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NBA JAM 2K20 TE (Final SNES Patch) Now Available!]

Postby eskayelle on Wed May 29, 2019 10:40 am

7/15/19 Update: Download the patch here! NBA Jam 2K20 TE

Don't forget the beta! NBA Jam 2K20 TE Beta

And what about that original Double Z Mod! Double Z Mod

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If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...
What stats would you give him?
Speed = ?
3 Pts = ?
Dunk = ?
Pass = ?
Power =?
Steal = ?
Block = ?
Clutch= ?
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Thu May 30, 2019 9:43 am

Hey, everyone. So I realized I failed to provide any real context on this. I'm currently working on an update to NBA Jam TE for SNES. Feel free to check out this forum for progress.

In any event, given all the great help this group provided EMiller when he was doing his 2K17 hack, I thought I'd reach out and get some thoughts on stats for a few players, in particular Zion Williamson, but also Trae Young of the Hawks.

Let me know your thoughts.

And... while I'm here... I might as well shamelessly plug my uber 90's mod, the original romhack of my Double Z trilogy.

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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby [Q] on Fri May 31, 2019 2:04 am

eskayelle wrote:What stats would you give him?
Speed = 8
3 Pts = 5
Dunk = 9
Pass = 6
Power = 9
Steal = 7
Block = 8
Clutch= 8

He's pretty OP in my opinion lol

Good luck with the mods, be sure to post about it here!
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Fri May 31, 2019 4:46 am

Thanks, Q! I'm maybe 95% of the way with the mod, just adding in a few more players (and replacing some previously compressed portraits) while I wait for the free agents to make their moves. I figure I'll have it out around August, depending on how many roster updates I need to make and how many players I need to add to any teams that fall under 3 players.

What are your thoughts on Trae Young?
Speed = ?
3 Pts = ?
Dunk = ?
Pass = ?
Power =?
Steal = ?
Block = ?
Clutch= ?
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby [Q] on Fri May 31, 2019 1:56 pm

eskayelle wrote:
What are your thoughts on Trae Young?
Speed = 9
3 Pts = 8
Dunk = 2
Pass = 8
Power = 1
Steal = 6
Block = 1
Clutch= 8

Ratings are 0-9, correct?
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby Andrew on Fri May 31, 2019 3:00 pm

I feel like Zion's ratings should be balanced out a little bit, in part because we haven't seen him in the NBA yet, and also because NBA Jam's ratings have always done that to avoid players from being too OP. Also, ratings of 4, 5, and even 3 can still be pretty effective in Jam. It's something that NBA Playgrounds hasn't figured out yet.

Definitely keep us posted about the project!
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby [Q] on Fri May 31, 2019 3:44 pm

Ah, that's true I wonder how he'll look against other guys who are as physically gifted as he is. That happens to a lot of NFL guys who struggle to gain the physical advantage they had in college.
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:42 am

Thanks, guys! I did a small step down for now for Zion and put him in both as a secret player and on the NOLA squad. Here's a couple snips from v1.95.57:

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FYI... Working title is NBA Jam 2K20 Tournament Edition.
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:58 pm

I'd say that looks about right for Zion. I'm not sure about Young's ratings as they feel a bit high, but I don't know what I'd reduce. Possibly Clutch by 1 or 2, for balance if nothing else.
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Reward Team Question

Postby eskayelle on Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:10 pm

Thanks, Andrew! I'll take another look at that clutch attribute when I drop in my next update (Pascal Siakam); I made ASM templates for new player edits, so stat updates have become something of a breeze these days

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;NBA Jam 2K20 TE
;Additional Player Insertion - Siakam
;(unfinished/untested)
;by eskayelle
;1 hour
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;Move the Upper Word and Lower Word portrait pointers
;for player #$5B
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org $11FB9F      ;PC $08FB9F
   dw $0045

org $11FA4B      ;PC $08FA4B
   dw $A8E0

org $xxxF70      ;PC $22AF70
   incbin siakamimpaled.pal

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;Player Stats
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   dw #$005B         ;player value
   dw #$0000         ;body size; tall (6'9")
   dw #$15F1         ;speed rating (6)
   dw #$03A2         ;3-pointer rating (4)
   dw #$0008         ;dunk rating (8)
   dw #$0006         ;block rating (6)
   dw #$0005         ;steal rating (5)
   dw #$0000         ;AI level
   dw #$0004         ;pass rating (4)
   dw #$0006         ;power rating (6)
   dw #$0008         ;clutch rating (8)
   dw #$B77F         ;skin pointer; black
   dw #$B7A7   ;head pointer; black hair

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   dw #$0006         ;speed
   dw #$0004         ;3s
   dw #$0008         ;dunk
   dw #$0004         ;pass
   dw #$0006         ;power
   dw #$0005         ;steal
   dw #$0006         ;block
   dw #$0008         ;clutch

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;Speed   ;Athleticism-->Speed
;3 Pts   ;Outside scoring-->Contested shot 3pt
;Dunk    ;Inside scoring-->Driving dunk
;Pass   ;Playmaking-->Passing IQ
;Power   ;Athleticism-->Strength
;Steal   ;Defending-->Steal
;Block   ;Defending-->Block
;Clutch   ;Outside scoring-->Shot IQ

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   db "P. SIAKAM"


Here's a riddle for the group: I currently have NOLA, Memphis and the Raptors sitting in the old "Rookies" slot, now dubbed "Others"/"Expansions" in the ROM. Setup is akin to Millertime's 2K17 hack, as I'm doing a large amount of mods to it to refresh for this year. When you beat the ol' 27 teams, that expansions team will disappear, and you'll earn the 2018-19 All-Stars (including Oladipo). Now, if you still wanted to play as NOLA/MEM/TOR, but you wanted your buddy to have the option of expanded rosters, no prob... I programmed a Konami Code that will let you have expanded rosters and no All-Star team.

With the Raps getting as far as they have in the playoffs/finals, I'm debating whether or not to replace the All-Star team with a standalone Raptors team that you have to earn by beating 27 teams. The Others/Expansions team wouldn't change, so you'd still be able to use Toronto from the getgo. The standalone team would just get you "Toronto" on the scoreboard and team select screens, plus Linsanity and Drake added to that roster.

Frankly, I'm more inclined to keep the All-Star team, and just make sure the Others/Expansions team has 4 solid Raps (Leonard, Lowry, Gasol, and now Siakam). If you had a vote, which way would you go for the "reward" team?
1) 2018-19 All-Stars
2) Independent Raptors complement (Leonard/Lowry/Gasol/Siakam/Lin/Drake)
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby Andrew on Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:03 am

Both are good ideas, but I also favour keeping the All-Stars as the unlockable super team, as in the original.
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby tinpanalley on Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:40 am

eskayelle wrote:Thanks, guys! I did a small step down for now for Zion and put him in both as a secret player and on the NOLA squad.

I watched Zion all year on my Devils, I think there were about 5 games I couldn't get on some form of televised broadcast and -- personal opinion only -- I'd make that 3-PT rating more of a 6, maybe even 7, and I'd definitely up that clutch rating to 8 and lower the speed to 7.
But again, personal opinions based only on watching him all year on Duke. Looking forward to this, this looks great.
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:42 am

Thanks, tinpanalley! I made a couple small revisions for Trae and Zion to my NBA Jam 2K20 TE v1.95.58 update, based on this forum.
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Re: If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby [Q] on Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:00 am

tinpanalley wrote:
eskayelle wrote:Thanks, guys! I did a small step down for now for Zion and put him in both as a secret player and on the NOLA squad.

I watched Zion all year on my Devils, I think there were about 5 games I couldn't get on some form of televised broadcast and -- personal opinion only -- I'd make that 3-PT rating more of a 6, maybe even 7, and I'd definitely up that clutch rating to 8 and lower the speed to 7.
But again, personal opinions based only on watching him all year on Duke. Looking forward to this, this looks great.

Don't forget college 3 is shorter but defenses are better in the NBA
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Spoiler Alert! Screenshots!

Postby eskayelle on Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:49 am

Posting an update from v1.95.58; here are some exclusive images of the intros and attract mode screens.

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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:18 pm

Love it. (Y)
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:19 pm

NBA Jam 2K20 TE v1.59.60 update:

So the 5 slot on the team rosters is my wildcard. You either get no teammate, a current teammate, or a prior star. So the Clippers get back Griffin and the Cavs James... cuz they need him.

And they get dirty player Dellavedova, in case my five slots move down to four with the free agency frenzy coming. Need some backup players in expanded ROM in case some teams lose some agents.

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(And you still get James on the Lakers and Blake on the Pistons. Bonus fun!)
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:59 am

I like that idea as well. It's something that Playgrounds has been doing with their collections of players.
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:32 pm

Interesting. I'm pondering dropping James onto the Heat as well, to get that nice combo with Wade one more time. It's a nod to the Heat fans, but it also allows me to take advantage of the Harold Miner player slot and reset the pointers to slot in another new 2K20 player in expanded ROM. I'm on the fence for now.

Depending on where Durant, Irving, etc. land, I may do something similar there too.

If there are any current players that made moves in the past couple years that may deserve a second listing on their previous team, I'm open to suggestions. I have a handful of teams with a 5th player available, maybe more as the free agents make those moves.
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:04 pm

Playgrounds has probably gone a little overboard with the idea, so I'd suggest not having too many of them. Durant probably is another candidate regardless.
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:00 am

Agreed. My plan is to only do this recent move clawback 5 or 6 times. Rest of my 5th slots will be none/90s or 00s star/current star, depending on how the team did in the current season (and how many player values I have left). Ahead of the free agency frenzy, I've allocated most of the slots to roster players or secret players, so the wildcard will be what becomes of the top free agents in the next couple months.

From NBA Jam 2K20 TE v1.95.61 update:

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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 am

Congrats to the World Champion Toronto Raptors!

The NBA Jam 2K20 TE v1.95.63 update (in process) will put "We the North"-esque uniforms and a red/black court on the Expansions team.

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For now, here's a v1.95.62 update, which includes minor updates/fixes and the addition of Evan Fournier. At this point, there are at least 165 players available to use, with more than 125 of them from the 2018-19 season.

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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:15 pm

Great!

Still wish I could find a way to mod the PC version of TE.
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby eskayelle on Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:51 pm

You know, I never had a chance to try it on PC. My biggest opportunities with the game were on SNES, arcade, and later PSX. Nice thing about modding it for SNES is you only have 16 face sprites to contend with... and no scaling. Admittedly, a cop-out, since the heads do end up generic compared to more advanced systems or Hang Time.

How's the PC version look/play, compared to the arcade?
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Re: [COMING SOON... NBA JAM 2K20 TE] If Zion Williamson were in NBA Jam TE...

Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:56 pm

I have a lot of love and nostalgia for the PC version, and it's an interesting port. I've covered it a few times in Wayback Wednesday:

https://www.nba-live.com/wayback-wednes ... ospective/
https://www.nba-live.com/ww-revisiting- ... t-edition/
https://www.nba-live.com/ww-edwards-mistake-nba-jam-te/
https://www.nba-live.com/ww-investigati ... e-ratings/
https://www.nba-live.com/wayback-wednes ... t-edition/

Shameless plugs aside, basically it's somewhere between the arcade and console versions in terms of graphics and presentation. In that regard it leans more towards the arcade version being noticeably superior to the consoles, and there's more audio (like Tim Kitzrow actually calling the names of players), as well as the video clips at halftime and full time. It's kind of a buggy port in that there are weird bounces and deflections of the ball when it doesn't seem to have actually been touched. There are other moments where the collision detection is a bit off as well, but apart from that it's the same game and a lot of fun. Notably, it doesn't have the practice mode the SNES version does, but has some updated rosters and logos. It's an interesting release all around, and I've definitely had a lot of fun hours with it over the years.
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