FINALS MVP

by **Steve04** on Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:47 pm

If you do not want words put in your mouth, then please refrain from doing the same. I see faults in Kobe's game, the same as I see faults in any other player, but my critical side doesn't come out as much because the Kobe bashers are out in such abundance here. You guys point out his every flaw so it's much harder to defend him than criticize. :wink:

I hardly make him look like he's God btw, he may be my favorite player, as Shaq is yours, but that just makes our biases very obvious doesn't it?

by **Charlie Martel** on Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:13 pm

Psycho Jackal wrote:It just annoys me no one sees any fault in Bryant's game.

Hey, I do! I notice he forces shots a bit too much these playoffs and his field goal percentages show that. But what do I know? I'm probably just another "Kobe hater".

by . on Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:09 pm

Hey, Im a Kobe fan and I discuss alot with you on msn on that subject and I do tell you that he should do this instead of that. He shouldnt shoot that much, Prince is taller then him, has longer arms and legs which makes it even harder. Kobe is a good shooter, but a better driver.

by **Boyk** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:00 am

I wish kobe would drive more.
hes got a good outside shot yes, but man, he is great driving to the basket.
He can either go in himself, or he creates for teammates.
please kobe, drive to the hoop more.

about the game, he was great defensiveley, i mean he even did a better job than so-called DPOY ronny artest.
I swear he had more than 2 blocks though, im sure i counted at least 4.
Shaq was dominant as always, Billups was excellent and Tayshaun Prince
played like a vet.

by **Jackal** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:27 am

I see where you're coming from Gamewiz, but these are pretty much the real fans that actually see flaws, Sit, Kobe4MVP, Gamewiz and Laddas...

Suddenly hundred some laker fans have popped up praising Kobe as God, that's what annoys me. :wink:

by **Micchy_boy** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:52 pm

after two games, it will be a tossed up with Kobe,shaq, billups and rip.

2 great game by shaq
1 good game by kobe and 1great game.
2 great game for bill-ups
1 good game by rip.

by **Alcoholic** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:56 pm

Everybody seems to be forgetting someone...

THE MAILMAN!!!!!! Breakout game in game 3, 4, and 5!!!!

by **Amphatoast** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:01 pm

...and GP if he wants a ring

by **point-guard** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:18 pm

i wonder why the -censored- u guys wanna argue about who is going to be the mvp..ITS WHO U THINK....come on..everyone has diff views,perception....so just post what u want man..come on..no point argueing

by **point-guard** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:19 pm

i wonder why the -censored- u guys wanna argue about who is going to be the mvp..ITS WHO U THINK....come on..everyone has diff views,perception....so just post what u want man..come on..no point argueing

by **point-guard** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:19 pm

i wonder why the -censored- u guys wanna argue about who is going to be the mvp..ITS WHO U THINK....come on..everyone has diff views,perception....so just post what u want man..come on..no point argueing

by **Old School Fool** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:04 pm

why the -censored-

WHY THE FUCK! :shock:

FUCK!!!!!!

Anyways :lol:

After Game 2...it's Kobe...Game over :O

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:27 pm

I wonder if the Finals MVP would be awarded to a Laker even if they lost. After all, the first Finals MVP trophy was awarded to a member of the losing team (Jerry West) so it wouldn't be without precedent. The main men for the Lakers are also bigger names than the main men for the Pistons, and Shaq has the best individual numbers so far.

(Disclaimer: I mean no disrespect to the Lakers - I'm not "hating". I simply don't see a Piston getting the MVP trophy if the Lakers win, and as I said Shaq has the most impressive individual numbers so far. It's probably a far-fetched suggestion, but it would be interesting if it happened - I don't think it has since West won despite the Celtics taking the championship.)

by **Jackal** on Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:10 pm

Andrew wrote:(Disclaimer: I mean no disrespect to the Lakers - I'm not "hating".

I still want Shaq to win the MVP trophy, not that I would mind Kobe getting after watching game 2. Thus if he can keep playing that way, kudos. Just as long as they win every upcoming game the way they won last nights game.

by **Ben-le-ouf** on Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:21 am

Andrew wrote:I wonder if the Finals MVP would be awarded to a Laker even if they lost. After all, the first Finals MVP trophy was awarded to a member of the losing team (Jerry West) so it wouldn't be without precedent. The main men for the Lakers are also bigger names than the main men for the Pistons, and Shaq has the best individual numbers so far.

(Disclaimer: I mean no disrespect to the Lakers - I'm not "hating". I simply don't see a Piston getting the MVP trophy if the Lakers win, and as I said Shaq has the most impressive individual numbers so far. It's probably a far-fetched suggestion, but it would be interesting if it happened - I don't think it has since West won despite the Celtics taking the championship.)

I agree with you Andrew.
Detroit's success is due so much to collective effort that it would be hard to give the award to one Piston. Hamilton? Sheed? Big Ben? Billups ? Impossible to choose only one of them. And if you look at the stats, it's true only Kobe or Shaq can get the trophy.
But for this to happen, the Pistons must win and the matchup must be very tight...
I don't really think the Lakers will lose, but I think it will be tight.

( When the Lakers lost the finals but Jerry West won the trophy, how long was the series? 7 games? )

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:57 pm

lonesomecowboy33 wrote:( When the Lakers lost the finals but Jerry West won the trophy, how long was the series? 7 games? )

Yes, seven games; the 1969 NBA Finals (the final title for Russell's Celtics).

by **Fresh8** on Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:03 pm

If the Pistons do win in seven.... although i doubt it is very possible...'ahem' - Shaq and Kobe should be co-MVP's just so that the Pistons feel even more cut!

by **Ben-le-ouf** on Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:59 am

Sit wrote:If the Pistons do win in seven.... although i doubt it is very possible...'ahem' - Shaq and Kobe should be co-MVP's just so that the Pistons feel even more cut!

I think it would be more terrible for Shaq and Kobe than the pistons.
If it happens, then it'l be great for nba because it will prove that basket-ball is a team sport!

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:12 pm

Apparently Jerry West wasn't too thrilled at becoming the first Finals MVP, as his team had just lost in the NBA Finals for the sixth time in eight years. If the Pistons prevail and Shaq or Kobe win the award, I predict it would pretty bittersweet for them, and that they might feel just as unhappy as the Pistons; after all, it wouldn't mean quite as much without the championship.

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:25 pm

Apparently, Billups will get the Finals MVP because the Pistons are pissed at the Lakers and I really think they going to win the series.

by **Matt** on Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:56 pm

i'm sticking to Billups for Finals MVP if Pistons win with Hamilton possibly second because the media will vote on previous series

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:58 pm

If the Pistons win and Rip has a couple more outings similar to Game 3, he could very well be named the MVP.

by **Charlie Martel** on Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:02 pm

Dominant performance by Kobe tonight: 44 minutes, 4 of 13, 5 assists, a block+steal, 4 turnovers, and 11 points.

And I agree, if Rip keeps this up for the rest of the series and the Pistons win he'll get the MVP.

by **Matt** on Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:09 pm

well i think 20ppg is achievable but scoring games of 30 will be tough. Overall he's contributing well, with good defense rebounding and ability to pass the ball

by **Fresh8** on Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:53 pm

Rip is good... he'll win MVP if Pistons win... I'll root for him only because he was a fomer Wizard!

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