Bonzi Wells to Grizzlies

by **Amphatoast** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:00 am

the blazers just traded bonzi wells for wesley personand a 2004 #1 pick from the grizzlies.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1677331

It looks good for the grizzlies. They pick up a pretty good player and there draft pick shouldn't be that high this year since they are playing pretty good now.

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:02 am

yea i know...i love the trade west made, because i know we can straighten out bonzi and he needed to move out of the portland atmosphere anyway. in plus, person is alot older than bonzi. we are now taking it to the next level for memphis.

by **The Big Racist** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:10 am

This is kewl but sad too,I really liked Person in Memphis but is Wells getting the starting job over Posey?
*....Wells drops 50 on the Blazers...Wells drops 50 on the Blazers......Wells drops 50 on the Blazers......Wells drops 50 on the Blazers......Wells drops 50 on the Blazers......Wells drops 50 on the Blazers...* :lol:

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:23 am

the reason i didnt like person in memphis this year because he never find his shooting touch. either way he won't put up as many numbers as wells. wells may get the starting spot over posey. but it may take a while because he is just joining the team. either way our bench will be even better.

Grizzlies lineup:
PG- Williams
SG- Wells
SF- Miller
PF- Gasol
C- Wright

2nd unit:
PG- Watson
SG- Posey
SF- Battier
PF- Outlaw
C- Swift

The Posey and Wells thing may change and i think jake isnt gonna get anymore playing time for us not unless we are playing the lakers. the main people that should play are swift and wright, so i hope hubie will go with this lineup when we fully acquire wells. wells wont play tonight against the nets, but he will play friday against the wizards at the Pyramid.

by **Yessie** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:58 am

Is there an award of GM of the Year? .. cause Jerry West is proving WHY hes the man.. now all they need is to get rid of swift and we could be looking at a playoff team. this is an awesome trade for the grizz. i live in seattle and i hate portland but i like bonzi wells and now that hes been traded he will be a good 2nd option to complament pau gasol.

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:20 am

WHAT! Stromile isnt getting traded. if he is gonna get traded it will be a sign and trade maybe in the offseason. Stromile has been playing well lately, and Jake isnt gonna play in front of him for now. Stro is playing too well for West to get rid of him now.

by **Yessie** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:37 am

Thats what i heard Jake is getting more playing time then swift and hes dissapering from the grizzlies rotation cause hubie brown like how jake plays physical that what i read and it was a memphis sportswriter writing the article and it was like 2 days ago.

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:52 am

Volatile forward Bonzi Wells was traded to the Memphis Grizzlies on Wednesday for guard Wesley Person, a conditional first-round pick in the 2004 draft and $1 million

Bonzi Wells has a four year deal worth $30 million and Person is in the final year of his contract and makes $7,700,00 this season compared to Wells' $6,834,444 this year.

So Memphis gave Portland the difference in their contracts ($856,556) or $1,000,000 plus the first round pick (I would be surprised if Memphis doesn't make a playoff push) which could be a lottery pick, could end up being as high as #4 overall. If Memphis' first round pick in the draft is one of the top three picks, the Grizzlies have the option to keep the pick.
They obviously would keep the pick and send a first round pick in 2005.

Memphis could have drafted #2 over in 2003, but in 1997 now NBA Senior VP of Operations Stu Jackson then serving as Grizzlies GM called the Pistons GM Rick Sund and asked about Otis Thorpe. Sund asked for a first round pick for him, the Grizzlies agreed to a conditional first-round pick. The Grizzlies kept putting off the completion of the trade and when the final option year of the deal ran out in 2003, they had to surrender it to Detroit, the only exception was if the pick were the #1 pick overall, then Memphis could pass along their 2004 pick.

Thorpe never played for Memphis, he was traded with Chris Robinson to the Kings for Michael Smith and Bobby Hurley on 2/18/98. This series of trades led to nothing positive for the Grizzlies and they shouldn't have made the trade for Wells.

The same thing could happen again if the Grizzlies fail to make the very tough Western Conference Playoffs. They could be trading a lottery pick (top 3 protected) for the troublesome Bonzi Wells who was stripped of his co-captaincy and suspended two games earlier this season for cursing at coach Maurice Cheeks. I really find it will be impossible for him to get along with the hard-nosed Hubie Brown, whom will bench you and let you know why in no uncertain terms. I could imagine how Brown would react if Bonzi Wells decided to curse at him. In Person they had a better shot, a better person, a better leader, retain what could be a lottery pick and free-up nearly $8 million in cap space for next season.

Trading Otis Thorpe for Darko Milicic, Carmelo Anthony or Chris Bosh did not teach Memphis anything.

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:14 am

well first of all, jake was getting playing time, but the past 5 games swift has been playing...as for the pick thing, we arent gonna lose those many games with the team we have. i ex[ect for us to go to the playoffs with what we have now. Bonzi will average at least 16 or 17 ppg if he starts for the grizz. if he comes off the bench he will just add more depth. if u can see, our first 16 games were against playoff teams from last year except cavs. we are now 8-8 and hopefully we can come out with a win tonight against the nets. if we do that. then we will beat the wiz on friday at home :lol:

because they dont have arenas or stackhouse. then we will play the blazers, which will be a match between the two teams that made the trades. im expecting for us to be 10-8 by sunday.

by **Shep** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:00 pm

Bonzi Wells:
2003 - 7th best SF in the NBA
2002 - 8th best SG
2001 - 6th best SG

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:18 pm

yea i cant wait to update my rosters for my dynasty. im not gonna start my dynasty til after the trade deadline because everytime i start it, a trade happens. at least this time, im happy it was with the grizz and it was a good one.

by **Amphatoast** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:29 pm

grizzlies fans are starting to show there faces now :lol:

i never really say any grizzlie supporters before but now they all over the place, hell i support them since they a underdog team.

by **bishibashiboy** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:23 pm

**my own personal rant:**
Bleh, how can I support the Grizz after that jackass Michael Heisley moved them from Vancouver. People always think there were no bball fans in Vancouver and that everyone here is ONLY hockey crazy. Not true. Put a team worth watching on the floor that can win more than 18-20 games a year and people will go. That PR crap Heisley and his men pulled about losing way too much money in Vancouver due to lack of support is such BS. Memphis is no better and they knew that. Vancouver wasn't even at the bottom in home attendance.
**end rant**

Jerry West is the man. Need I say more? Grizz have quite a good team that should definitely be capable of competing for the 8th spot in the West.

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:33 pm

Yessie4200 wrote:Is there an award of GM of the Year? .. cause Jerry West is proving WHY hes the man.. now all they need is to get rid of swift and we could be looking at a playoff team. this is an awesome trade for the grizz. i live in seattle and i hate portland but i like bonzi wells and now that hes been traded he will be a good 2nd option to complament pau gasol.

What?

Jerry West signed James Posey, traded Brevin Knight to the Phoenix Suns along with Robert Archibald and Cezary Trybanski in exchange for Bo Outlaw and Jake Tsakalidis and now has moved $1 million, a potential lottery pick and $7.7 million in cap space for next year with Wesley Person for Bonzi Wells? He also landed Troy Bell and Dahntey Jones (neither has played an NBA game.) for Marcus Banks and Kendrick Perkins.

Did you happen to see that the Lakers (Mitch Kupchak) added Karl Malone and Gary Payton?

How about Dallas (Don Nelson) trading:
Avery Johnson ($5.4 million)
Evan Eschmeyer (4 years - $13 million)
Popeye Jones ($1.1 million)
Nick Van Exel (2 years - $22.7 million)
Antoine Ridaudeau (waived)
Chris Mills ($6.6 million)
Jiri Welsch (4 years - $8 million)
Raef LaFrentz (6 years $42.7 million)
2004 1st Round Pick

for
Antoine Walker (2 years - 28.1 million)
Tony Delk (3 years - $9.45 million)
Antawn Jamison ( 5 years - $69.2 million)
Danny Fortson (4 years - $25.5 million)

And didn't Minnesota (Kevin McHale) add Sam Cassell, Latrell Sprewell and Ervin Johnson, surrending only Joe Smith, Marc Jackson, Anthony Peeler and Terrell Brandon (2 years - $23.1 million which Atlanta will pay and have against his their cap even though Brandon retired)

Sorry I don't see what Jerry West has done to even consider him a GM of the Year?

What's wrong with Stromile Swift? He has been playing very well for Memphis.

by **jaywill** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:25 pm

Amphatoast wrote:the blazers just traded bonzi wells for wesley personand a 2004 #1 pick from the grizzlies.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1677331

It looks good for the grizzlies. They pick up a pretty good player and there draft pick shouldn't be that high this year since they are playing pretty good now.

I don't like this trade at all. They made this trade bec. they are loaded at the off guard position.

P.S. Otis Thorpe played for the then Vancouver Grizzlies in the 97-98 season. He was later traded to Sacramento. Then the kings traded him to the Wizards for Webber. He was not able to play for the Wizards.

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:58 pm

P.S. Otis Thorpe played for the then Vancouver Grizzlies in the 97-98 season. He was later traded to Sacramento. Then the kings traded him to the Wizards for Webber. He was not able to play for the Wizards.

My mistake about him not playing for the Griz, but this doesn't really make up for not being able to select Carmelo Anthony or Chris Bosh.

by **The Big Racist** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 5:24 pm

Paul Pierce The Truth wrote:Troy Bell and Dahntey Jones (neither has played an NBA game.)

Didn't Dahntay play against the Sonics and Lakers?
and this trade is balanced cause Perkins hasn't played a single game also just like Bell hasn't.

by **Yessie** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:31 pm

Jerry West IS still the MAN.. no gm is perfect.

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:46 pm

Martin wrote:
Paul Pierce The Truth wrote:Troy Bell and Dahntey Jones (neither has played an NBA game.)

Didn't Dahntay play against the Sonics and Lakers?
and this trade is balanced cause Perkins hasn't played a single game also just like Bell hasn't.

It's balanced? (my bad about Jones)

Although Marcus Banks has not played like Jason Kidd, he has played 17.2 minutes per game and gives Boston a decent and quick back-up point guard, something Memphis could use right now, something Troy Bell is not giving them, for whatever reason, he is not.

I have nothing against Bell or Jones (3 points thus far), I am just saying that Memphis' Jerry West doesn't get a point here for his arguement for GM of the Year. Something he is from being.

Jerry West should get credit for turning the team into a contender, but that was over a couple of seasons, which the award doesn't show.

Kendrick Perkins is 19 and still very raw, not 23 like Jones and Bell, talk to me in 4 years when Perkins is 23.

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:07 am

Amphatoast wrote:grizzlies fans are starting to show there faces now
i never really say any grizzlie supporters before but now they all over the place, hell i support them since they a underdog team.

i have always supported them every since they moved to memphis. i became a ball boy this year, and my dad bought season tickets the past 2 years, so i have been a support for the grizz for 3 years now and counting.

by **Fresh8** on Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:06 am

Dude...wat do u do as a ball boy? do u get paid...how does it all work? And wat do u need to do to become one?

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:48 am

the way i got on was because i went to Lorenzen BBall Camp, and i was on the all-star team for the high school boys, so i talked to him a little bit like after the camp and he said i can be a ball boy. his brother also go to my school so that also made me get on. u do get paid, but mostly you get to get players autographs and get to know all the players on your home team.

by **Matt** on Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:43 pm

paul_pierce_the_truth wrote:
Yessie4200 wrote:Sorry I don't see what Jerry West has done to even consider him a GM of the Year?

sometimes it's the little moves that make the difference. The trades the Mavs did may not necessarily work out. The team will probly get a similar amnount of wins as last year, and Memphis will probly increase their win amount

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Sat Dec 06, 2003 12:42 am

stack42 wrote:
paul_pierce_the_truth wrote:Sorry I don't see what Jerry West has done to even consider him a GM of the Year?

sometimes it's the little moves that make the difference. The trades the Mavs did may not necessarily work out. The team will probly get a similar amnount of wins as last year, and Memphis will probly increase their win amount

Good point.

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Sat Dec 06, 2003 7:33 am

The little moves make the team have more depth. You dont want to go out and exactly get someone like Kobe out of a trade. If you build your team with solid athletes who all can play, then your a good GM. If you look, it seems like West planned all these things the very first day he became a GM in Memphis. He came in here with a plan and he stuck with it. He didnt try to go out and make dumb moves or anything all because they we're losing the 1st 2 years. He waited patiently and now look at the Grizz! They can make the playoffs now with the addition of Bonzi, because if we can go on this winning streak they will have a great chance. If you look at the Grizzlies top 13 players which are: Lorenzen Wright, Pau Gasol, Mike Miller, Bonzi Wells, Jason Williams, Earl Watson, James Posey, Shane Battier, Bo Outlaw, Stromile Swift, Dahntay Jones, Jake Tskalidis and Troy Bell, all of them can really play! Now, you dont see any superstars on the team, but with them sharing the ball the way they do and with everybody on the court can play, we will be a tough team to defend.

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