Full Detailed Update Jordan Challenge Project

[maumau78]

Great work!

you want in ?

If somehow I can help yes why not

missing faces and correct era unis just pick which ones and let me know so people don't double up on the same things.

Retro uni's that I already made but I think 2K has 90% of them already

But the question is: what the two plugin from Looyh can unlock?

I mean we can create some college teams and have them to play in the 1982 final?

[dante24]

This is gonna be epic

[KyotoCarl]

Really cool! Will you also be adding more games?

Two games I hoped would be in the game this year was Game 4 of the 1993 Finals where Jordan scored 55 points and his comeback game in 1995 against the Indiana Pacers.
Would be cool to have at least two games from the 95 season when he wore 45.

actually, this is an idea that I have to add more events and teams. Won't be inside the mode (for now) but with all the progress vetimin has done with era presentations. We could do more I have a least a few in mind all ready. DoctahTobogganMD has made a young and blad Barkley so the 1993 finals Game 4 was in the plans. I was not thinking of the comeback game because they lost and he played like shit, but it is a memorial game so maybe. I was thinking of the game-winner game vs the hawks in Atlanta right before 55 pts vs the knicks. And one more in #45 would be game 1 vs hornets in charlotte's win he dropped 48 pts. Was thinking of adding game 2 vs the magic in Orlando when he went back to #23 and debut Air Jordans 11s.

That Magic game was the third game I was going to suggest
Why the Pacers comeback game would be cool, imo, is that it would make you play with a Jordan who's not a 99 and where you can't take over a game with him; you have to work for your points, just like he did. And it would add a good Reggie Miller along with a retro Pacers court to the game which we've never had.
It's a also the start of a new era of Jordan.

[hokupguy]

Great work!

you want in ?

If somehow I can help yes why not

missing faces and correct era unis just pick which ones and let me know so people don't double up on the same things.

Retro uni's that I already made but I think 2K has 90% of them already

But the question is: what the two plugin from Looyh can unlock?

I mean we can create some college teams and have them to play in the 1982 final?

Thats great where are the links to those unis ?

The looyh jordan challenge script lets u use edit rosters in the mode or just make edits as if you are already in the mode.
The other script unlock all team automatically so u don't have to within 2ktools.

[hokupguy]

Great work!

you want in ?

If somehow I can help yes why not

missing faces and correct era unis just pick which ones and let me know so people don't double up on the same things.

Retro uni's that I already made but I think 2K has 90% of them already

But the question is: what the two plugin from Looyh can unlock?

I mean we can create some college teams and have them to play in the 1982 final?

Thats great where are the links to those unis ?

The looyh jordan challenge script lets u use edit rosters in the mode or just make edits as if you are already in the mode.
The other script unlock all team automatically so u don't have to within 2ktools.

[maumau78]

Great work!

you want in ?

If somehow I can help yes why not

missing faces and correct era unis just pick which ones and let me know so people don't double up on the same things.

Retro uni's that I already made but I think 2K has 90% of them already

But the question is: what the two plugin from Looyh can unlock?

I mean we can create some college teams and have them to play in the 1982 final?

Thats great where are the links to those unis ?

The looyh jordan challenge script lets u use edit rosters in the mode or just make edits as if you are already in the mode.
The other script unlock all team automatically so u don't have to within 2ktools.

Ok name few of them I'll post pics....

>The looyh jordan challenge script lets u use edit rosters in the mode or just make edits as if you are already in the mode.
So If i select NCAA Jordan Challenge we'll full presentation but we can use any NCAA teams we like?
The same with Utah Jazz challenge we'll have the same effect?

I'm sorry but I didn't play it much.....(Jordan Challenge I mean)

[hokupguy]

Great work!

you want in ?

If somehow I can help yes why not

missing faces and correct era unis just pick which ones and let me know so people don't double up on the same things.

Retro uni's that I already made but I think 2K has 90% of them already

But the question is: what the two plugin from Looyh can unlock?

I mean we can create some college teams and have them to play in the 1982 final?

Thats great where are the links to those unis ?

The looyh jordan challenge script lets u use edit rosters in the mode or just make edits as if you are already in the mode.
The other script unlock all team automatically so u don't have to within 2ktools.

Ok name few of them I'll post pics....

>The looyh jordan challenge script lets u use edit rosters in the mode or just make edits as if you are already in the mode.
So If i select NCAA Jordan Challenge we'll full presentation but we can use any NCAA teams we like?
The same with Utah Jazz challenge we'll have the same effect?

I'm sorry but I didn't play it much.....(Jordan Challenge I mean)

All the jordan challenge teams need updates unis.

regarding your question, I have not tried to edit too far out of the borders of the Jordan challenge. But so far just working on the roster adding missed players and correcting rotations. Based on that for example the storyline and a lot of the broadcast audio will not change. I have changed the starting lineups for Georgetown, unc, and 84 us. And the broadcast team still read their lines like no edits have changed.

Based on some test looyh did he is not sure if replacing unc with Flordia team might cause crashes through the game. So yes you can replace a team but will it cause bugs and crashes i don't know.

[mickachiste]

Hello guys !!!

So happy to help of the project. As I said to hokup, I have nearly done all the necessary shoes from a previous big project on 2k19. So so excited !!!!!!!

[hokupguy]

Hello guys !!!

So happy to help of the project. As I said to hokup, I have nearly done all the necessary shoes from a previous big project on 2k19. So so excited !!!!!!!

we happy to have a shoe god on the team.

[hokupguy]

happy to announce that Shuajota is join the team

[Shuajota]

I will definitely help with this project. @hokupguy Let me know the necessary cyberfaces to start working on them.

[hokupguy]

Here is quick preview of the modded team roster to be used in the Jordan challenge. All Correct players have been added, all audio names work for the 12 active players. As you can see still need cyberface for a few and have yet to touch the Hoosier dome. Next time I preview this team the Hoosier dome would be updated or at least W.I.P. ...

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[snake212]

is that new music presentation????

[hokupguy]

is that new music presentation????

you mean the CBS theme ???

[Dolomike21]

My god is this You all are legendary for this.

[Murat]

Told you before, I can do arenas from scratch in Blender.

[hokupguy]

ok just quick update. I am putting together the final touchs of the "To-Do-List" and I am also putting together a private discord channel for the modding team.

This is who I have so far , I don't think I missed anyone. I have also put out a few feelers to other modders let see if they join.

Team so far.....

Hokupguy
Stickyfingers
vetimin
doctahtobogganMD
sevin0seven
maumau78
Mickachiste

[hokupguy]

ok just quick update. I am putting together the final touchs of the "To-Do-List" and I am also putting together a private discord channel for the modding team.

This is who I have so far , I don't think I missed anyone. I have also put out a few feelers to other modders let see if they join.

Team so far.....

Hokupguy
Stickyfingers
vetimin
doctahtobogganMD
sevin0seven
maumau78
Mickachiste

The team just grew by 1 Mahmood as offered to handle some era-specific SFX sounds .

[hokupguy]

the private discord channel has been set up for the modding team. I sent link out to everyone (check discord/twitter/ ur in box here).

Also some goodies from vetimin


I have started on the 82 superdome very early WIP


And Mickachiste has started on shoes

[bongo88]

no troubles about the pm.... just answering it here in case other people have ideas and stuff.

don't know much about the animations... will tell you what i know... maybe looyh can write a script that delays the scoreboard showing or something... not sure what he can do

using 2k23 default scoreboard


the animations play one after another.... not sure if on the same animation track or multiple tracks... anyways, if you set scorehome to 0.0 --> 17.0 then you can watch all the animations

https://streamable.com/39o1l8

can change what animation plays by changing the timestamps
for instance: set "scorehome" to the scoreaway timestamps --- change "scorehome" to 2.91666675 -> 4.1666698 ... and when the home team makes a 2 point basket, the away score animation will play.

So, get rid of Intro ... change numbers to something big ... like 100 -> 101
that will make the scorebug_intro.SCN play... but the scoreboard will not fade into view .... clean screen
so, progress.... clean screen.... can get rid of scorebug_intro.SCN animation by by opening scorebug_intro.scn and chaning animation to something big ... 100 ->101

anyways, game starts.... no intro animation (big number) ... clean screen ....
Then ... if you set scorehome to Fadeout 16.666679 -> 17.0 .... the scoreboard is in view for 1.5 seconds or so (animation length) ... scoreboard disappears ... but pops back into view and stays on screen... game seems to make sure that the scoreboard is on the screen

So, not great.... scoreboard disappears ... then pops back onto screen

Anyways, if you clear the intro animation .... then you will have a clean screen at start of game... or after replay (screenwipe) ... or timeout... so some portions are clean screen



You can maybe ask looyh with his tools and decompilers and stuff.... if he can find the memory value after replay swipe or after the fade out animation.... why the scoreboard gets put back on screen... maybe there's a memory value he can script around... i have no idea ...

but the sequence is this:
set intro to 100 ->101
set homescore to fade out times ( 16.66679 -> 17.0) ...
restart game....
home team 2 point basket ...
then scoreboard appear...
then scoreboard fadeout...
then game forces it to appear on screen (like a safety check)

but no idea what looyh can do ... anyways, that all i know about the animations

edit --went away and came back to the post--:
in the 2k23 default scoreboard.... there is a pause in the animations from 8.8 or so to 12.0 or so.... just looking at animations while answering your question
the funny part is this

Code: Select all

      "ScoreHome": {
         "ANIM_RANGE_START_TIME": 8.8,
         "ANIM_RANGE_END_TIME": 11.99,
         "ANIM_RANGE_LOOP": 0
      },
      "ScoreAway": {
         "ANIM_RANGE_START_TIME": 8.8,
         "ANIM_RANGE_END_TIME": 11.99,
         "ANIM_RANGE_LOOP": 0

if i had just watched the animation sequence more carefully and set the score home/away/3pt to those valuse 8.8 ->11.99 ..... easy static tricode and fast animation switch
didn't have to do any other scene edits and copy files and all that other stuffs.... hahahaah, that's funnny. oh well. lol... woulda turned an hour or two of scene fiddling with 2k23/2k18/2k20 .... into 8 seconds hahahah

but yeah, homescore ->fadeout doesn't work .... but you can have clean screen for a little bit by removing the intro animation

good luck with your mod

[hokupguy]

no troubles about the pm.... just answering it here in case other people have ideas and stuff.

don't know much about the animations... will tell you what i know... maybe looyh can write a script that delays the scoreboard showing or something... not sure what he can do

using 2k23 default scoreboard
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the animations play one after another.... not sure if on the same animation track or multiple tracks... anyways, if you set scorehome to 0.0 --> 17.0 then you can watch all the animations

https://streamable.com/39o1l8

can change what animation plays by changing the timestamps
for instance: set "scorehome" to the scoreaway timestamps --- change "scorehome" to 2.91666675 -> 4.1666698 ... and when the home team makes a 2 point basket, the away score animation will play.

So, get rid of Intro ... change numbers to something big ... like 100 -> 101
that will make the scorebug_intro.SCN play... but the scoreboard will not fade into view .... clean screen
so, progress.... clean screen.... can get rid of scorebug_intro.SCN animation by by opening scorebug_intro.scn and chaning animation to something big ... 100 ->101

anyways, game starts.... no intro animation (big number) ... clean screen ....
Then ... if you set scorehome to Fadeout 16.666679 -> 17.0 .... the scoreboard is in view for 1.5 seconds or so (animation length) ... scoreboard disappears ... but pops back into view and stays on screen... game seems to make sure that the scoreboard is on the screen

So, not great.... scoreboard disappears ... then pops back onto screen

Anyways, if you clear the intro animation .... then you will have a clean screen at start of game... or after replay (screenwipe) ... or timeout... so some portions are clean screen



You can maybe ask looyh with his tools and decompilers and stuff.... if he can find the memory value after replay swipe or after the fade out animation.... why the scoreboard gets put back on screen... maybe there's a memory value he can script around... i have no idea ...

but the sequence is this:
set intro to 100 ->101
set homescore to fade out times ( 16.66679 -> 17.0) ...
restart game....
home team 2 point basket ...
then scoreboard appear...
then scoreboard fadeout...
then game forces it to appear on screen (like a safety check)

but no idea what looyh can do ... anyways, that all i know about the animations

edit --went away and came back to the post--:
in the 2k23 default scoreboard.... there is a pause in the animations from 8.8 or so to 12.0 or so.... just looking at animations while answering your question
the funny part is this

Code: Select all

      "ScoreHome": {
         "ANIM_RANGE_START_TIME": 8.8,
         "ANIM_RANGE_END_TIME": 11.99,
         "ANIM_RANGE_LOOP": 0
      },
      "ScoreAway": {
         "ANIM_RANGE_START_TIME": 8.8,
         "ANIM_RANGE_END_TIME": 11.99,
         "ANIM_RANGE_LOOP": 0

if i had just watched the animation sequence more carefully and set the score home/away/3pt to those valuse 8.8 ->11.99 ..... easy static tricode and fast animation switch
didn't have to do any other scene edits and copy files and all that other stuffs.... hahahaah, that's funnny. oh well. lol... woulda turned an hour or two of scene fiddling with 2k23/2k18/2k20 .... into 8 seconds hahahah

but yeah, homescore ->fadeout doesn't work .... but you can have clean screen for a little bit by removing the intro animation

good luck with your mod

thank for the info, appreciate the time to try and explain.

[snake212]

the private discord channel has been set up for the modding team. I sent link out to everyone (check discord/twitter/ ur in box here).

Also some goodies from vetimin
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I have started on the 82 superdome very early WIP
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And Mickachiste has started on shoes
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wowwww........that NBC looks so good!!! Hey make cyberfaces, fixes, and things like that. Still have to learn how to work with hair, but of i can help...im here

[cujomatty]

Very cool guys. Really looking forward to this.

[hokupguy]

Very cool guys. Really looking forward to this.

thanks , we are to.

[hokupguy]

Here is a preview of what the 1st Jordan Challenge Moment is looking like. Most of the Presentation is made by Vetmin, Scorebug by @sticky-fingers the title card by me & @Mahmood . Also done by me the Dome is still coming along. And the roster still has to be tweaked after the last update it changed a few things. also need cfs for most of the College players still.

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