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You’re missing the forest for the trees and attacking a straw man. Nobody claimed it looks like those two projects INDIVIDUALLY, it’s that when used IN COMBINATION they produce essentially the Deibys effect. Just want to clarify that point because it’s not actually responsive to the criticism. Good luck with your project.

You’re missing the forest for the trees and attacking a straw man. Nobody claimed it looks like those two projects INDIVIDUALLY, it’s that when used IN COMBINATION they produce essentially the Deibys effect. Just want to clarify that point because it’s not actually responsive to the criticism. Good luck with your project.

since being asked to justify his work in this compilation of works from others, he just has published these comparisons
as you mention, with reshade, it's easy to achieve the same result. Perhaps he also uses sweetfx or reshade made by someone else .... after months of research

You’re missing the forest for the trees and attacking a straw man. Nobody claimed it looks like those two projects INDIVIDUALLY, it’s that when used IN COMBINATION they produce essentially the Deibys effect. Just want to clarify that point because it’s not actually responsive to the criticism. Good luck with your project.

since being asked to justify his work in this compilation of works from others, he just has published these comparisons
as you mention, with reshade, it's easy to achieve the same result. Perhaps he also uses sweetfx or reshade made by someone else .... after months of research

Yes, sure
has knowledge.....

And still no answer
what's YOUR work in "your" releases ?

Who are you seriously ? Would you compare your releases and mine ?

Of course I would. I created mods like Divide and Impera for TW:Rome 2, Better Combat for Dragon Age:Origins and Witcher 3, I've been the author and co-author of various ENB and Reshades for Skyrim (as Patrician's ENB for example) and collaborated on the Cathedral weather mod plus many other little mods for various games, ranging from full overhauls to small changes to lightning variations.

So yes, I would gladly compare your releases with mine if you must have an E-peen dispute on the matter. Even more I know firsthand what real theft of others' works is like as the aforementioned Better Combat overhaul for DA:O was taken practically verbatim and released by another author under another name, so I have a little of personal experience on what constitutes real stealing of others product versus simply using another mod's work as a base for individual modifications.

I tried a lot f things on 2K19 lighting, so dont act like a fanboy and tell me i have no minimal idea.

If you say things that make no sense then I will tell you that you have no idea of the context. Only someone that has no minimal clue of what s/he is talking about, in fact, would pretend that in a lightning mod the amount of time spent is tied to how many lines of code you change, instead of finding the correct mix of values to produce the desired effect. Only someone that has no clue of how editing files (especially when under an archive) actually work would take timestamps as a sure proof of a file not having been modified.

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If you want to be a fanboy go ahead. You’ve had an account for two weeks and you’re trying to tell people who have been here for years that they don’t know how the game works. The facts don’t lie.

Which "facts"? You stated that his work is a simple combination of two other mods WITH NO CHANGES and you then admitted - when challenged on such a statement - that this is not the case. Of course that the author's mod uses a combination of others' work as a base, since he himself openly state this, but this is a common modder practice and you yourself use others' works as a base for your own personal modifications.

This is a combination of others work, not some magical “2k14 global”. That’s basically what it comes down to, no transparency.

He stated since the beginning that his work has only to do with modifications in the variables concerning the lightning and you know this perfectly. Fact is that you don't like the methodology he used on releasing his work (and admittedly you can be right on this, albeit, as I've already stated, it is a common practice among the 2K YT community so it's not that he did something different than many in the community already do) and hence you think that this justifies any means on your part so that he cannot continue to do so. However - as I've already said - an evil action doesn't magically turn into a good one just because it is attached to a noble cause.

You’re missing the forest for the trees and attacking a straw man. Nobody claimed it looks like those two projects INDIVIDUALLY, it’s that when used IN COMBINATION they produce essentially the Deibys effect. Just want to clarify that point because it’s not actually responsive to the criticism. Good luck with your project.

I'm missing anything at all and you aren't making any sense whatsoever. Wherever I even remotely mentioned individual vs. composite changes is beyond me. The point is that you initially accused the OP to have simply mixed two other authors' works with NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER and released such combination as his own personal creation (so you literally accused him of stealing others' content) and that's a blatant lie (and in fact you yourself admitted to this not being the case).

If you cannot understand how much reprehensible such a behavior is then there's no meaningful dialogue to be had with you, I'm sorry.

Of course I would. I created mods like Divide and Impera for TW:Rome 2, Better Combat for Dragon Age:Origins and Witcher 3, I've been the author of various ENB and Reshades for Skyrim (as Patrician ENB) and collaborated on the Cathedral weather mod plus many other little mods for various games, ranging from full overhauls to small changes to lightning variations.

So yes, I would gladly compare your releases with mine, every day of the week..

I meaned your releases on NBA2K .... i mean i modded too on old racing games but who cares here....
but YOU accused us of lack of knowledge on NBA2K ; so what are your releases on NBA2K ?

If you say things that make no sense then I will tell you that you have no idea of the context. Only someone that has no minimal clue of what s/he is talking about, in fact, would pretend that in a lightning mod the amount of time spent is tied to how many lines of code you change, instead of finding the correct mix of values to produce the desired effect. Only someone that has no minimal clue of how files actually work would take timestamps as proof of a file not having been modified.

Bullshit. This guy came here showing HIS job, ask for clicking adlink, donations, YT channel subscription.
Some of us dig his releases and it clearly shows that it's a compilation of works from others, uncredited at the begining. Perhaps with SLIGHT changes, PERHAPS.
So, it's logic for us, as a community to ask him to clarify the situation. And he never answered. We dont ask each modifications for each files, but which files are from him.
We agree about time stamps, they arent a 100% proof but if he took time to change it, after not crediting the original author, his motivations are very questionnable.

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I meaned releases on NBA2K ....
because YOU accused us of lack of knowledge on NBA2K

No, I accused you of lack of knowledge on what are the things that take the most of time when producing a lightning mod. This is not something that's tied specifically to NBA 2K.

Bullshit. This guy came here showing HIS job, ask for clicking adlink, donations, YT channel subscription.

Admittedly bad practices but that are, sadly, the norm in the majority of the YT community in 2K. Still this doesn't justify lying about him.

Some of us dig his releases and it clearly shows that it's a compilation of works from others, uncredited at the begining. Perhaps with SLIGHT changes, PERHAPS.

Yet another lie that can be easily proven as such by simply looking back on the old thread. He always credited the works of others when releasing his variations. Are you seriously contesting the fact that he didn't provide credits when posting IMAGES of a wip product?

So, it's logic for us, as a community to ask him to clarify the situation. And he never answered. We dont ask each modifications for each files, but which files are from him.

I wouldn't reply either because your request of clarification comes from a bad place. You aren't asking him with a sincere intent, you just want to find something to accuse him of.

We agree about time stamps, they arent a 100% proof but if he took time to change it, after not crediting the original author, his motivations are very questionnable.

Because you are in his hearth so as to know perfectly his motivations, got it.

No, I accused you of lack of knowledge on what are the things that take the most of time when producing a lightning mod. This is not something that's tied specifically to NBA 2K.

So you're a moron because i told you what i did on 2K19.
Hex editing of postfx, editing lighting values of arenas scene files, modifying textures, this is how it works on 2K. There's no magic secret. It takes time to achieve a good result and find the good balance. But not 5 months when the game is out for 2, and when your work is mostly (entirely) based on releases from others.

Yet another lie that can be easily proven as such by simply looking back on the old thread. He always credited the works of others when releasing his variations. Are you seriously contesting the fact that he didn't provide credits when posting IMAGES of a wip product?

he put the credits AFTER. and on his YT channel, on Twitter, No mention.

I wouldn't reply either because your request of clarification comes from a bad place. You aren't asking him with a sincere intent, you just want to find something to accuse him of.

Why would we accuse him if we hadnt BIG suspicions ? i dont have to stole "his work" to release "mine".
So, NO, the bad place started with his maners.
Again, no explanation, no apology, only condescension.

Of course I would. I created mods like Divide and Impera for TW:Rome 2, Better Combat for Dragon Age:Origins and Witcher 3, I've been the author of various ENB and Reshades for Skyrim (as Patrician ENB) and collaborated on the Cathedral weather mod plus many other little mods for various games, ranging from full overhauls to small changes to lightning variations.

So yes, I would gladly compare your releases with mine, every day of the week..

I meaned your releases on NBA2K .... i mean i modded too on old racing games but who cares here....
but YOU accused us of lack of knowledge on NBA2K ; so what are your releases on NBA2K ?

If you say things that make no sense then I will tell you that you have no idea of the context. Only someone that has no minimal clue of what s/he is talking about, in fact, would pretend that in a lightning mod the amount of time spent is tied to how many lines of code you change, instead of finding the correct mix of values to produce the desired effect. Only someone that has no minimal clue of how files actually work would take timestamps as proof of a file not having been modified.

Bullshit. This guy came here showing HIS job, ask for clicking adlink, donations, YT channel subscription.
Some of us dig his releases and it clearly shows that it's a compilation of works from others, uncredited at the begining. Perhaps with SLIGHT changes, PERHAPS.
So, it's logic for us, as a community to ask him to clarify the situation. And he never answered. We dont ask each modifications for each files, but which files are from him.
We agree about time stamps, they arent a 100% proof but if he took time to change it, after not crediting the original author, his motivations are very questionnable.

What are you talking about, partner, from the beginning, always and giving credit to the author of the base files you are talking about? From the beginning he said the way of working the mods also who are you for me to have to give you explanations of what I do, besides you say that you are God creating good and you should know since I am working so do not tell lies because I always since at first I have given credit to the modden

No, I accused you of lack of knowledge on what are the things that take the most of time when producing a lightning mod. This is not something that's tied specifically to NBA 2K.

So you're a moron because i told you what i did on 2K19.
Hex editing of postfx, editing lighting values of arenas scene files, modifying textures, this is how it works on 2K. There's no magic secret. It takes time to achieve a good result and find the good balance. But not 5 months when the game is out for 2, and when your work is mostly (entirely) based on releases from others.

Yet another lie that can be easily proven as such by simply looking back on the old thread. He always credited the works of others when releasing his variations. Are you seriously contesting the fact that he didn't provide credits when posting IMAGES of a wip product?

he put the credits AFTER. and on his YT channel, on Twitter, No mention.

I wouldn't reply either because your request of clarification comes from a bad place. You aren't asking him with a sincere intent, you just want to find something to accuse him of.

Why would we accuse him if we hadnt BIG suspicions ? i dont have to stole "his work" to release "mine".
So, NO, the bad place started with his maners.
Again, no explanation, no apology, only condescension.

partner I know what I am doing and how I am doing it that easy I do not have to give explanations to you .... and improve your vocabulary when speaking to people .. other things by logic if my you tube channel is linked to my forum thread there are the credits to people who deserve it that simple it is logical for people to see the credits in the thread is logical

and the credits are from the beginning you are talking without base

No, I accused you of lack of knowledge on what are the things that take the most of time when producing a lightning mod. This is not something that's tied specifically to NBA 2K.

So you're a moron because i told you what i did on 2K19.
Hex editing of postfx, editing lighting values of arenas scene files, modifying textures, this is how it works on 2K. There's no magic secret. It takes time to achieve a good result and find the good balance. But not 5 months when the game is out for 2, and when your work is mostly (entirely) based on releases from others.

Yet another lie that can be easily proven as such by simply looking back on the old thread. He always credited the works of others when releasing his variations. Are you seriously contesting the fact that he didn't provide credits when posting IMAGES of a wip product?

he put the credits AFTER. and on his YT channel, on Twitter, No mention.

I wouldn't reply either because your request of clarification comes from a bad place. You aren't asking him with a sincere intent, you just want to find something to accuse him of.

Why would we accuse him if we hadnt BIG suspicions ? i dont have to stole "his work" to release "mine".
So, NO, the bad place started with his maners.
Again, no explanation, no apology, only condescension.

brother, you don't understand what I am saying is 5 months of work because I am a newbie and I have to investigate very well how the work is done in addition to the endless variations that we have to look for to find the desired tone or is that you do not see the amount of variations that I worked from the beginning to find the balance

head will explode from this thread

Where is the links? just adfly links and previews and more adfly links and more previews

everyone takes little from everyone to mod, no problem we don't need to be morale police, but this thread offers nothing now?

it's not about previews or youtube links or how many clicks or how many people donate, you must share first before reward brother..and you refuse to share the exact mod and refuse to explain how you achieve

What are you talking about, partner, from the beginning, always and giving credit to the author of the base files you are talking about? From the beginning he said the way of working the mods also who are you for me to have to give you explanations of what I do, besides you say that you are God creating good and you should know since I am working so do not tell lies because I always since at first I have given credit to the modden

however, i cant see any credit on the OP of this new thread, or on twitter.
You restarted a global lighting from scratch ?
BTW If any god existed, you would have a job and dont ask money for modding....

partner I know what I am doing and how I am doing it that easy I do not have to give explanations to you ....

Again i'm not your partner.
And yes, You have to give us explanations because of what you've done. Otherwise, we could do the same.
Use "your" work", change few values in few files, advertising and releasing it, forgetting at first to mention you, and asking for money.

brother, you don't understand what I am saying is 5 months of work because I am a newbie and I have to investigate very well how the work is done in addition to the endless variations that we have to look for to find the desired tone or is that you do not see the amount of variations that I worked from the beginning to find the balance

Again, i'm not your brother.
Looyh and MichaelLutz have released their stuff 1 month ago. 2K19 lighting is totally different. So you perhaps start to learn NBA2K lighting 5 months ago, but 5 months ago of work is all rubbish.

I'm done in this thread and with all your bullshits.

What are you talking about, partner, from the beginning, always and giving credit to the author of the base files you are talking about? From the beginning he said the way of working the mods also who are you for me to have to give you explanations of what I do, besides you say that you are God creating good and you should know since I am working so do not tell lies because I always since at first I have given credit to the modden

however, i cant see any credit on the OP of this new thread, or on twitter.
You restarted a global lighting from scratch ?
BTW If any god existed, you would have a job and dont ask money for modding....

partner I know what I am doing and how I am doing it that easy I do not have to give explanations to you ....

Again i'm not your partner.
And yes, You have to give us explanations because of what you've done. Otherwise, we could do the same.
Use "your" work", change few values in few files, advertising and releasing it, forgetting at first to mention you, and asking for money.

brother, you don't understand what I am saying is 5 months of work because I am a newbie and I have to investigate very well how the work is done in addition to the endless variations that we have to look for to find the desired tone or is that you do not see the amount of variations that I worked from the beginning to find the balance

Again, i'm not your brother.
Looyh and MichaelLutz have released their stuff 1 month ago. 2K19 lighting is totally different. So you perhaps start to learn NBA2K lighting 5 months ago, but 5 months ago of work is all rubbish.

I'm done in this thread and with all your bullshits.

I see you don't understand what I mean.
They are 5 months of work to be able to apply them in 2k20 and if I have also finished.

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where is the link mate?

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where is the link mate?

on the cover page
at the beginning of the thread

Great job ,v3 is perfect.

Clippers v3 download link not job,please fix.
More v3 courts please

Great job ,v3 is perfect.

Clippers v3 download link not job,please fix.
More v3 courts please

Great job ,v3 is perfect.

Clippers v3 download link not job,please fix.
More v3 courts please

The Clippers v3.1 court Crash for me with the load play game.

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The Clippers v3.1 court Crash for me with the load play game.

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It already works for you?

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