I think I'll just shoot myself

[Hank]

Damn. That series was ours
It was over. The Lakers were history. Then Kobe goes MJ on us, and Fisher makes the luckiest shot ever, and we disappear in Game 6.

I was already drinking the champaigne after we went up 2-0! Then we lose 4 f-ing straight games in a row. Damn.

And all the LA fans on this site are jumping around like they just won the championship (oh, wait, for all intents and purposes, they did. Damn.) They're making me sick. Kobe's starting to make me really sick.

Pop made the right call by not guarding the inbounds passer. I'll take that attempt by Fisher 10 times out of 10, instead of Kobe getting it and duplicating his Portland shot.

Damn.

I think I cried myself to sleep after games 5 and 6. But I don't clearly remember because I tried to drown my sorrows away with alcohol. Damn Lakers. Geez, I'm mad. That's why it took so long for me to actually post
something.

Man, this year was our year to tie the Lakers at 3-3 in the post MJ era. And now they're gonna make it 4-2. (And I can't convince myself that it's only a game).

See you guys next year, and Go Kings/Wolves/Eastern Conference Champion.

P.S. What's up Pavel, how ya doing?

[.]

Well, if Phil wouldnt have get rid of the Triangle offense earlier, and start defending Tony Parker better, then I think this series would be closed 4 to 1.

And all the LA fans on this site are jumping around like they just won the championship (oh, wait, for all intents and purposes, they did. Damn.) They're making me sick. Kobe's starting to make me really sick.

Well, it doesnt happen everyday that a team who is down 0-2 against the current NBA champions, all of the sudden wins 4 in a row, also....all the people thought the Lakers would loose so thats why most of us got so excited

I was already drinking the champaigne after we went up 2-0! Then we lose 4 f-ing straight games in a row. Damn.

Thats the beauty of the playoffs, you never know what you might expect, sometimes its in your favor, sometimes its not.

Pop made the right call by not guarding the inbounds passer. I'll take that attempt by Fisher 10 times out of 10, instead of Kobe getting it and duplicating his Portland shot.

As a Kobe fan, its a honor that he was double teamed to tell you the truth, its shows that they know that Kobe has done this before, and there is a big chance he would do this again. I love it

[Hank]

Well, it doesnt happen everyday that a team who is down 0-2 against the current NBA champions, all of the sudden wins 4 in a row, also....all the people thought the Lakers would loose so thats why most of us got so excited

sorry, I don't hate all Laker fans. Just the ones who are shoving it down every Spurs fans' face. (And perhaps I would be shoving it down your face if we won, too. But that didn't happen.)

[Gripni]

You're lucky I don't know any Spurs fans in my school, or else I would have got going.

[Jackal]

Well, I speak for myself and Kobe4MVP on this one:

We've been here for awhile, we've had our own disputes over Shaq/Kobe, but as Laker fans, we've always stuck to our team and defended them whenever they were being bashed + we critisized them when that needed to be done.

There are other Laker fans, but I think myself and Seb are the most outspoken fans. We post alot about them and most important games, we give our own thoughts on the games. Sure, it doesnt mean that the others arent fans, but you know those bandwagonners..always a few around.

Anywho, about throwing it in everyone's faces, well that's bound to happen due to some of the comments made on this forum by certain members. Not all of the members do it, but a few do. Like Genocide, "Lakers will suck and fall". Do you see an argument here? No, it's just a comment based on his immense dislike of the Lakers. It's not a problem with me or Seb. But after such comments, you would expect us to gloat, wouldnt you?

I'm glad you said you would do it too had the Spurs won, it's that fan spirit in every fan, yet Laker fans are made out to be terrible. *sigh* Generalisation sucks.

Oh well, perhaps next year Hank, best of luck mate, to you and to the Spurs.

[Micchy_boy]

Bro thats exactly what we felt last year when your Spurs eliminate our team lakers. But as you said there always next year. Good luck for your team but from now we. lakers fans will wait til we celebrate our 4th throphy in 5 years.

[Bang]

I remember sports analysts saying day and night, night and day.
"The Spurs are still the best team in the NBA" - Chuck
"The funny feeling is that the Spurs will come back" - Kenny Smith
"The Pistons will win the championship" - Laimbeer...ugh..that guy really gets on my nerves man - -;;
"The Spurs will win..." - Tim Legler

But there was one analyst, who, probably wanting to go to LA instead San Antonio, said:
"Lakers will come back from 2-0!"
Yes, it was Saul the magnificent.
He was the only analyst that was on our side...at least for ESPN + ABC + TNT...not talking about the local networks - -;;

And despite
1.) Having Kobe's court troubles(??)
2.) Having GP play bad the first 2 games
3.) Having the triangle offense destroyed.
4.) Having Tony Parker kill us game 1 and 2.
5.) Having Tim Duncan hitting that weird shot in game 5...
6.) Being down 2-0
7.) Being down by 1 point with 0.4 seconds left in game 5..

WE WON!!!!!!!!!
WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What are the chances of defying all these hardships and challenges?
Did I mention the Spurs also happened to be defending champions? The ones that snatched our chances of a 4-peat?

Yes...I love this game!
Because ANYTHING...even making a shot in 0.4 seconds..is possible.

[The Big Racist]

ooh,Hank the pervert?

[Nick]

I think it is.

We've been here for awhile

Not as long as Hank.

[Fresh8]

but you know those bandwagonners..always a few around.

So ur saying I jumped onto the Lakers bandwagon like Australia jumped onto Bush's???

Man- this sux! lol

[Jackal]

I think it is.

We've been here for awhile

Not as long as Hank.

I didnt mean Hank, I meant as laker fans, we've been around. During the course of the year you see Laker fans pop up and go away as soon as they start losing. I didnt mean I was here before Hank.

So ur saying I jumped onto the Lakers bandwagon like Australia jumped onto Bush's???

If you feel I was talking to you, so be it...people should know for themselves.

[Hank]

I think it is.

We've been here for awhile

Not as long as Hank.

He he, I've been around here a lot longer than you think

Good memories...(and bad ones too...coughcoughPavelcough)

P.S. It's nice to see some Laker fans being cool about it. But all the Laker fans that I personally know have been riding me for the past few days. I think I'm gonna go Anthony Peeler on their asses pretty soon.

[cklitsie]

Hey Psycho Jackal dont act like the life of a Laker fan is hard now...
youre writing that all the other guys on this forum were against you all season long but what else do you except when you got 4 future HOF's
man your team is in the conference finals and theyve got a good chance to win it all...
btw congrats on the lakers win

my team's the Knicks and this year sucked...
we lost Spree cuz of that stupid Scott Layden (if i got to choose between firing him or winning the title at the beginning of the season, i wouldve fired him - seriously)
and the Nets swept the knicks so now we didnt succeed in the playoffs but we havent got a good draft pick neither

this is just what i wanted to say... come think about it - life as a knicks fan (i know, i know Bulls, Clippers, Magic, etc. are worse, but i dont care )

[Jackal]

Lol, nothing is easier than being a Laker fan...hellow, you've got Kobe & Shaq, why would someone worry? Lol, just kidding man.

I was just venting frustration, some guys, not all, some guys just wouldnt give credit where due. They always found an area where the Lakers sucked, and rubbed our faces in it. Oh well, it's done and over with it. Bring on Sacramento.

Lol, like I said Hank, I didnt mean it that way.

Don't worry man, as long as you dont give us a hard time about the Lakers, I wont do it to you. You approached the situation with a positive attitude, which is appreciated. You just as well could have been sore (King fans listen up) and whined about how the clock was not set on game five etc, etc. They won, they won. End of discussion.

In short, I like ye man. You're attitude was positive, ofcourse mine will be too.

[cklitsie]

Bring on Sacramento.

my team's the Knicks and this year sucked...
we lost Spree

dont try to make this year worse for me

[Repole]

Bring on Sacramento.

my team's the Knicks and this year sucked...
we lost Spree

dont try to make this year worse for me

the knicks play like superstars compared to the celtics

[Jackal]

That was just because of a bad GM...well Layden wasnt specatcular.

Seriously, Walker for LaFrentz= .

I thought KG was suspended, hence I said bring on the Kings, sorry CK.

[cunnilinguist]

^^^^
you say the walker-lafrentz trade was seriously bad. what is the basis of your claim?

[Jackal]

Walker's value is higher than a LaFrentz, I think that's obvious enough.

If you cant see that, I cant help you.

[cunnilinguist]

just because i'm new here here, don't act condescending towards me.

how high is the value of a player that shoots under 40% fg's, career 65% ft's, who relies too much on his perimeter shot, and is owed $27+million over the next 2 years?

is it that much noticeably higher then getting rid of a 3yr contract in delk, receiving cap relief in the form of chris mills, receiving dallas 1st round pick, a center that would be in the top 5 in the east, and a great prospect in jiri welsch that's already paying dividends??

i would also like to point out that the celtics made the playoffs even though they are in a rebuilding stage.

regardless, claiming a trade was seriously bad for the celtics solely because they "traded for a player of less value then walker" is flat out ignornant.

[Jackal]

Ignorance is what you're showing at the moment. He's bad, but not so bad that all you get is a LaFrentz.

Condescending? Seriously, I'll just state what I said before:

If you cant see that, I cant help you.

His trade value might not be the highest of all time, but LaFrentz is all they could manage?

I'm ignorant here.

[Ben-le-ouf]

you say the walker-lafrentz trade was seriously bad. what is the basis of your claim?

Actually, the trade was bad for both teams.
The Mavs lost a decent center and were forced all this season to do stupid choices for center like Fortson, Walker or Nowitzki who are more Power Forwards or even Small forwards (for Dirk and Walker). Dallas has too many good players playing at the same position (Nowitzki, Jamison, Walker).
The Celtics's offense depends now too much of Paul Pierce. And they lost a "die-hard" player in Antoine Walker who was a good motivater for his teammates..

Walker's value is higher than a LaFrentz, I think that's obvious enough.

I think you're right, though it's hard to compare 2 players playing at a different position.

Man, this year was our year to tie the Lakers at 3-3 in the post MJ era. And now they're gonna make it 4-2. (And I can't convince myself that it's only a game).

I know many people discredit the spurs a lot and think that their first title must not be considered because 98-99 was a special season.
If the Spurs had won against the lakers (to possibly win the championship), then the Spurs would have made those comments definitely stupid and proved they have made a new dynasty...
But that won't be the case. Lakers will win and extend their dynasty!!!

im so happy and i want to sing now

Na Na Na Na
Na Na Na Na
He He Hey
GOODBYE

I'm singing with you, Mitchy Boy:
im so happy and i want to sing now
Na Na Na Na
He He Hey
GOODBYE

[cunnilinguist]

your statements lead me to believe that you don't follow much basketball unless it involves your favorite team

I'll refute your argument again. maybe this time you will give a valid response instead of the ignorant "all you get is lafrentz".

even if walker is a talented player, you're neglecting the fact that other things are factored in when making trades and that it is these very things that make it difficult to trade a player of walker's stature. in addition to what i have already mentioned about walker, he still had more baggage: poor defender and bad attitude. luckily there are teams that have GM's (i.e. billy king, mark cuban) that are willing to gamble on these type of players.

i'll repeat again that boston received a center that will be in the top 5 in the east. lafrentz was a solid 13pt/8reb/2blk player at denver before he got to dallas, where he was misused. again i'll say that boston received the versatile jiri welsch, who already is a solid, young player still realizing his potential, as well as dallas 1st round pick.

that's 2 solid role players with good attitudes and possibly a 3rd depending what they do with that draft pick.

walker has brought his baggage to dallas and so far has proven he's the 5th best player on a championship contending team. rumors have been surfacing about walker being traded again.

[Repole]

Ok lets look at it this way, from the point of view from a celts fan like myself:

Celts get:
Lafrentz: taltened player yes, but his contract is way too high and long however, locks them down, thier lucky to have gotten rid of baker or they wouldnt have the chance to sign a free agent for the next 3 years....

Jiri Welsch: My favorite player on the celts and in the league, he's a solid 3 pt shooter, defender, and passer. Not bad at driving and should do it a bit more often. I do think he'll develup into a 14 5 and 4 kind of guy and will be a very nice third option. But that won't be of use if they dont have a second option (thought to be ricky davis maybe but therees not much room for him with pierce and welsch....with 3 guys for the sf/sg position as the best 3 on the team other than lafrentz maybe, one of those guys isn't gona get the time they deserve)

First rounder: I think it's 25 or something like that, not gona get a player thats gona help you much other than a benchie that could play some tough d or maybe come in and drain a few 3's.


Celts gave:
Walker: Talented player that can do almost anything when he wants to. He can pass, score, rebound, and when he wants to play defense. how ever he was looking fora contract extension worth about 14 mill a year and that just wasnt worth it. If we didnt give it to him he woulda been outa here at the end of the year (i thought his contract was up this year but maybe its next). I dont buy this shit about being a destraction, he just isnt, he was more of a leader than pierce too.

other salary and shit thrown in on both sides like chris mills and so on.

So the conclusion:
If the celts had kept walker: They'd have banks pierce davis walker mihm, a pretty nice lineup nothing too amazing though. how ever walkers contract ends next year i believe, and now with baker gone they would have had tremendous flexibility to sign a big name free agent and put together a solid core to the team.

With the deal: Lafrentz puts a choke hold on the teams salary situation, they'll have some money to shop for players with baker gone now, but not much or enough to sign a big name guy. thier lineup will consist of banks pierce davis mihm lafrentz and the 14th pic along with jiri welsch off the bench depending on who they pick at 14, realize that had they kept walker they'd be doing better and have a worse pick which would hurt them next year. If ainge's plan was to get young and rebuild then why strange the team with raefs contract? by the time we have a chance to start really improving pierce's contract is over and we'll be back to square one. I think ainge's real plan is to rebuild for these next few years then completely blow it up. if you think he's dismantled the team now i think every1s in for a real surprise aroudn the time pierce's contract is up...