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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby YugoZLAv on Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:18 am

I have installed the latest version of Hook as per instructions (I pasted the files in the game directory, and in game it opens with F8, therefore i suppose I installed it correctly?). But I dont have the latest 1.08 patch installed, so that could be the problem...

Anyway thanks for the amazing mod man (Y) :bowdown2:
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby laroche23 on Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:09 am

@Seanbarkley did you also made some retro shoes ?has anyone screenshots?
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby flywithcaptmico on Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:23 am

Since that the new "CITY JERSEY" roster update has been up for our game, I gave it a try since Kyrie 6's are included on it.

By default, you won't be able to see the Kyrie 6 and the newly added jerseys. The problem here is that, the NBA2K-Hook by Looyh's setting has its "Mods takes precedence over SYNC.BIN & patch. If you have it disabled, the newly added shoes by 2k will apprear, though this will mess up Seanbarkley's shoe mod.

Only thing that will fix this is an update from Seanbarkley.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby seanbarkley on Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:48 am

I’ll do a quick update with the new added shoes on tomorrow

BTW, here's a preview of the 1st model I'll upload for donators: Kobe 4 Protro FTB

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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby Aston on Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:34 am

seanbarkley wrote:I’ll do a quick update with the new added shoes on tomorrow


You can use my screenshots for your first post if your want :lol:
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby gamingsinceatari1 on Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:15 pm

seanbarkley wrote:I’ll do a quick update with the new added shoes on tomorrow

BTW, here's a preview of the 1st model I'll upload for donators: Kobe 4 Protro FTB

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Fuck. I need these. I gotta find a way to donate, my PayPal is all sorts of messed up cause of a past dispute issue. :x
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby bluejaybrandon on Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:07 pm

Idk that previewing models that will be behind a paywall is a great idea. That’s starting to veer towards paid mods I think a little too much.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m more than happy donating to you for your awesome project, but future releases predicated on payment leaves too many people out in the cold and likely run contrary to the rules.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby seanbarkley on Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:21 pm

bluejaybrandon wrote:Idk that previewing models that will be behind a paywall is a great idea. That’s starting to veer towards paid mods I think a little too much.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m more than happy donating to you for your awesome project, but future releases predicated on payment leaves too many people out in the cold and likely run contrary to the rules.


After sharing for 2 years a mod with more than 750 modded shoes and hundreds (believe me it's been hundreds) of hours of work each I consider this a kind of unfair comment. I mean, do you really believe the versions I've released aren't big or good enough? I just wanted to be thankful with those who made the effort to donate by giving them away 5-6 models (out of 750!). But seriously, if it's something that bad I'll send the previews through PM.

1.1 version has been released. It includes those new shoes added in the last 2K update: Nike Kyrie 6, Nike Alphadunk, Kobe AD NXT Fast Fit and UA Spawn Low 2. More info and link in the 1st post
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby maumau78 on Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:26 pm

Amazing work!!!

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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby flywithcaptmico on Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:59 am

Thanks for the awesome update, as always!
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby gamingsinceatari1 on Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:01 am

bluejaybrandon wrote:Idk that previewing models that will be behind a paywall is a great idea. That’s starting to veer towards paid mods I think a little too much.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m more than happy donating to you for your awesome project, but future releases predicated on payment leaves too many people out in the cold and likely run contrary to the rules.


You're entitled to your opinion no doubt. But I disagree. I've seen a lot of great modders over the years quit for many reasons. One of them being related to how much time they had to put into it. If a small donation helps keeps some of these amazing modders around. Im more than happy to contribute. He's giving people who dont wanna donate free great content as well. To each is own. Nothing wrong with giving bonus content to those who decide to contribute more.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby pastrami1993 on Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:59 am

Hi, I'm kinda confused here since I've never installed a shoe mod before. I downloaded the layers file for 1.0 and put them into my existing global file easily enough. Now I just downloaded the 1.1 file with the "shoes" folder and "shoes_global.iff" file and I'm guessing I can drop these into my modded folder like any other mod.

I guess my question is that since the files in 1.1 wouldn't override any files I have in my modded folder, was there any point to me adding the layer files from 1.0 into my global? Sorry if this is a dumb question lol
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby bluejaybrandon on Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:13 am

seanbarkley wrote:
bluejaybrandon wrote:Idk that previewing models that will be behind a paywall is a great idea. That’s starting to veer towards paid mods I think a little too much.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m more than happy donating to you for your awesome project, but future releases predicated on payment leaves too many people out in the cold and likely run contrary to the rules.


After sharing for 2 years a mod with more than 750 modded shoes and hundreds (believe me it's been hundreds) of hours of work each I consider this a kind of unfair comment. I mean, do you really believe the versions I've released aren't big or good enough? I just wanted to be thankful with those who made the effort to donate by giving them away 5-6 models (out of 750!). But seriously, if it's something that bad I'll send the previews through PM.

1.1 version has been released. It includes those new shoes added in the last 2K update: Nike Kyrie 6, Nike Alphadunk, Kobe AD NXT Fast Fit and UA Spawn Low 2. More info and link in the 1st post


We all know what goes into making mods and the time it takes. Nobody is taking anything away from you and your dedication. I've spent countless hours making content for 2k games. But it's well established here that selling mods is not okay, so I'm just letting you know that donating for additional models may be approaching that threshold. Maybe a moderator can weigh in?


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bluejaybrandon wrote:Idk that previewing models that will be behind a paywall is a great idea. That’s starting to veer towards paid mods I think a little too much.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m more than happy donating to you for your awesome project, but future releases predicated on payment leaves too many people out in the cold and likely run contrary to the rules.


You're entitled to your opinion no doubt. But I disagree. I've seen a lot of great modders over the years quit for many reasons. One of them being related to how much time they had to put into it. If a small donation helps keeps some of these amazing modders around. Im more than happy to contribute. He's giving people who dont wanna donate free great content as well. To each is own. Nothing wrong with giving bonus content to those who decide to contribute more.


As I said above, I understand the time commitment that goes into modding. And I donate regularly to good creators. But that can't be the expectation because it seems like quasi-paid mods. The good modders will garner donations and quite frankly more people should donate, but exclusive content for donators feels like it violates the rules on paid mods. It boils down to "giving money = exclusive content". But I'm not a mod so maybe my judgment is off.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.0

Postby Marvin00 on Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:21 am

gamingsinceatari1 wrote: One of them being related to how much time they had to put into it.



I agree with that, this year i work night shift, i used to have 4-5 hours to make one shoes pattern, this year i dont have time to spare for making shoes like last year...

but i'm inspired by SeanBarkley, and also created many patterns that i did not have time to release in the summer..hopefully i can fix my pc soon and share everything :D
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby lesh0430 on Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:06 am

pastrami1993 wrote:Hi, I'm kinda confused here since I've never installed a shoe mod before. I downloaded the layers file for 1.0 and put them into my existing global file easily enough. Now I just downloaded the 1.1 file with the "shoes" folder and "shoes_global.iff" file and I'm guessing I can drop these into my modded folder like any other mod.

I guess my question is that since the files in 1.1 wouldn't override any files I have in my modded folder, was there any point to me adding the layer files from 1.0 into my global? Sorry if this is a dumb question lol


You don't need to though you can if you want to be sure I guess. I didn't as I noticed it was still the 1.0 layer file and I believe its all working fine lol
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby sitew33 on Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:23 am

I'm sorry but I'm of the opinion that releasing a project of 700+ shoe models, including unblocking color layers and being able to edit shoes like NB then giving a few models as a sign of appreciation to those who "CHOOSE" to donate is far from leaving people out in the cold. Everyone here has things they like and dislike about how one releases their mods but I believe members going onto a modders post to critique their methods creates an air of animosity. Andrew does a pretty good job of monitoring these post and addressing infractions. If SeanBarkley's donation shoe thing is against the rules he should be the one to address it because if Andrew decides that it's good then the modder may have a bad taste in his mouth about the member who addressed the issue. I guess it can be a slippery slope.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby bluejaybrandon on Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:57 am

sitew33 wrote:I'm sorry but I'm of the opinion that releasing a project of 700+ shoe models, including unblocking color layers and being able to edit shoes like NB then giving a few models as a sign of appreciation to those who "CHOOSE" to donate is far from leaving people out in the cold. Everyone here has things they like and dislike about how one releases their mods but I believe members going onto a modders post to critique their methods creates an air of animosity. Andrew does a pretty good job of monitoring these post and addressing infractions. If SeanBarkley's donation shoe thing is against the rules he should be the one to address it because if Andrew decides that it's good then the modder may have a bad taste in his mouth about the member who addressed the issue. I guess it can be a slippery slope.


Discussion does not equal animosity at all. We don’t all have to act like victims here all the time. People can be adults and discuss things that are relevant to the betterment of this community. I voiced an opinion and have since reached out to Andrew for further clarification. If I’m incorrect and donation exclusive content doesn’t approach a rule violation than I’ll gladly walk back my statements. I’m simply trying to determine the scope of the rules.

To me, this is no different than a user like Arteezy who has both free mods and paid mods. The free content is welcome here but creators with paid content have repeatedly been told it’s a violation of rules. I don’t see a differentiation between that and donation exclusive content but perhaps Andrew can clarify.

If that’s the case then I could release my draft class as only the lottery and the remaining prospects are donation exclusive. That just sounds like paid content with further steps. Nobody is arguing it’s not time consuming and a commitment, but that doesn’t somehow bestow a requirement of payment. Many people mod because they enjoy it and get nothing of monetary value in return. Paid mods have been discussed at length not his forum but the general consensus is that it’s a problem. If that’s changed then it’s something the community should be aware of.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby seanbarkley on Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:09 am

bluejaybrandon wrote:
sitew33 wrote:I'm sorry but I'm of the opinion that releasing a project of 700+ shoe models, including unblocking color layers and being able to edit shoes like NB then giving a few models as a sign of appreciation to those who "CHOOSE" to donate is far from leaving people out in the cold. Everyone here has things they like and dislike about how one releases their mods but I believe members going onto a modders post to critique their methods creates an air of animosity. Andrew does a pretty good job of monitoring these post and addressing infractions. If SeanBarkley's donation shoe thing is against the rules he should be the one to address it because if Andrew decides that it's good then the modder may have a bad taste in his mouth about the member who addressed the issue. I guess it can be a slippery slope.


Discussion does not equal animosity at all. We don’t all have to act like victims here all the time. People can be adults and discuss things that are relevant to the betterment of this community. I voiced an opinion and have since reached out to Andrew for further clarification. If I’m incorrect and donation exclusive content doesn’t approach a rule violation than I’ll gladly walk back my statements. I’m simply trying to determine the scope of the rules.

To me, this is no different than a user like Arteezy who has both free mods and paid mods. The free content is welcome here but creators with paid content have repeatedly been told it’s a violation of rules. I don’t see a differentiation between that and donation exclusive content but perhaps Andrew can clarify.

If that’s the case then I could release my draft class as only the lottery and the remaining prospects are donation exclusive. That just sounds like paid content with further steps. Nobody is arguing it’s not time consuming and a commitment, but that doesn’t somehow bestow a requirement of payment. Many people mod because they enjoy it and get nothing of monetary value in return. Paid mods have been discussed at length not his forum but the general consensus is that it’s a problem. If that’s changed then it’s something the community should be aware of.


This is the last thing I will tell about this, but sincerely call 6-7 shoes out of 1500 (750 each year) feels like an insult.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby seanbarkley on Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:11 am

bluejaybrandon wrote:
sitew33 wrote:I'm sorry but I'm of the opinion that releasing a project of 700+ shoe models, including unblocking color layers and being able to edit shoes like NB then giving a few models as a sign of appreciation to those who "CHOOSE" to donate is far from leaving people out in the cold. Everyone here has things they like and dislike about how one releases their mods but I believe members going onto a modders post to critique their methods creates an air of animosity. Andrew does a pretty good job of monitoring these post and addressing infractions. If SeanBarkley's donation shoe thing is against the rules he should be the one to address it because if Andrew decides that it's good then the modder may have a bad taste in his mouth about the member who addressed the issue. I guess it can be a slippery slope.


Discussion does not equal animosity at all. We don’t all have to act like victims here all the time. People can be adults and discuss things that are relevant to the betterment of this community. I voiced an opinion and have since reached out to Andrew for further clarification. If I’m incorrect and donation exclusive content doesn’t approach a rule violation than I’ll gladly walk back my statements. I’m simply trying to determine the scope of the rules.

To me, this is no different than a user like Arteezy who has both free mods and paid mods. The free content is welcome here but creators with paid content have repeatedly been told it’s a violation of rules. I don’t see a differentiation between that and donation exclusive content but perhaps Andrew can clarify.

If that’s the case then I could release my draft class as only the lottery and the remaining prospects are donation exclusive. That just sounds like paid content with further steps. Nobody is arguing it’s not time consuming and a commitment, but that doesn’t somehow bestow a requirement of payment. Many people mod because they enjoy it and get nothing of monetary value in return. Paid mods have been discussed at length not his forum but the general consensus is that it’s a problem. If that’s changed then it’s something the community should be aware of.


This is the last thing I will tell about this, but sincerely, call ”paid content” or “leave in the cold” 6-7 shoes out of 1500 (750 each year) feels like an insult to me.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby petervalluyas on Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:14 am

I already downloaded ver 1.1 but I can't find KOBE 4 PROTRO FTB... Someone help me
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby cujomatty on Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:39 am

petervalluyas wrote:I already downloaded ver 1.1 but I can't find KOBE 4 PROTRO FTB... Someone help me


I couldn’t either. I think it’s because of the Hook program but I may have just got lucky. What I did was start game, open Hook and uncheck the use mods over sync bin in settings and apply and save in hook. Then restart the game. I then checked and saw the Kobe’s and other shoes in 1.1. I then opened hook again and rechecked that use mods over sync bin setting, hit save and apply in hook and restarted game again. They were now there for myGM and MyLeague.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby flywithcaptmico on Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:15 am

Just a question though, since that the shoe update with the Kyrie 6s, etc., only works with "use mods over sync bin" option, how will we be able to use the "city jersey update" from the newly released roster by 2k?
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby seanbarkley on Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:04 pm

flywithcaptmico wrote:Just a question though, since that the shoe update with the Kyrie 6s, etc., only works with "use mods over sync bin" option, how will we be able to use the "city jersey update" from the newly released roster by 2k?


I don’t know if I’m understanding the question right but from what I guess my shoe file just overrides the SHOE files inside sync, but the rest of the files inside sync, like uniforms, should remain intact.
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby flywithcaptmico on Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:08 pm

seanbarkley wrote:
flywithcaptmico wrote:Just a question though, since that the shoe update with the Kyrie 6s, etc., only works with "use mods over sync bin" option, how will we be able to use the "city jersey update" from the newly released roster by 2k?


I don’t know if I’m understanding the question right but from what I guess my shoe file just overrides the SHOE files inside sync, but the rest of the files inside sync, like uniforms, should remain intact.


EDIT: Working now. Just messed up my configurations. Thanks man! :bowdown:
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Re: [seanbarkley] KICKSOLOGY 2K20 1.1

Postby connseanery on Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:49 pm

Hmmm ... I don't see the new shoes added with 1.1 for some reason. Any special procedure for people that already installed 1.0?

Is the 1.1 file supposed to have 612 shoes also?
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