The Music Thread

[Matt]

Ive heard Thiefs Theme and Reminise from Nas album....not too long to ago. The advance is available on the net and ppl say it's hot.

Also hear 3 new Pac songs.....they have Outlawz, Nate Dogg and Jadakiss on them.

[SkipToMy_Lou]

Theres a new Tupac album being released with some unrleased stuff on it, Eminem and G-Unit produce and feature in a few tracks which is a huge dissapointment. Why are people who Pac didn't even know mixing and featuring in his songs?
Would be good if Method Man, Snoop, Bone Thugz, Wu Tang, Spice 1 and those guys if they did it, caus they actually new Pac. Anyway heres the track list and album cover for 'Loyal to the Game'

1. "Soldier Like Me (Return Of The Soulja)" featuring Eminem
Written by Tupac Shakur, Marshall Mathers, and Luis Resto
Produced by Eminem

2. "The Uppercut" featuring E.D.I. and Young Noble of the Outlawz
Written by Tupac Shakur, Randy "Stretch" Walker, Malcolm Greenidge, Rufus Cooper, Marshall Mathers and Luis Resto
Produced by Eminem

3. "Out On Bail"
Written by Tupac Shakur, Patrick Harvey, Darrin Strand, Anthony Mosely, Marshall Mathers and Luis Resto.
Produced by Eminem

4. "Ghetto Gospel" featuring Elton John
Written by Tupac Shakur, Deon Evans, Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Elton John and Bernie Taupin.
Produced by Eminem
Contains elements of "Indian Sunset" (E. John/B.Taupin). Used by Permission. All Rights Reserved. Used in courtesy of Mercury Records (UK). By arrangement with Polydor Records.

5. "Black Cotton" featuring Eminem and Kastro and Young Noble of the Outlawz
Written by Tupac Shakur, Deon Evans, Dana "Mouse" Smith, Katari Cox, Rufus Cooper, Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto and Steve King.
Produced by Eminem

6. "Loyal To The Game" featuring G-Unit
Written by Tupac Shakur, The Riddler, Anthony Criss, Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Steve King, Curtis Jackson, David Brown and Lloyd Banks.
Produced by: Eminem

7. "Thugs Get Lonely Too" featuring Nate Dogg
Written by Tupac Shakur, Randy "Stretch" Walker, Christopher "Majesty" Walker Kevin Rhames, Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto and Nathaniel Hale.
Produced by Eminem

8. "N.I.G.G.A (Never Ignorant About Getting Goals Accomplished)" featuring Jadakiss
Written by Tupac Shakur, Deon Evans, Dana "Mouse" Smith, Maurice Harding, Jason Philips Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Steve King and Curtis Mayfield.
Produced by Eminem

9. "Who Do You Love?"
Written by Tupac Shakur, Randy "Stretch" Walker, Marshall Mathers and Luis Resto.
Produced by Eminem

10. "A Crooked Nigga Too"
Written by Tupac Shakur, Deon Evans, Randy "Stretch" Walker, Marshall Mathers and Luis Resto.
Produced by Eminem

11. "Don't You Trust Me?"
Written by Tupac Shakur, Deon Evans, Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto and Dido Armstrong
Produced by Eminem
Contains elements of "Do You Have A Little A Time" by Dido.

12. "Hennessey" featuring Obie Trice
Written by Tupac Shakur, Randy "Stretch" Walker, Christopher “Majesty” Walker, Kevin Rhames, Tyruss Himes, Maurice Harding, Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Steve King and Obie Trice, III
Produced by Eminem

9. "Thug 4 Life"
Written by Tupac Shakur, Johnny Jackson, Marshall Mathers and Luis Resto.
Produced by Eminem

BONUS TRACKS

10. "Po Nigga Blues (Scott Storch Remix)" featuring Ron Isley
Written by Tupac Shakur, Katari Cox, Malcolm Greenidge, Daryl Anderson, Scott Storch and Ron Isley
Produced by Scott Storch

11. "Hennessey (Red Spyda Remix)" featuring E.D.I. of the Outlawz and Sleepy Brown
Written by Tupac Shakur, Randy "Stretch" Walker, Christopher "Majesty" Walker, Kevin Rhames, Tyruss Himes, Maurice Harding, Andy Thelsuma, Malcolm Greenidge and Patrick Brown.
Produced by Red Spyda

12. "A Crooked Nigga Too (Raphael Saadiq Remix)"
Written by Tupac Shakur, Deon Evans, Randy "Stretch" Walker and Raphael Saadiq
Produced by Raphael Saadiq

13. "Loyal To The Game (DJ Quik Remix)" featuring Big Syke
Written by Tupac Shakur, The Riddler, Anthony Criss, David Blake, Tyruss Himes and Ande Hamilton.
Produced by DJ Quik
Contains elements from various songs by the Watts Prophets. Used by Permission. All Rights Reserved. Performed by the Watts Prophets. Used courtesy of Classic Cut

Good to see Ghetto Ghospel on there and Souljas Story.

[J@3]

4. "Ghetto Gospel" featuring Elton John

he's one gangsta ass negro

[SkipToMy_Lou]

he's one gangsta ass negro

Elton John wasn't in the original version, probably some fag like Eminem added him.

[Fresh8]

Up with Outkast... has Andre 3000 made his cartoon yet?

[Matt]

yeah i got that list a day or two ago. All tracks produced by Eminem....um.......FUCK!!!!!. Shitness is in the air, and he had to get his ass raping dickliking buddy elton john on there 2.

Review of Nas Streets Disciple (not by me of course)

Nas - Street's Disciple

Record Label: Ill Will/Columbia Records
Featured Artists: Busta Rhymes, Ludacris, Olu Dara, Doug E. Fresh, Kelis, Maxwell
Article by: Premiere

Almost all rappers have big egos. It's damn near a rule. However, very few people's self-image is quite as outstanding as that of Nasir Jones. This is a man who has claimed he could carry the cross if Jesus Christ had not existed. This is the same man who has mentioned he could end hip-hop numerous times. This is the man who earned the right to say whatever with his Holy Grail of hip-hop debut in 1994, Illmatic. However, he has also been forced to stand in that album's shadow for the rest of both his career and life. Nas refuses to pale in comparison to that classic, and he plans to build a new peak with his double-disc magnum opus, Street's Disciple.

The man with a fetish for the epic is begins his own with a dark, forboding intro which features the man speaking in a somber tone, a false sign as the first disc is an angry hip-hopera. "A Message To The Feds, Sincerely, We The People" is a powerful statement aimed towards those who he feels are trapping his pro-black movement. His rapping abilities have not been so sharp since at least his 1996 classic It Was Written. "Nazareth Savage" is a title which invokes religious symbolism, yet his lyrics are downright vicious. His fiery attacks on everyone are just a foreshadowing of what's to follow. "American Way" is a collaboration between Nas and his fiancee Kelis, as he displays his disgust with the American political structure which is made to quash any rebellion. The funky Parliament-sampling bounce of a beat helps Nas evoke a feeling of a time when minority artists were not afraid to speak ill of a system built to keep them down. He reaches an amazing peak on "Coon Picnic (These Are Our Heroes)", where he calls out current celebrities, including Kobe Bryant and Cuba Gooding Jr., as "spooks" and "jiggaboos". His searing exposure of those he sees as fake is amazingly funny and truthful at the same time. He brings the mixtape heater "Disciple" with a new beat, and it still is as passionate and powerful as it was originally. "Sekou Story" is a narative which makes sure the listener remembers that Nas is still the reigning storyteller of hip-hop (although even he would admit that all-time belongs to MC Ricky D). He even trades verses with an amazingly skilled female MC named Scarlett. She also appears on the heartwrenching "Live Now", a tale of a woman dying. She makes sure Nas knows, with her dying breath, not to waste his limited time on Earth. "Rest of My Life" is the immediate follow-up, and is beautifully sequenced. "Just A Moment" is a gorgeous tribute to Nas' and Quan's fallen family, whether they be blood related or people they were raised with. The first disc ends with the Jay Dilla-esque "Reason", a song which stands as an inspiring track where Nas tells numerous tales of tragedy, which all allow in a glimmer of hope.

The second album is a new story, as Nas evolves from a young player to a grown-ass man, in the words of Cedric the Entertainer. "Suicide Bounce" is a sure-to-be second single, as Busta Rhymes helps God's Son explode over the Scott Storch soundscape. The frenticness of this track perfectly leads into the more reflective, yet equally explosive "Street's Disciple". The violin-powered track and the beautiful storytelling make this another shining star among a cluster. "U.B.R. (Unauthorized Biography Of Rakim)" is one of the weaker tracks, yet it still is an excellent tribute to his favorite rapper of all-time. Perfection is reached on the funky "Virgo", as Ludacris and Nas trade breathtaking bragadocious verses over the legendary Doug E. Fresh's brilliant beatboxing. Lines like "Could be a little pop-lockin/ if ya girl's tops droppin/ but watch for cock blockin/ on my coochie stock options" make this an ode to a time when "Lodi Dodi/ We like to party" could be a culture's motto. "Remember The Times" is a vulgar, yet disgustingly funny recount of his past sexual experiences and how they don't account to anything compared to Kelis' love. "The Makings Of A Perfect Bitch" is perhaps the funniest track Nas has ever made outside of "Ether". It's almost made in a 2Pac tone, and it's just as ironically serious. "Getting Married" is utterly gorgeous, and his love of Kelis is obviously as inspiring as Ill Will's death was 10 years ago. The music may not be as good, but it is as passionate. "No One Else In The Room" is a 80's pop concoction which makes perfect sense on this honeymoon track; Maxwell's breezy falsetto adds a sweetness to the track. Next is the first single, the mud stomping "Briding the Gap", which features Nas' jazz virtuoso father Olu Dara; it's a good song, but it sounds alm ost average on this album. "War" is a New Yorker's New York song. The Sinatra-impersonating hook makes this feel like a Christmas in Queensbridge, which for some reason feels outstanding. The album ends on the sappy, sugary "Me & You (Dedicated To Destiny)". If only I had something bad to say about this one.

Street's Disciple was looking two fates in the face: it could either be the Lebron James or Micheal Olokwandi. It could substantiate the hype and even surpass it, or fall to the wayside. Nas refused to do the latter, and much like his former rival, he would not lose. This may just be the greatest hip-hop double album ever, making Nas accomplish what those other three MCs always mentioned in the same breath as he is never could: he made a double album with no filler. Jesus H. Christ.

iPod Worthy: "Coon Picnic (These Are Our Heroes)", "War", "Me & You (Dedicated To Destiny)", "Live Now", "Virgo"

Skippable: Not a single track

Overall: 6 Out of Six Shots

[Colin]

I keep forgetting to go to A&B Sound Must...get...album.

[Jackal]

I like the Mockingbird song performed by Eminem from Encore. It's quite a nice song.

[Colin]

I'm confused now.

I just called A&B Sound here in Vancouver, they have some of the best selections of rap in the city. The guy I talked to there said they were getting it Nov. 30th. Yet you already have it in Australia???

[SkipToMy_Lou]

I'm confused now.

I just called A&B Sound here in Vancouver, they have some of the best selections of rap in the city. The guy I talked to there said they were getting it Nov. 30th. Yet you already have it in Australia???

I had mine pre-ordered from HMV (Melbourne's best music store) and they called my up a couple days ago. I was rapt caus I thought Australia would get it a bit later as usual

[Colin]

The HMV here didn't even know when it was coming!!!

HMV is one of the worst places to buy music here, everything is overpriced. The $14 CD's cost $17, the $20 CD's cost $25. Stupid store. I'm just glad Vancouver has cheap music prices. Those $14 (that's Canadian money) CD's were selling for $20 US in Seattle.

[SkipToMy_Lou]

HMV is expensive in Australia too
But it is the only place to buy non mainstream rap music (Outlawz, Jadakiss, Talib Kweli, Jedi Mind Tricks).

[Arcane]

HMV cqan be a jip here it can cost upto $65 for an album if it needs to be imported screw that shit. Most of the R&B I got isn't the mainstream stuff. I don't feel guilty downloading mp3's if I can't purchase the cd here.

[Ataraxia]

Rap Rock

anybody like Cypress Hill or are they like regarded as wanksta class

[Matt]

JB HiFi have a nice collection....relative

[Filip]

anybody like Cypress Hill or are they like regarded as wanksta class

I like the 'black sunday' album. Nothing else sounds anything like it. The beats are slow and relaxing and still kinda heavy, the lyrics are sometimes hilerious. If you wanna get high (not that I suggest that you should) and have some fitting background music on, this is the album to choose, period!

[SkipToMy_Lou]

Cypress Hill is coming to Melbourne for a concert tour soon, but I'm not really into them so won't be going.

[Colin]

HMV cqan be a jip here it can cost upto $65 for an album if it needs to be imported screw that shit.

The most expensive album I have is Biggie's 'Life After Death'. It was a Christmas present but it was selling for $50 CDN. That's about $35 US.

[Arcane]

ahh luv that album.

the $65 is equal to US$50.6752 at the current moment but the few cds i seen for that price were 1 cd albums not double cd albums like life after death.

[Colin]

That's insanely expensive. $$$$$$

The most expensive albums I have are Life After Death ($50), 2Pac 'All Eyez On Me' ($40), and Eric B. & Rakim 'Paid in Full: The Deluxe Version' ($35.) That's for 5-mic classics of artists that don't make music anymore.

I thank god every day stuff is so cheap in Vancouver.

[Arcane]

haha lucky bastard...it sux getting ripped off here.

[Big-D]

Rap Rock

thats what i was thinkin. its easier to defend a song like vertego then white tee but not all rap songs are bad i usually listen to everything

[Matt]

i got a site that everyone that loves hip-hop should visit....PM me if you want the link, trust me it's worth it

[Filip]

http://www.ohhla.com

[j.23]

hey does anyone know any songs that has old beats incorporated in them?

eg. jay z - died in your arms
puffy - i'll be missing you

.. you get the idea, thanks