JaoSming's Thread ~ Street Legends Released ~ Done for 07

[JaoSming]

I dont get it either

i got
AMD 64 3000+ 1.81 ghz,
512 RAM,
256mb x800 GT

I run every other Live at 60+ and Live 07 caps me at 30 (I was at 15-20 before my patch)

any ideas?


oh and thanks badman

[Patr1ck]

Is your x800 an AGP card or PCI-X? If it is an AGP card, try looking at the AGP Aperture in your BIOS. Sometimes changing it can increase your frame rate, but its cpu-to-cpu whether you should increase or decrease it. I have mine at half of my RAM, so its at 512.

Do you have fastwrites on? Because your not supposed to with x800's.

Have you tried using modified ATI drivers, like Omega's? I stick to those for some reason.

So if you put all your video card settings to "performance" or low, and all your detail settings in-game to their minimum setting, what kind of fps do you get then?

[BigKaboom2]

15-20 FPS before that patch? That doesn't sound right.

I don't think they make Socket 939 mobos that use AGP, but I'm probably wrong. If I am, I second what Pdub said. Otherwise make sure V-Sync is off both in the game and in the driver control panel, unless you get bad tearing.

I played a game earlier and had 70-80 FPS (wouldn't go above 80 with V-Sync off, don't know why), without the midcourt slowdowns. It only happens some of the time, and I run a horrifically well-optimized system. I did turn off Gamma Correction Anti-Aliasing in the NVIDIA control panel, which ATI cards do by default, and that may have done it.

Anyway, to console ports.

[el badman]

I don't think they make Socket 939 mobos that use AGP, but I'm probably wrong. If I am, I second what Pdub said. Otherwise make sure V-Sync is off both in the game and in the driver control panel, unless you get bad tearing.

Wrong indeed, I have a socket 939 with an X850XT AGP.

I run every other Live at 60+ and Live 07 caps me at 30 (I was at 15-20 before my patch)

any ideas?

Weird, sounds like most other games that have a fps cap in their .ini, but I don't think that kind of stuff exists in Live...
Like Pdub said, increasing the aperture size in the BIOS can help sometimes, and disabling AGP fast writes definitely helps most of the time. Other than that, disabling vsync is a must to increase fps, and you might wanna check your virtual memory too.
One test you can do is play at different resolutions (but with the same settings) and see if you get around the same fps. If so, your CPU is limiting your performance.

[JaoSming]

no matter the resolution 800x600 - 1600-1200 i get the same fps

bench players on low or medium gets me to ~30

no difference between vsync on or off

turning down the other options helps a little bit, but honestly i wont play this game if i cant play max (except bench players)

[Patr1ck]

He has a better CPU than mine, so if any hardware is the bottleneck its either the RAM(either the amount, the speed or both), or the motherboard

[BigKaboom2]

That's really weird. Do you have really old drivers for your card or something? Any random processes running in the background? Must be something strange as far as I can tell. Also try defragmenting your drive.

[JaoSming]

I just told pdub online but ive been playing bf2 on medium settings ~80 fps

my RAM is Kingston DDR 512MB PC3200 HYPERX

Just updated (well reupdated) drivers today, no random unneeded processes, and ive been defragging.


PS I just popped in the NBA Live DVD (cause i was playing bf2 earlier) and the thing prompted me to install.....i said no, then i get a quick little progress bar and I said "no fucking way" ....yah NBA Live 07 just uninstalled...luckily I keep everything in the sgsm so i dont think i lost much of anything

[DoubleA]

Jao is there anyway you know how I can get my NBA to set itself to optimum settings for Display?

When I was using Jimmy's update I was getting high resolution on everything and the game played a treat, now I've used his latest rosters and the game comes through very grainy and is not that great anymore, any way you canhelp me?

[JaoSming]

i havent a clue man, ask Jimmy



thanks for the help guys, but lets get this thread back on topic.

[botbot]

hey guys,

is there any way on how we could remove reflections casted by players? I guess FPS would be better if i only the stadium would cast reflections. player reflections aren't that visible anyway.

[JaoSming]

nah, it is possible to get rid of the stadium relections and keep player reflections but it wouldnt give that much of a boost

[Dekiu]

I know it's off topic but how to check those frame rates?

[Darman]

does it fix the headband problem or not?(didnt saw a answer)

[JaoSming]

a little program called Fraps
http://nba-live.com/download/pafiledb.p ... ile&id=701


and no this doesnt fix the headband problem

[Markarian]

Hey Jao are you going to make another release of your lighting patch or should we consider the one already released final?

[dennischuaunsu]

i just installed your beta lighting patch but decided that i wanted the original file. is there a way for me to re-do it? please email me the file attachment of the original file since i deleted it already. thanks!


dennis

email: dennischuaunsu@yahoo.com

[JaoSming]

the original file can be found on your DVD in one of the compressed zips

For right now that is the final, I'd like to move on from it to other projects.

[Kasabian]

When I was using Jimmy's update I was getting high resolution on everything and the game played a treat, now I've used his latest rosters and the game comes through very grainy and is not that great anymore, any way you canhelp me?

turn on lighting in detail settings

[JaoSming]

I finished the court renaming tutorial

check it out here
http://www.nbaliveforums.com/ftopic44355.php

please keep all questions and comments about it in that thread

[les paul]

i wonder if you could change the lighting in the jerseys to emphasise the creases more if you know wat i mean?

Only way to do that further is through the jersey .fsh



Testers Needed
Have you noticed that the frame rate in 07 is lower than 06 and 2005? Notice how the game kinda gets choppy and forces you to play on lower detail settings than you used to in 06? I may have found a solution. PM me if you want to help me test a fix for this.

You need:
~to understand where the sgsm folder is (because thats where these filesgo)
~Fraps, or some other way of figuring out your frames per second
~and a computer that allows you to play with player detail on max

looking forward to hearing from some people to see if this works.

Will you teach me how to figure out the frame rates of my Game, cause I want to try your frame rate patch, to see if there is a difference

[JaoSming]

a little program called Fraps
http://nba-live.com/download/pafiledb.p ... ile&id=701


and no this doesnt fix the headband problem

download that it will tell you what your frames per second is


I tried doing my 2d crowd update and Live just wont let me (hi-resing the crowd and using the 2003 crowd) it just kept crashing on me

o well

[JaoSming]

bumpage for the new preview,

since the 2d crowd wasnt behaving I thought I'd make the 3D crowd blend in better. Kind of gives the new "spotlight" look some of the arenas are having now.






yay? nay?

[BAYAG]

i Like it.....Hey jao have you tried to replace the 3d crowd with the higher res 2003 or 2001 art?I tried to but after importing a modified crowd..it would be transparent and just show empty rows of seats lol

[el badman]

I think it's a bit too dark but it's pretty good.
I also like Bynum's new shoes