it's unreasonable not to take Dwight Howard, the only question now is what they'll trade Dwight for, not wheter they'll pick him.
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Postby air gordon on Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:12 am

Charlotte could give the Clippers Livingston and a future second round pick for Dwight?

i'm not so sure. between bickerstaff's eccentricity and the clips draft history, it's difficult to figure what those 2 teams will do. i've even read some reports of clips being interested in big Pavel.

in the end i'd like to see the clips get livingston[/quote]
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Postby fgrep15 on Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:15 am

My big hope is that the Clippers don't draft Howard to keep him, if you look at the least few years they've always drafted big men (and Q-Rich)

2003- Kaman
2002- Wilcox and Ely
2001-Tyson Chandler for Brand
2000- Daruis Miles and Q-Rich
1999-Lamar Odom
1998- Michael Olowokandi and Brian Skinner

The new thing going around is the #2 to Atlanta for the #6 and #17, then Orlando takes Okafor, and Clippers take Howard.
Then whoever is availble between Gordon and Livingston at #6 the Hawks will take, and I'm guessing a Swingman with the #17?






I deleted my other post and move it here since this is the same topic:


One juicy draft rumor involves the Magic, who hold the No. 1 pick. It goes something like this: The Clippers trade their No.2 pick for the Hawks' No. 6 and 17 picks, putting Atlanta in position to take Atlanta phenom Dwight Howard... Atlanta then must deliver the Clippers the player they want and persuade Orlando to not take Howard. To do that, the Hawks add a sweetener to the deal (future pick, salary dump) and the Magic take Emeka Okafor.


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Postby Nick on Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:30 am

fgrep15 wrote:1998- Michael Olowokandi and Brian Skinner

fgrep15 wrote:The Clippers aren't stupid

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Postby fgrep15 on Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:26 pm

That was in 1998, their last year od stupidity, after that they got Odom, ripped the Bulls with Brand for Chandler, Miles and Q, Wilcox and Ely, and Kaman.
They still got a lot of big men though.
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Postby Amphatoast on Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:33 pm

bring the clips to the east...we need more big men there lol
now introducing your Tampa Bay Clippers lol
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Postby Riot on Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:41 pm

take em the west dont want em!
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Postby Amphatoast on Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:44 pm

im sure they will reach the playoffs in the east:)
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Postby Riot on Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:05 pm

reach? They'd have homecourt
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Postby fgrep15 on Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:46 pm

Haha I know lol
I remember when they used to say Brand was only getting his numbers because he was in the East :roll:
Then he moved to the West and did the exact same thing, ignorant fools, Brand would dominate, baring no injuries which has been a huge problem the last two years, the Clippers will get the 4th seed in the East.
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