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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 5-8 Released)

Postby JEDL on Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:40 am

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For other fictional draft classes, check out jomo’s draft classes. We’ve made sure the cyberfaces we use don’t overlap.

Hi, I am returning with my fictional draft classes yet again for the 4th year! With the popularity of the 2020, 2021, 2022, etc. draft classes (props to these guys), unedited historical draft classes and the C H I N A draft classes, I present to you my draft classes with the following features:
  • More than 7 players actually being edited and fleshed out. Year 1 has over 80 fully edited players (cyberfaces/create a player faces, attributes, accessories, signatures, vitals, most of the tendencies, hot zones and badges) with 20 more partially edited ones (create a player faces, accessories, potentials, Peak Starts and Ends). Year 2 has 70 plus 10 more partially edited ones too. I plan to have more than 60 for each Year batch I make.
  • No ridiculous Gary Stu self inserts with 90+ OVR, 99 Potentials and Peaks starting at 21 and ending at 41.
  • 2nd round players or undrafted players will have actual value. I am in the firm belief that players in this range can contribute and others will only flourish when given the chance. The CPU may or may not take advantage of this since they rarely play players with overalls 72 or less while players with untapped potential in Free Agency don’t improve.
  • Peak Starts and Ends actually being modified. I made sure some with high potentials will peak early while others will peak late and some with low potentials will peak late. So, in other words, a guy with a high potential is never a guarantee.
Despite 2K’s insistence that they’ve improved draft classes I will say why they haven’t even tried. But first, on the good things:
  • Tendency numbers are slightly better, I guess?
  • Shot signatures are dependent on height. Not helpful in all aspects, but it’s something.
  • That’s it.

Now here’s why it’s still awful:
  • Badges are lacking. You have a player like LeBron or Antetokounmpo with 40+ badges, while a typical 2K rando is only 2-6 badges. It is impossible to build up a badge repertoire of more than 20!
  • A lot of the ratings still feel like random number generators. You’ll have a guy with 45 in Steals but 83 in Pass Perception, a PG with 70 Interior Defense and 52 in Perimeter Defense just to name a few.
  • ACCESSORIES. I don’t know why but 2K’s AI generator has an obsession with putting

    S T R A P S over KNEE AND LEG ACCESSORIES
    or any arm bands over arm sleeves. Name me more than 3 players in the league who do this. Please someone tell me. PLEASE. I’ll tell you 2K’s randomly generated draft classes have more than 20 players who have this, I guarantee.
  • Peak Start and Peak End. Look, I like late bloomers for MyLeague, I like making the CPU look dumb for passing on this guy I just picked up on the 2nd round. But most of 2K’s guys have it on 27 until 33. It’s BS. Most start their peak much earlier and a lot even decline early too.
  • Players who look like failed science experiments.I will show you your typical 2K randomly generated degenerate:Image


Years 1-3 (Offline): https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=258&t=108091&p=1994384#p1994384

In 2K Share:
Username: Chrome_Claymore
File Name: JEDL Fictional Year 4
File Name: JEDL Fictional Year 5
File Name: JEDL Fictional Year 6
File Name: JEDL Fictional Year 7
File Name: JEDL Fictional Year 8

Year 1 Draft Board: https://i.imgur.com/sDykWq6.png?1


Full scouting reports (Year 1):
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby Miiles on Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:56 am

Finley is back! :o Great job ;)
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby Issy on Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:25 am

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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby TrillSimmons on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:17 am

Thanks man. I realized I get too focused on having accurate draft classes that I spend more time editing them than actually playing the game. Gonna spend this year with fictional players that I don't have any expectations for.
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby RobDavis on Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:46 am

You know i gotta use these for my college hoops roster
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby Ryne on Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:14 am

Thanks a lot
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:47 am

RobDavis wrote:You know i gotta use these for my college hoops roster

Rob are you going to just directly copy the players from the draft class?
Or Will you inflate ratings for yr 1 class (so they are college studs) and possibly taper the ratings down for the year 2 draft since they wouldn't be coming out yet?

I want to play with these draft classes in college but I don't want Year 2 players playing as studs at the same time as year 1 guys.

Maybe I will fix the college rosters to accurately reflect the classifications of each player in these draft classes.

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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby inzayn on Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:41 pm

any download link for this pls ??
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby trunkking11 on Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:29 pm

can you post download link sir?
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:34 pm

Download it from within the game
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby JEDL on Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:05 pm

Years 3 and 4 are complete!

TGsoGood wrote:JEDL
Any chance you can add Che, Frequency Vibrations, Shammy Wells and other MC characters in the next few draft classes?

I got Shammy Wells on Year 4 as requested. Still no idea how to recreate the other MC characters though. However, I might add the G-League teammates from 2K19...
RobDavis wrote:You know i gotta use these for my college hoops roster

Feel free my man! Can I just ask though: When you assign the players from the draft classes onto a college team on your roster, do you assign where you think they fit or is it random?
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Year 1 and 2 Complete)

Postby RobDavis on Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:23 am

JEDL wrote:Years 3 and 4 are complete!

TGsoGood wrote:JEDL
Any chance you can add Che, Frequency Vibrations, Shammy Wells and other MC characters in the next few draft classes?

I got Shammy Wells on Year 4 as requested. Still no idea how to recreate the other MC characters though. However, I might add the G-League teammates from 2K19...
RobDavis wrote:You know i gotta use these for my college hoops roster

Feel free my man! Can I just ask though: When you assign the players from the draft classes onto a college team on your roster, do you assign where you think they fit or is it random?


Yea I'll just assign it directly from the draft class randomly, or Ill start a myleague sim 5-7 years and import data that way.
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:40 am

I decided to take on the task of throwing some of the top prospects from each draft class and putting them all in one roster so that we can have a way to test the players in real gameplay before drafting them. This will allow us to see their animations and get a feel for the prospects prior to the draft.

I just completed the JEDL Year 1 team. Vid below.

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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby JEDL on Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:53 pm

TGsoGood wrote:I decided to take on the task of throwing some of the top prospects from each draft class and putting them all in one roster so that we can have a way to test the players in real gameplay before drafting them. This will allow us to see their animations and get a feel for the prospects prior to the draft.

I just completed the JEDL Year 1 team. Vid below.

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Damn, never thought my draft classes would be that recognized let alone be put into a video at some point. Thanks a lot man :D :D :D . I can testify with what you said in the vid, making these take a while to get done (it gets boring too so I listen to music/YouTube in the background).

In regards to the scouting reports, I've completely scrapped them. They barely got any attention when I first posted them, even on the Reddit post I did so I just gave up making more of them lol. Probably because this is on PC. I even got started with background stories. But yeah I'll give them another go if people insist.
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby Ryne on Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:31 pm

Gotta say though, thanks for taking the time to make these.

Four years worth of good draft classes will give me a lot of gameplay

Some of the players in year one are beasts, especially near the top end!
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:34 am

I just finished adding year 2 draft team in the Fictional Draft combine roster. I went back to read the player scouting reports from 2K19 thread and didn't realize how funny they were.

I hope to get the year 3 draft class prospects added tonight. I hope to have all 4 drafts covered by Thursday.
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:59 am

just finished the year 3 team. 1 more then the video and roster release.

should I include the last 2 or 3 most recent real draft classes from 2K's real historic drafts?
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby kidhybrid89 on Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:27 am

So weird question for ya. How many players should "stick" from the draft each year? Like how many players actually find a role in the NBA? Also making draft classes and I don't want to oversaturate the game with too many players.
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby NewJerseyNets on Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:16 am

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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby JEDL on Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:27 pm

kidhybrid89 wrote:So weird question for ya. How many players should "stick" from the draft each year? Like how many players actually find a role in the NBA? Also making draft classes and I don't want to oversaturate the game with too many players.


It really depends. I've seen some players who I thought would at least land a spot on a team get completely ignored on the FA pool while the opposite happens for other (subjectively) worse players. I made these draft classes in mind where you can almost utilize everyone if you try. The CPU can't obviously sign everyone so someone's bound to produce when given the chance or just stay in the Free Agency pool.

For instance, I got Scotty Holland (73 OVR) who is a long-range bombing spark plug rot in Free Agency for the 2020-2021 season but somehow Donta Wyatt (also 73 OVR) a post-up first PF (yes a PF who can't shoot) gets a nice cushion with a roster spot for his entire rookie contract.

I haven't gotten far with my draft classes yet (since I'm waiting for a good roster) but I'm sure saturation won't be a problem...well unless the 2K G-League bug wreaks havoc. You will notice Year 1 has lots of players with 80+ potential, but don't worry, I made sure some of them peak early or peak quickly (in other words, they're busts), while others have OVR's too low to even matter (the 66 OVRs all have Potentials over 80).

However, like I said, I haven't dived too far into MyLeague so oversaturation may happen but if it does please let me know and I'll make adjustments.
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:06 am

Just finished year 4 team. I should be able to design the jerseys and upload the roster before midnight.
I never received any feedback regarding real draft class teams so I will not worry about them at this time.

If anyone has a team design that I can use for the year 3 team and the year 4 team please let me know.
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby RobDavis on Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:25 am

Started importing these into my college roster yesterday im expecting it will take a few weeks to get all 83 teams done but i may get it done quicker.
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:03 am

Year 2 team video. Roster release is tomorrow with all 4 JEDL fictional draft class teams
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:01 am

The roster is out so you can test the prospects before drafting them.
It's called "Fictional Draft Combine"

This guy from JEDL's year 4 draft is a beast on the boards so far
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Re: JEDL's Fictional Draft Classes 2K20 (Years 1-4 Complete)

Postby TGsoGood on Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:35 am

Here is the video show casing the roster that I put together for JEDL's 4 draft classes.
This is kind of like having a draft combine in my mind. This will allow you to practice and scrimmage against other prospects prior to the draft
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