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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby zetsuboushta on Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:50 pm

Found that in sliders thread, check this please.
https://youtu.be/5eyejvWaCVA
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby SergioGCD on Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:35 pm

More stuff regarding positions:

Josh Richardson should be SG/PG instead of PG
Adebayo should be PF/C instead of C/PF. Meyers Leonard is the starting C for the Heat.
Kendrick Nunn should be PG/SG instead of SG/PG. He is the starting PG.
Rozier shoudl be SG/PG instead of PG/SG. Graham is the starting PG while Rozier plays as a starting SG.
VanVleet should be SG/PG instead of PG/SG as he starts next to Lowry.
PJ Tucker should be C/PF.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:39 pm

zetsuboushta wrote:Found that in sliders thread, check this please.
https://youtu.be/5eyejvWaCVA


I saw them already or more i have them unlocked already.
But i'm not that aware for every team how i should set the hidden sliders up to get the most accurate.

If some people wanna try to adjust them correctly i would add that changes in a later update or just share the file so they can add it by themself.

But what i did alongside some PoE and coaches sliders was to play with the offensive tempo.
So teams like the 76ers, Kings, Warriors should now noticeably run and pass around the ball faster as like teams as the Hornets, Jazz or Pistons.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby MonkeymanJSV on Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:47 pm

Hey im just wondering what these ratings are based off, because according to this roster tatum and lou williams are the same overall
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:53 pm

SergioGCD wrote:More stuff regarding positions:

Josh Richardson should be SG/PG instead of PG
Adebayo should be PF/C instead of C/PF. Meyers Leonard is the starting C for the Heat.
Kendrick Nunn should be PG/SG instead of SG/PG. He is the starting PG.
Rozier shoudl be SG/PG instead of PG/SG. Graham is the starting PG while Rozier plays as a starting SG.
VanVleet should be SG/PG instead of PG/SG as he starts next to Lowry.
PJ Tucker should be C/PF.


About Richardson i know he should be SG but Milton will be the new Starter at SG and i just made Richardson PG because i needed a backup for Simmons.
Yeah Bam is more of a PF this season instead of a C. Yup Leonard is my starting C as well for the Heat.
Tucker is a tough one. I noticed that RoCo is doing the Tip Offs and the Rockets said already they will use the camp to fit him better in the system. So i might will keep that as it is.
VanVleet was a accident lol. He should be the starter instead of Powell. Its even recognizable by the assigned minutes to him and Powell.
And Rozier its the same with Tucker. I was changing this back and forth which position i should put them in. But i will change Rozier as well.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby MonkeymanJSV on Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:53 pm

and also al horford being an 86 when statistically its his worst season to date
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:58 pm

MonkeymanJSV wrote:Hey im just wondering what these ratings are based off, because according to this roster tatum and lou williams are the same overall


I haven't touched the ratings yet at all. I noticed already some crazy ratings but i guess that came from just removing some badges from the players.
I started already to copy the attributes from the last 2k Update over to this roster. I hope this will fix some of these weird overalls.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby MonkeymanJSV on Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:59 pm

Ohhh my bad I wasn’t aware it not that far along with yet. That’s fair then man keep up the good work the rest was cool
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:05 pm

MonkeymanJSV wrote:Ohhh my bad I wasn’t aware it not that far along with yet. That’s fair then man keep up the good work the rest was cool


No problem mate. Feedback is always appreciated.
I'm testing the Sixers right now if Horford will drop now to 82 like he is rated in the last 2k update.
If this will work, i will copy all attributes from that roster over to mine. It should boost then Tatum as well around the 90s or maybe all players will go down thanks to the removed badges :lol:
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:42 pm

Okay i tested it with the whole 76ers team and Tatum.
It's a mix of outdated attributes and removed badges.

2k Roster - MyRoster
Embiid 91 Embiid 90
Horford 82 Horford 86
Tatum 88 Tatum 83

after i copied the attributes from the 2k Roster:

Embiid 89 (-1)
Horford 81 (-5)
Tatum 86 (+3)

So maybe we can start here something for Players that needs an upgrade or downgrade and i will see what i can copy over as total Overall.
I kept Horford and Tatum of course like they turned out now.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:08 pm

Okay also i found out not all player are updated if it comes to the badges. I will look into that.
I just assigned and switchted (quality) badges fror Ben Simmons and he moved up +1
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby TGsoGood on Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:39 pm

I found a work around for adding more players to a team but its a waste of time. The game will remove extra players from the team once you go into season or myleague.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:59 pm

TGsoGood wrote:I found a work around for adding more players to a team but its a waste of time. The game will remove extra players from the team once you go into season or myleague.


Ah sh...but thank you TS!

Speaking of waste of time...I just noticed it's not that ideal to start off with the work that is so outdated ect.

So i deceided to release a for at now final version BUT i will totally restart this project nearly from scratch (i will keep my coaches changes etc.) so from the then up to date 2k roster file in about three weeks.
In three weeks i will be on vacation but thanks to Covid i have nothing scheduled.
Yes i still will have to do some other work at home BUT i will have plenty of time and passion to start this from the bottom again and then in an own thread.

In the meantime it would be cool if we still collect feedback here to get the best possible project then rolling in three weeks.

So in about a couple of minutes i will post what i have done since yesterday and post also a offline link.
I hope you will still enjoy the new update.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby SergioGCD on Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:12 am

It's pretty normal that centers' ratings are OP compared with players from other positions. This is due 2k using an old ratings formula based on the time when centers dominated the game.

Basically the game boosts centers overall rating because it gives a lot of importance to some atributes as rebounding, etc.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:27 am

UPDATE 1.1. is now available on 2k Share

Update 1.1. includes:

Head Coach grades update
Head Coach sliders and PoE (credits to AntDoggyDogg) adjustments
All Playbooks have been updated
Fixed an issue with the Trail Blazer rotation (always asked to rebuild the rotation)
Transactions till 6/28 (Theo Pinson to Knicks) except for Trey Burke (Mavs) and Jerian Grant (Wizards) thanks to the team roster limit)

Player position changes for:
Luka Doncic from SF/PG to PG/SF
Brandon Clarke from SF/SG to PF/SF
Bruce Brown from SG/SF to SG/PG
Terry Rozier from PG/SG to SG/PG
Fred VanVleet from PG/SG to SG/PG and is now a Starter
Bam Adebayo from C/PF to PF/C
Kendrick Nunn from SG/PG to PG/SG
Jason Tatum from PF/SG to PF/SF

Player ratings updates:
Al Horford
Ben Simmons
Tobias Harris
Shake Milton
Jason Tatum


Thanks for the feedback at SergioGCD, zetsuboushta, MonkeymanJSV and for the effort TGsoGood!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2lqbcb0lx ... .1.7z/file
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby janwick on Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:35 am

Rockness wrote:UPDATE 1.1. is now available on 2k Share

Update 1.1. includes:

Head Coach grades update
Head Coach sliders and PoE (credits to AntDoggyDogg) adjustments
All Playbooks have been updated
Fixed an issue with the Trail Blazer rotation (always asked to rebuild the rotation)
Transactions till 6/28 (Theo Pinson to Knicks) except for Trey Burke (Mavs) and Jerian Grant (Wizards) thanks to the team roster limit)

Player position changes for:
Luka Doncic from SF/PG to PG/SF
Brandon Clarke from SF/SG to PF/SF
Bruce Brown from SG/SF to SG/PG
Terry Rozier from PG/SG to SG/PG
Fred VanVleet from PG/SG to SG/PG and is now a Starter
Bam Adebayo from C/PF to PF/C
Kendrick Nunn from SG/PG to PG/SG
Jason Tatum from PF/SG to PF/SF

Player ratings updates:
Al Horford
Ben Simmons
Tobias Harris
Shake Milton
Jason Tatum


Thanks for the feedback at SergioGCD, zetsuboushta, MonkeymanJSV and for the effort TGsoGood!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2lqbcb0lx ... .1.7z/file


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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby creweutah on Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:15 am

Great work. Just a question, is the roster ready for a ML? Are all tendencies done etc?

Love your work mate. How can I import the roster?? New to 2K on PC :)
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:44 am

creweutah wrote:Great work. Just a question, is the roster ready for a ML? Are all tendencies done etc?

Love your work mate. How can I import the roster?? New to 2K on PC :)


Thanks! Yes you can play ML with it. The tendencies are outdated like back from October or so.
Import in the game or the file from the offline link?

In game you will be asked before starting ML which roster you want to use.
If it's about the downloaded file then you need to put it into your steam remote local file store, where your other saves from 2k20 should been.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:04 am

TGsoGood wrote:I found a work around for adding more players to a team but its a waste of time. The game will remove extra players from the team once you go into season or myleague.


It looks like we don't need any tool, method or help here.

My timing for taking a break is just perfect.
I noticed today that 2k updated the roster already.
Burke is on the Mavs as hardship now same for Grant on the Wizards. Tyler Johnson is also on the Nets roster just Broekhoeff is not with the 76ers yet.
Oh and of course Pinson is also not a Knick yet.

So i guess we just have to wait for 2k to bring out the roster updates.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:45 pm

Small Update for the project

I just bought for 5€ 2k20 for the Xbox.
So i will look into a roster like Hyperballer & DCAllAmerican's to get those PoEs and also looking for a great roster if it comes to Staff likeness.
If i remember correct there was also a ATD port for Xbox so i will also search for that.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby SergioGCD on Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:34 pm

For me the best roster out there is always Rashidi's (@Real2kInsider on Twitter and PSN) a guy from OS that has been doing rosters for a long time there. Atributes wise his rosters are always spot on but I think he doesn't usually edit t
Playbooks and that stuff so his roster could be a base layer with the atributes and then import ATD stuff to It.

He is on PS4 tho, so I don't know if you could get It.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:56 pm

SergioGCD wrote:For me the best roster out there is always Rashidi's (@Real2kInsider on Twitter and PSN) a guy from OS that has been doing rosters for a long time there. Atributes wise his rosters are always spot on but I think he doesn't usually edit tendencies and that stuff so his roster could be a base layer with the atributes and then import ATD stuff to It.

He is on PS4 tho, so I don't know if you could get It.


No way i will going to buy a PS4 now :lol: But who knows maybe someone converted it to Xbox but maybe not. OS members are always hyped for Hype and DC's roster.
And those rosters are really nice. It's a totally difference because they have their own rating system but even at looks first unrealistic it's really fun to play with those rosters.

Speaking of PoEs. They look overrated to me. I tried it now on one Team with several adjustments, changes and to me it look like the AI always reset the PoE's to default ones if you playing a game.
I used the Warriors just to bury down threes after threes with the Splash bros.
In real life a coach would then take the perimeter away but of course not in 2k :D
Same was for the start of the game. I put the PoEs on the other poor Hornets team to defend the perimeter right away the tip-off BUT they just defended everything but not really had their focus on the perimeter as it should be.

So maybe the PoEs are more just for the team chemistry / coach fit in inside a ML or so.
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:57 am

So i've been through a lot of great rosters on Xbox but i don't think i found a perfect one that will fit in for the PoEs.
So i deceided to do it at least some on my own based from game replays, touches and usage of players etc.

First thing i would do, to discuss my choices for the coaches sliders / PoEs - Offensive Focus
Here are my suggestions:

76ers, Bucks (or Get Shooters Open) - Play Through Star
Bulls, Cavs (or Neutral), Celtics - Get Shooters Open
Clippers (or Get Shooters Open), Grizzlies (or Pick And Roll) - Play Through Star
Hawks (or Play Through Star or Pick And Roll), Heat (or Neutral), Hornets - Get Shooters Open
Jazz (or Play Through Star) - Pick And Roll
Kings (or Neutral) - Get Shooters Open
Knicks - No Preference (sorry haven't watched one game of the Knicks under Mike Miller this season)
Lakers - Play Through Star
Magic (or Get Shooters Open) - Feed The Post
Mavs, Nets (Once KD and Kyrie will be back for sure) - Play Through Star
Nuggets (or Pick And Roll), Pacers (or Neutral) - Get Shooters Open
Pelicans (or Get Shooters Open) - Play Through Star
Pistons - Feed The Post
Raptors (or Neutral) - Get Shooters Open
Rockets - Play Through Star
Spurs (or Get Shooters Open) - Pick And Roll
Suns - Get Shooters Open
Thunder - Pick And Roll
Timberwolves (or Feed The Post or Pick And Roll), Trail Blazers - Play Through Star
Warriors - Get Shooters Open
Wizards - Play Through Star

You agree or have other opinons?

To get this straight right away, i live in Germany i try to watch as many Heat and Spurs (always tough for me if they play at home or not on the Eastcoast) games live over decades now that i can.
I don't see many other teams maybe just once maybe twice a year, watch just the early sunday games from other teams if they don't cross paths with Cowboys Football games lol so i know my suggestions cannot be 100% correct or accepted by let's say every hard core fan of every team.
But therfore let's talk about it and change it the right way :)
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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Uncle Drew on Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:19 am

Rockness wrote:UPDATE 1.1. is now available on 2k Share

Update 1.1. includes:

Head Coach grades update
Head Coach sliders and PoE (credits to AntDoggyDogg) adjustments
All Playbooks have been updated
Fixed an issue with the Trail Blazer rotation (always asked to rebuild the rotation)
Transactions till 6/28 (Theo Pinson to Knicks) except for Trey Burke (Mavs) and Jerian Grant (Wizards) thanks to the team roster limit)

Player position changes for:
Luka Doncic from SF/PG to PG/SF
Brandon Clarke from SF/SG to PF/SF
Bruce Brown from SG/SF to SG/PG
Terry Rozier from PG/SG to SG/PG
Fred VanVleet from PG/SG to SG/PG and is now a Starter
Bam Adebayo from C/PF to PF/C
Kendrick Nunn from SG/PG to PG/SG
Jason Tatum from PF/SG to PF/SF

Player ratings updates:
Al Horford
Ben Simmons
Tobias Harris
Shake Milton
Jason Tatum


Thanks for the feedback at SergioGCD, zetsuboushta, MonkeymanJSV and for the effort TGsoGood!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2lqbcb0lx ... .1.7z/file



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Re: Attention to Detail Roster (by CelticLG) - PC Version!

Postby Rockness on Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:54 pm

[/quote]What name is under on 2Kshare?[/quote]

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