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Postby 3.14159 on Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:36 pm

JaoSming wrote:xdcanims.viv you mean? Im actually going to mess around with it right now and see what I can and can't do.

note: you mentioned the file that controls the animation, i mentioned the one that actually has the animation file.


inside the aidcact.viv there's a dunk.act. i believe its being use in dunk contest? i checked the contents and its seems you can just copy a line in there and transfer it in the dunk.act in aiact.viv. Then maybe (just maybe) we can finally see the between the legs or other cool dunks in 5v5.

Although aidcact,viv cant be open using dolffin. All i did was open the viv using notepad.

xdcanims? hmm, havent check that file..
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Postby looser on Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:13 pm

I like with shadows
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Postby JaoSming on Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:02 pm

using the other file is what Seushiro did to change 2005 and 2005 animations. I tried though to no avail, game crashed on me.

also that 2nd dunk.act looks messed to me, it is for the dunk contest, i can agree with that, but it has layup animations in it :?: anyway, i tried, the player did start to use the animation but it crashed.



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Postby 'Sheed on Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:17 pm

rucker is nice.
hope there's gonna be an individual practice version.
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Postby JaoSming on Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:24 pm

if i was an ass and didn't release one you could always use this
http://www.nbaliveforums.com/ftopic44355.php
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Postby njkobe on Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:41 pm

(Y) That Rucker Park is sick! (Y) (Y) (Y) :mrgreen:
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Postby Steve [The Spiderman] on Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:13 am

I like the shadows...
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Postby yosifun on Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:29 am

JaoSming wrote:Yes People, I'm talking about Rucker. Right now I have a very early beta version that I worked on this weekend. Then just now I added some shadows to it, tell me what you guys think.

Regular Version
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -09-51.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -35-32.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -06-96.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -48-50.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -15-57.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -32-15.jpg

Shadows Version
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -24-25.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -30-93.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -39-98.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -55-59.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -51-17.jpg
http://www.nba-live.com/jaosming/Street ... -29-31.jpg

Let me just tell you a bit about this, it is based off pictures from photobucket and flyckr, NOT video games. (i have good reasons for that) The court is final, and the backboard is final, they wont be changed. But the buildings and the other surroundings are going to change.

I'm curious if you guys like the shadowing better than the regular version of vise-versa. Also since it's looking like Im going to have another busy week of school work I'm curious of you want me to release this early version tomorrow or just wait until I finish it. When you answer that, please tell me if you would rather have the shadow or the regular version released.

So let's hear some comments on this.


It looks amazing, the shadows of the trees are really something special.

The only thing that's coming to my mind is the textures, the green looks too grassy to me so it will be good if you can fix that.
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Postby JaoSming on Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:55 am

I've decided to keep going with the shadows for right now, and to wait on the release until im happy enough for a v1.0. Some of the main things i need to address are the little shed, that building with the billboard on it, and the building that is kinda diagonal.

As for the green, if I desaturated it any more it looks pretty bad.

Here is another pic that I am actually using for my wallpaper right now
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Postby Scorer--20 on Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:29 am

Great rucker jao , also i love that fsh template (Y)

( That boston celtics jersey sucks hahha i mean the yours ) jk


Edit: I want that rucker for my practice court :wink:
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Postby yosifun on Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:58 am

JaoSming wrote:As for the green, if I desaturated it any more it looks pretty bad.


Just use another texure or blur the current one a bit (becasue it really looks like grass at the moment).
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Postby NBJ on Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:47 am

I agree with yosifun, it looks way to much like grass. Everything else is amazing! The shadows a really cool!
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Postby JaoSming on Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:49 am

all i did was give a green coloring to the 2003 pavement file, I personally, am very happy with the detail that i got from it and I don't want to change that.
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Postby kito_BR on Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:25 am

this court is amazing, I prefer without shadow version because I like the arcade style of it but the shadow version is much realistic than the other.One doubt: i want to know why dont you put people looking the game and why dont you put a bench to the substitutes!??!!?
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Postby JaoSming on Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:43 am

adding the crowd is a pain in the ass. the face that the crowd sits is what bugs me the most, yes I could edit the crowd animation file (its a ebo) but it would take too long for it to be worth it. 2nd issue with that is there is no good way to have a lot of people around the courts, there would only be about 10 to 50 people. If i can find a good way to implement people I will do it.

as for the benches, well, when I finally make the roster there are only going to be 5 people on each team. so why spend the extra effort on putting benches in cause when Im dont Im not going to be using them.
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Postby arden_05 on Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:17 am

First off, Jao the Rucker Park court looks amazing really...you definitely should release both the shaded and unshaded versions. Also if you were to add the crowd and advertisements and atmosphere that makes the Rucker what it is, this patch would be the court mod of the year IMO. I know its a pain in the "arse" but please consider doing this patch justice...thanks for your efforts :wink:
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Postby DVocShoeBox on Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:43 am

Man i love the court but to me every year somebody changed the colors of the court and make a great surroundin and calls it the rucker but 2 me it still isn't the rucker because it doesn't have the crowd and court surroundings for the great excitement like the only one that I like was LIVE'S 2003 RUCKER IN 03'S STREET MOD. even though this was the only court it was great but I guess the courts are tuffer to edit or something but STILL DON'T GET ME WRONG IT'S STILL A DREAT COURT!!! :wink: :lol:
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Postby Scorer--20 on Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:43 am

Jao add the nba live 2003 crowd ! , its just a pic ... its easy to import and modify.

Also i like the no crowd version
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Postby DVocShoeBox on Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:51 am

yeah its nice but I'll like the crowd version for the all-star game!!!
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Postby JaoSming on Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:25 pm

using a 3D crowd can't happen because I can't customize where the crowd can and can't be. If I use a 2005 crowd file there are too little people. And if I use a 06 or 07 one there are too many and they kinda float in mid air. Also creating stuff for the crowd to sit on is too difficult and takes away from other things needed for the court.

using a 2D crowd is the best way to go on this, 2 issues arise with this one though.
1 is when using a 2D crowd you will see the back of the crowd when playing, and it will just be a reverse image of what you see in the front.
2nd I have used all of the resources for this court for the buildings and the extra trees. The atmosphere just dies with only 3 trees and it doesn't "feel" like Rucker at all.

I am Not trying to make the EBC here guys, if I was I'd be using a different backboard texture and center logo texture. I just want to make the Rucker park that I would see if I just randomly decided to wander around Harlem. I would LOVE to have a crowd around all of my courts, but I don't feel the work that would be needed to put in is worth the result.
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Postby kito_BR on Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:41 am

ok jao, i understood some parts of your post....i want to know how (in street 06) were there crowd in every courts and on street 07 its difficult to do?

i want to know what program to use to edit your .fsh posted some posts later to editid the CF players
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Postby JaoSming on Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:15 am

i guess it's more of a personal taste. Here is what the crowds looked like in Street 06
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i250/ ... -34-10.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i250/ ... -07-64.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i250/ ... -52-95.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i250/ ... -08-12.jpg

I could very easily do the same thing as Street 06 and put that kind of crowd into every court, only problem is that the crowd will sit in mid-air, and there is no logical way to create something for the crowd to sit on without taking away from the rest of the court.
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Postby JaoSming on Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:14 am

Changed a couple of things

New Lightmap with "softer" shadows and brighter court
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Extra Trees behind each basket
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Postby kito_BR on Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:11 am

ITS NICE!!!!!!!

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Now I undestood why you dont put crowd on the courts.

thanks to explain ;)

what about to create a 3D crowd but without animation(sit and stand up) just put them up. Is there this possibility?
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Postby DVocShoeBox on Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:36 am

Great!!!
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