Something big coming for Live 09

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Postby huddy187 on Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:13 pm

The NBDL would be great in Dynasty mode.You can assign your rookies to the
NBDL. If they dont beef up the dynasty mode this year i dont know what to say.
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Postby galvatron3000 on Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:55 am

"buying the 2K" engine would be great!!
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Postby huddy187 on Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:39 am

galvatron3000 wrote:"buying the 2K" engine would be great!!

yea and 2k can steal live presentation :P It would be the perfect basketball game
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Postby jlit on Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:01 pm

Who cares! What ever it is it won't be for PC users. Mr Moore today confirmed that NBA Live 09 is not going to be sold for PC! Heres the link;

http://itsinthegame.ea.com/archive/2008 ... he-pc.aspx
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Postby NTC on Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:09 pm

I want to believe it will be somthing 'good', however, this is EA we're talking about, the same company that tends to remove alot of features from previous versions of their Sports games, and re-hash them as "new" a couple of years later.

I don't have high hopes, but hey, surprise me.

I'm with huddy187, I just hope it's gameplay related, not online related... and I really hope it's a fully revamped Dynasty mode, because that has become so incredibly stale.
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Postby dascoot on Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:20 pm

I hope they add saving during the offseason or during a game.
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Postby [Q] on Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:18 pm

dascoot wrote:I hope they add saving during the offseason or during a game.


i dunno if you call putting an old feature back into the game "ground breaking" unless they mean breaking the shitty ground they were working on.
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Postby The X on Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:14 pm

Yeah, in-game saves would be good & it would make a lot of people happy....shit if Live '09 is good, I might get it, as I don't want to get another 2k game for a while as I want my Megacy to continue for a few years 8-)
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Postby JaoSming on Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:09 pm

and I believe again, Brian has said in those 1v1 that there will be no in-game saving.


..Ill make a sticky later today with all the information he's told us thus far.
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Postby shadowgrin on Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:49 am

They killed Live 08 for me when they messed around with the Direct Pass button with the alley-oop. I hope they burn in hell.

Maybe that groundbreaking feature is improving a player's ratings via practice mode and then using that player in online play. Kind of like leveling up in RPGs. Maybe even add unlockable accessories via practice mode for use online.
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Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:56 am

Not to dampen everyone's spirits (and I certainly hope I'm wrong) but the more I think about it, the more confident I feel that it will be online related. A lot of the other stuff we've speculated on so far seems like an extension/evolution of what we've already seen from the game. If this feature truly is "ground-breaking" then it's going to be something pretty ambitious.

If that does mean online, then the first thing that comes to mind would be an online Dynasty Mode, though I think that's already been shot down by the confirmation that there won't be a multiplayer Dynasty Mode. Still, nothing else comes to mind apart from expanded league play, since they've already done Online Team Play.
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Postby BIG GREEN on Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:59 am

Maybe a full fledged story mode like nba ballers had...or the nba game on ps2 had. Now that along with some ingame cut scenes and the ability to import your image into the console version as well as some kinda first person camera would make me buy live.
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Postby galvatron3000 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:09 am

groundbreaking has to be something not found(or remembered) in a basketball sim now or before. I left Live after '06, didn't play any basketball for the '07 versions of any game and joined up with 2K for the 2K8 game. That being said, I hope for the sake of all the people who truly love the game of basketball, that groundbreaking is GAMEPLAY related, not a new feature like freestyle or superstar or a mode but GAMEPLAY related. New physics, body collision detection, play calling on both side of the ball, etc, etc...
I've had it with gimmicks, no matter how good the idea fix the gameplay first, period.


I've been playing Live since I was 14 or 15 which means before it was LIVe and when it was Lakers versus Celtics. I'm a grown man still intrigued with video game basketball and competing as such. Live needs to grow with me or I'm growing away to a more realistic b sim experience.

It's cool you want the money and bring in a young audience but you're losing the "use to be" loyal base because of thee neglect to this one key request. THE GAMEPLAY, kids get excited about the gimmicks and tricks but for my $60 it better be a SIM and not NBA JAM.


Get some guys who truly love the game to point out the in's and outs and for crying out loud, get some vets to help with minor details, not these news stars who haven't pick up on the knick knacks, get Oscar Robertson and I'll pay attention to what you have to offer. He'll fix the game for sure if you implement his suggestions.
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Postby Modifly on Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:47 pm

Whatever it is, "ground-breaking" got me excited. The bad thing is, I dont have neither xbox or ps3..

I also think it will be something online related. I dont think EA are looking to penetrate into the normal gameplay mode. However, I'd like to see something like a tutorial. Remember in Live 07? There is a video tutorial teaching how to use the new features. I love that, it explains things better. Live 08 doesn't have that and that sucks. They should have made a video explaining the sigshots and gtms for Live 08. I wish that comes in Live 09.

Maybe I have to get a console game soon :?
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Postby Bodz on Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:56 pm

Hi all, I just thought I share with you some of my thoughts. In my profession, I've had some interactions with EA and some of the personnel do share about the business direction (on a private note) and I do remember during one of the conversation we had, one of guys did mention about expanding their business to online gaming and mobile gamings, and it won't be a surprise if Live 09 is heading in that direction as some of the speculations here goes. 8-)
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Postby The X on Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:28 pm

I think Andrew is on right track, but I think it'll essentially just be like FIFA 11 on 11, but Live 5 on 5....nothing groundbreaking about that....
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Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:35 pm

galvatron3000 wrote:Get some guys who truly love the game to point out the in's and outs and for crying out loud, get some vets to help with minor details, not these news stars who haven't pick up on the knick knacks, get Oscar Robertson and I'll pay attention to what you have to offer. He'll fix the game for sure if you implement his suggestions.


I don't think Oscar Robertson is the answer to NBA Live's problems. I think the main problem is focus and misunderstanding the desires of the key demographic. The focus on onine is a good example; while online play is more popular these days and arguably the future of gaming, single player modes (like Dynasty Mode) are still widely popular. Also, while it doesn't hold true for all players, many people don't make a distinction between "fun" and "realism" (drawing fun from the realism in the first place) so that aspect isn't always in balance.

The X wrote:I think Andrew is on right track, but I think it'll essentially just be like FIFA 11 on 11, but Live 5 on 5....nothing groundbreaking about that....


They've already got that though, so unless there's been some major overhaul or addition to Online Team Play I don't see them marketing it as ground-breaking. If online Dynasty is out, then perhaps online league play is the big new feature.
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Postby BIG GREEN on Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:44 pm

NBA 2k8 has that feature...and it's quite fun. Infact they have fully customizable league play including online drafts with other people. I would hardly see it as ground breaking if EA added that...more like catching up.
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Postby galvatron3000 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:22 am

Andrew wrote:
galvatron3000 wrote:Get some guys who truly love the game to point out the in's and outs and for crying out loud, get some vets to help with minor details, not these news stars who haven't pick up on the knick knacks, get Oscar Robertson and I'll pay attention to what you have to offer. He'll fix the game for sure if you implement his suggestions.


I don't think Oscar Robertson is the answer to NBA Live's problems. I think the main problem is focus and misunderstanding the desires of the key demographic. The focus on onine is a good example; while online play is more popular these days and arguably the future of gaming, single player modes (like Dynasty Mode) are still widely popular. Also, while it doesn't hold true for all players, many people don't make a distinction between "fun" and "realism" (drawing fun from the realism in the first place) so that aspect isn't always in balance.

The X wrote:I think Andrew is on right track, but I think it'll essentially just be like FIFA 11 on 11, but Live 5 on 5....nothing groundbreaking about that....


They've already got that though, so unless there's been some major overhaul or addition to Online Team Play I don't see them marketing it as ground-breaking. If online Dynasty is out, then perhaps online league play is the big new feature.



Agreed, but what I'm saying is the wealth of knowledge he could add to the overall game design from the years and position he played. I totally respect Oscar because he is straight to the point.

As far as realism and fun go, 2K has that locked up. They have a great foundation to build from, even flawed it's a great foundation.

Live keeps rebuilding the game from scratch and doesn't come close. Remember when planting your feet and pushin off was considered not fun to the Live team, 2k disproved that so I'm looking for people to get involved that truly love the game.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:39 am

galvatron3000 wrote:Agreed, but what I'm saying is the wealth of knowledge he could add to the overall game design from the years and position he played. I totally respect Oscar because he is straight to the point.


Perhaps, though he seems to be a bit disdainful towards the decades that followed his illustrious career. It couldn't hurt of course but I don't think bringing in an NBA legend is necessarily the answer, particularly someone who may not really be in touch with video games.
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Postby galvatron3000 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:39 am

He shouldn't have to be in touch with video games to give his opinion about the game of basketball, look at Fight Night, that game has a great foundation after they re-thought boxing and boxing video games. Get a solid foundation and build on that, the trick is what should be the foundation?
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Postby Beatboxer on Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:15 pm

BIG GREEN wrote:some kinda first person camera would make me buy live.


I second that.

Look what producers say:
http://www.pastapadre.com/2672/early-nb ... #more-2672
NBA Live Producers wrote:Sorry, no superstar mode this year. We’ve been working on something new this year that we’re pretty excited about. Unfortunately, I’m not allowed to talk about it now because I probably wouldn’t have a job tomorrow if I did. We’ll be announcing it at E3. We’re pretty sure it’ll change the way sports games are made.


Yes. A first person camera can change the way sports games are made.

So, i strongly believe, that groundbreaking feature will be a first person camera mode.

BTW, at least a mode like fifa's be-a-pro would be a good addition, too.
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Postby galvatron3000 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:37 pm

Beatboxer wrote:
BIG GREEN wrote:some kinda first person camera would make me buy live.


I second that.

Look what producers say:
http://www.pastapadre.com/2672/early-nb ... #more-2672
NBA Live Producers wrote:Sorry, no superstar mode this year. We’ve been working on something new this year that we’re pretty excited about. Unfortunately, I’m not allowed to talk about it now because I probably wouldn’t have a job tomorrow if I did. We’ll be announcing it at E3. We’re pretty sure it’ll change the way sports games are made.


Yes. A first person camera can change the way sports games are made.

So, i strongly believe, that groundbreaking feature will be a first person camera mode.

BTW, at least a mode like fifa's be-a-pro would be a good addition, too.



2K did that so it's not new, forgotten or groundbreaking
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:21 pm

galvatron3000 wrote:He shouldn't have to be in touch with video games to give his opinion about the game of basketball


I suppose so, though he can't really comment on what the consumer is after in this case. I see where you're coming from, I'm just not convinced Oscar Robertson (or indeed any NBA legend) is the answer to Live's problems.
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Postby Leander on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:00 pm

It will be groundbreaking as the number of major bugs is reduced to 50%. Only 10 major bugs that spoil the game will be left. ;)
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