Dexter

[buzzy]

The plastic sheet scene had me cringing throughout.
I guess those many plot holes came together when they tried to finish it all up in a few episodes, how random it might be, since they didn't know if they're gonna get picked up again - as Q said.

A cliffhanger with Deb catching him or Quinn about to expose him would've been better, obviously.

Also, "If we find out who he was watching, we'll find his killer". Well, guess that plan got called off.

BTW, was it me or was that one scene where he stole that red car like right next to the crime scene with a huge ass rock, (not to mention that no one said anything that he was gone all of a sudden, from a place they actually needed a boat to get to), one of the most random scenes in Dexter history?

[Phil89]

Clearly the biggest plot hole of the season was the lack of a magician at Harrison's birthday party.
When Liddy had Dexter in the van he clearly replied 'yes to magician' when Sonya messaged Dexter about it.

[kingjames23]

at least now we know how the series will wrap up. Lumen survived. once Dexter is able to purge his need to kill, he can settle down with her... as she is the only person who can accept him for who he is/was. i think this show has 2 or 3 years left in it, and Lumen will return in the final season. could happen. they brought back lundy right? so there is a "happily ever after" storyline, and it pactically writes itself. having her leave, but obviously showing that the two of them are in love... gives the writers an out to close the series, saved for later use. brilliant.

so where do you think the story goes next year?

the final shot of season 3 showed the blood on rita's dress... foreshadowing her death in season 4...
the final shot of this season... with harrison.... makes me wonder.

[Phil89]

Are you serious? The main theme of the show is Dexter's struggle with his dark passenger.

He is not able to stop killing people. His whole life is built around his need to kill. He is unable to have a normal life.

Even in the finale it was specifically addressed.
Lumen: "I can't do it anymore. What we've been doing."
Dexter: "You don't have to."
Lumen: "But you do. Right? We both know that. It's who you are."
Dexter: "You're right, about everything you're right. We're not the same."

[kingjames23]

harry also said that dexter suprised him, in that he didnt believe it was possible for dexter to love anyone. if he had seen it earlier, he wouldnt have led dexter down the path to being a serial killer. dexter wants a normal life. he has said as much, a few times. he was willing to give up killing for rita, right before he found her dead. its a logical assumption that someday he will be free of his dark passenger... if not, he will eventually be caught... and the best ending of his story we could hope for at that point is that he becomes a hannibal lecter type, a profiler working for the fbi from the confines of a prison cell. worst case? executed. so, when the series wraps up... which direction do you think the writers will take it? nobody wants to see him fry... so its either get caught, or give it up. lumen provides an "out" for the writers in the end. if dexter can free himself of his dark passenger, there is someone out there who can accept him for what he was.... its actually quite poetic. 2 or 3 seasons from now, it just makes sense. you gotta end the show someday, and i think we are at least at the midway point... so how it all ends becomes a very real question.

[[Q]]

yeah i really don't see this series going on much longer in its current form. especially with dex & deb divorced. that's gonna be really awkward when they do scenes together as brother & sister

[Phil89]

harry also said that dexter suprised him, in that he didnt believe it was possible for dexter to love anyone. if he had seen it earlier, he wouldnt have led dexter down the path to being a serial killer. dexter wants a normal life. he has said as much, a few times. he was willing to give up killing for rita, right before he found her dead. its a logical assumption that someday he will be free of his dark passenger... if not, he will eventually be caught... and the best ending of his story we could hope for at that point is that he becomes a hannibal lecter type, a profiler working for the fbi from the confines of a prison cell. worst case? executed. so, when the series wraps up... which direction do you think the writers will take it? nobody wants to see him fry... so its either get caught, or give it up. lumen provides an "out" for the writers in the end. if dexter can free himself of his dark passenger, there is someone out there who can accept him for what he was.... its actually quite poetic. 2 or 3 seasons from now, it just makes sense. you gotta end the show someday, and i think we are at least at the midway point... so how it all ends becomes a very real question.

Of course Dexter wants a normal life. But he can't have one. That's his tragedy. Every time he tries to get close to someone something bad happens.

Rudy - Accepted him for who he is. But asked him to make an impossible choice. Dexter had to kill him to protect Debra.
Lila - Taught him to take control of his life. Ended up ruining his relationship with Rita and almost killed her kids. Dexter had to kill her to protect his family. (Even though she moved to France)
Miguel - Dexter thought he was a friend, but turned out to just be manipulating him for his own gain. Dexter had to kill him because he wasn't using Harry's code anymore.
Rita - Tried to have a family life with her and her kids. Because of Dexter's obsession with Trinity, she got caught in the crossfire of his double life and got killed.
Lumen - Helping her get revenge against the rapists somewhat helped Dexter get over the guilt he felt for Rita's death.
He thought they had a real connection, but once she got closure she lost the need to continue killing and couldn't stay with Dexter anymore.

yeah i really don't see this series going on much longer in its current form. especially with dex & deb divorced. that's gonna be really awkward when they do scenes together as brother & sister

2 years of marriage is a long time in Hollywood? Hope it doesn't affect the show too much.

[kingjames23]

i wouldnt consider Lumen leaving "something bad". if anything, her transformation gives Dexter hope. he is clearly able to feel emotions now, which is one huge step for him in the right direction. i am pretty sure they will still talk, and he will end up with her once his need to kill is finally satisfied. dexter is learning to be human more and more in each season. its clearly the path the series is going to follow. like i said, in 2 or 3 years when the series finishes up, she will be there for him. i doubt dexter will have a "love interest" on the show next season, unless lumen makes a cameo here or there. a phone call, an email. theres going to be some thread there. but at least that means the show can now focus on dexter himself for a while. rita's kids will come and go, harrison has a nanny... dex is pretty much free to do whatever. but here is the clear difference between Lumen and the rest... Lumen is still alive. Rudy, Lila, Miguel and Rita are all dead.

[[Q]]

well i wonder what quinn's role will be in the next season. obviously they will have awkward moments together but i wonder if they will become buddies because dex saved his ass. or maybe dex will tell him his secret and quinnn will be doakes for season 6 and deb will come close to finding out again and will if it's the last season but won't if they continue it.

[Phil89]

I don't think Quinn and Dexter will ever like each other that much. Dexter doesn't like Quinn at all. He just wants Deb to be happy. (As he said in the finale)

I miss Doakes.

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[Oznogrd]

finally caught up on season 5. for me it still goes 1=4>3>5>2. Was very underwhelmed.

They should've saved Doakes for a later season.

[shadowgrin]

They should've saved Doakes for a later season.

Maybe he'll appear again as a surprise, motherfucker.

[kingjames23]

"grab a crayon Psycho, and scribble this down"

i miss that funny motherfucker....

[newc]

"grab a crayon Psycho, and scribble this down"

i miss that funny motherfucker....

Yeah Doakes was awesome. He even sweared, when he died, you could see right before the explosion, that he say's "oh, motherfucka" or smth like that

[Phil89]

[J@3]

probably my favourite Dexter scene of all time

[Doobie]

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Dexter season 6 teaser. Any predictions?

[Phil89]

http://www.ugo.com/tv/dexter-season-six-direction

Fate is a cruel mistress to Michael C. Hall, or so it would seem. Or perhaps, Showtime.

Dexter's fifth season was nearly derailed by the sad news of Michael C. Hall's battle with cancer, and now TVLine has learned that leads Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter will be front and center for season six! Working around your ex is tough enough without the season focusing on your character's relationship.

Showtime boss David Nevins reveals that “There will be a microscope on the Deb/Dexter relationship this season. Over time you’re going to see that relationship evolve and change, no questions about it.” When last we saw Dexter and Deb, the pair nearly discovered each other at the scene of Jordan Chase's murder as Debra grew one step closer to uncovering her brother's murderous hobbies.

But that's not all the Showtime president had to tease for the next season, elaborating on how the new season would tonally resemble the first by "in some ways [returning] to the Dexter that you’ve seen in the early seasons. There’s a really interesting story and journey that he’s going to be on this year. There’s going to be some degree of getting back to his roots.”

And what of the season's big bad? Can we expect a return to the centralized villain formats, a la Ice Truck Killer, Skinner, or Trinity?

“It is not one big bad. There’s one interesting story that will move through the season, and it will be cast very interestingly, but it’s not exactly that one person.”

Dexter's fifth season had notably avoided the single-villain format as well, avoiding any attempt to overshadow the well-recieved performance of John Lithgow as antagonist Arthur Mitchell. But, who knows? Maybe the new roles being cast for season six will have something to do with it!

I'd like to see Deb finding out about Dexter's secret. Piecing together all the stuff with Rudy and how Dex was the 'Bay Harbour Butcher'.
I want to see how her conscience copes with knowing because on one hand it's her brother, but on the other she's also a cop.

Also, less Angel/LaGuerta, more Masuka.

[[Q]]

i hope no one hates on season 6 like they did season 5 simply because john lithgow isn't in it.

[Lamrock]

We'll hate on it because it is contrived.

[Phil89]

Just finished re-watching all 5 seasons the other day. Can't wait for season 6.

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[Phil89]

I'd like to see Deb finding out about Dexter's secret. Piecing together all the stuff with Rudy and how Dex was the 'Bay Harbour Butcher'.
I want to see how her conscience copes with knowing because on one hand it's her brother, but on the other she's also a cop.

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/d ... 6?page=0,1

'Dexter's' Jennifer Carpenter: It's Time for Deb to Figure Dex Out

The fifth season of "Dexter" belonged to Jennifer Carpenter.

Following a fourth season that brought a supporting actor win for John Lithgow and a nomination for star Michael C. Hall (Carpenter's former husband), Season 5 focused more on Carpenter's Deborah and her refusal to realize her brother is a serial killer. An Emmy nod this year would be Carpenter's first.

Carpenter carried all of last season's angst about the search for a team of men who murder women – and the vigilante duo killing the killers. She tracked down the duo – Dexter and an avenging victim (Julia Stiles), but decided to let them go without seeing their faces. Her decision narrowly prevented her, yet again, from finding out the truth about Dexter.

The decision to let the pair go, Carpenter says, felt "out of character." But she justified it by remembering that Deb had been abducted herself, and had seen video of the men's crimes.

"We all act out of character from time to time," she told TheWrap. "And grow from it, hopefully."

One thing she may not be able to justify much longer? Deb's not figuring out Dex. Carpenter told us that realization is "due" – maybe in the upcoming sixth season, which features rapper Mos Def, Colin Hanks, Edward James Olmos, and a plot involving religion.

Do you feel like your character is the moral center of the show?

That's a heavy burden I guess… but I certainly feel like she's the heart of it, and adds a lot of balance and adds a lot of insight into just how dysfunctional Dexter is, considering that they came from the same family.

She certainly holds tight to her morals. She's a cop and feels like she has a great understanding of what's right and wrong, and by honoring that she's honoring the legacy of her father, which seems to matter most to her.

Deb may be the smartest person on the show, yet she can't see what her brother is doing. Do you ever go to the writers and say, "My character is too intelligent to not figure this out?"

I have a tool that helps me justify her not knowing and it's worked for me up to this point. I feel like it's due. But I feel like because Dexter is her only connection to her past she doesn’t look too closely. And it's always the wife or the parents with the son living in the basement -- the people who were closest to the person doing the horrible things -- who are in the dark.

There are plenty of distractions going on in that [police] office to keep me focused on something else. I think she has all the pieces but she wouldn’t dare put them together.

Yet. This season I don't know if the tool's going to be enough for me anymore. But we'll see.

He's odd. He's always been odd. He comes from a really difficult situation and I've learned more about that. The fact that he and his brother were trapped in a shipping container watching their mother be killed with a chainsaw. Isn't that enough? Do I have to look at it further and come up with the fact that he's a serial killer, too? That's an excuse you could ride for a long period of time and I willingly let him ride it.

Last season Deb caught Dexter and Julia Stiles' character, Lumen, without seeing who they were, and decided to let them go. Since she released those vigilantes, is it possible she would be okay with Dexter killing people, too?

I had a really hard time justifying that moment. And I still have a hard time justifying that moment. Would I be okay with it if I found out Dexter was a serial killer? I don’t know. I'm glad it's not up to me. I feel that that decision is in the writers' capable hands and they will justify it, and it will be the hardest thing I've ever played but I look forward to doing it. Is there room for it? Certainly. My instinct today is she would put her handcuffs on him. But it changes from day to day.

If you caught him, it could have been the end of the story. When you've been that close to catching him, how much longer can the show go on?

The writer's room is operating where the best idea wins. Each of them are powerhouses of talent of their own. And what little I'm hearing is as exciting as it's ever been. … You're really getting into the guts of everybody this year.

How do you feel about your Emmy chances?

I feel like I've been really lucky in my life. Just being allowed to work. And I have learned an immense amount and I'm incredibly committed to this show and this part.

I have so many people in my life that I would love to thank publicly, but I thank them privately all the time.

[Phil89]

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