center court logo request

[[Stove]]

I'm having a lot of trouble making this center court logo.


I got everything down for it except the lettering (and the smaller stars, but I can do the stars myself). I cannot get this lettering to look right for the life of me, specifically the Texas part. If anyone can get this to look correct for me I will love you. It's the last thing I need before releasing this Spurs pack. Any help would be vastly appreciated.

Center Court Logo PSD ---> https://mega.nz/file/YFg0HIyT#w4gFXMAga ... usp9kiihwk

[mking2]

You might have to do the letters individually and the copy and paste them and resize and alter them as you go that be the easiest way , I try to see if I can do something with it tomorrow

[[Stove]]

You might have to do the letters individually and the copy and paste them and resize and alter them as you go that be the easiest way , I try to see if I can do something with it tomorrow

That would be awesome. Thank you.

[Dee4Three]

Here, I took this from the center court of the 1985 Spurs court from 2K13/2K14



https://www.mediafire.com/view/ye4fpbtn ... o.jpg/file

Here is the 1985 spurs court (being used in Thunder Shaqs roster, and my 2K17 roster as well. I believe this was retromans original work)



https://www.mediafire.com/file/mcin3xrf ... s.iff/file

Not sure if this helps, but figured I would share.

[[Stove]]

Here, I took this from the center court of the 1985 Spurs court from 2K13/2K14

[ Image ]

https://www.mediafire.com/view/ye4fpbtn ... o.jpg/file

Here is the 1985 spurs court (being used in Thunder Shaqs roster, and my 2K17 roster as well. I believe this was retromans original work)

[ Image ]

https://www.mediafire.com/file/mcin3xrf ... s.iff/file

Not sure if this helps, but figured I would share.

THAT"S IT! Thank you! Literally the exact court I'm making. They used it in the 70's too, which is the era from the jerseys I'm making for their Hardwood Classics stuff. Goes perfect with the color scheme. Thank you again.

[sticky-fingers]

Here, I took this from the center court of the 1985 Spurs court from 2K13/2K14

[ Image ]

https://www.mediafire.com/view/ye4fpbtn ... o.jpg/file

Here is the 1985 spurs court (being used in Thunder Shaqs roster, and my 2K17 roster as well. I believe this was retromans original work)

[ Image ]

https://www.mediafire.com/file/mcin3xrf ... s.iff/file

Not sure if this helps, but figured I would share.

Again... and this time crediting another guy

[Dee4Three]

I am using that same court for the 83 spurs in 2K17, which I converted from 2K14 after getting permission. I thought it was the same exact court, I didnt realize you made it (it's a one texture court, it's the big76ers file)

You know me a lot better than that, I would never give improper credit knowingly. If you made it, thank you, you deserve credit. If you converted from 2K14 like I did, again you deserve credit for the conversion and the original creator deserves credit for the art.

I was trying to be helpful, no intentional harm here.

[sticky-fingers]

I didnt make any court for 2K14 and i didnt use 2K14 court as a template and the version you've post isnt the same you use in your 2k17 mod.
Both images come from my court, you can recognize the scratches and white effect.

The problem acting like that, is that Stove, like skoadam on UBR thread before, think he could go ahead and release it freely.

[Dee4Three]

I didnt make any court for 2K14 and i didnt use 2K14 court as a template and the version you've post isnt the same you use in your 2k17 mod.
Both images come from my court, you can recognize the scratches and white effect.

The problem acting like that, is that Stove, like skoadam on UBR thread before, think he could go ahead and release it freely.

He is not at fault here. I am for assuming, and by assuming I shared. That is on me.

I have been staring at my CPU day in and day out for hours, and have noticed the uptick in activity here on the NLSC because of the pandemic, and felt like trying to be more helpful. Clearly didnt mean harm, it doesn't benefit me.

I apologize.

[sticky-fingers]

Not your fault Dee, but whatever you shared the "author" of the mod is to blame.
the less thing would have to ask me and Stove didnt do that.

9. Credit must always be given when using someone else's work in a patch or mod, unless a user has specifically stated that their work is open source and/or no credit is required. Ideally, you should also ask permission first, as someone members are not comfortable with their work being modified or used in other projects.

I used the WARN function of the forum hours ago but it seems that the Admins dont care. If its a new tolerance in this community, ok lets go party.
Lets modify all the mods (rosters, courts, faces, portraits, scoreboards) and release it without any credit and permissions...

[Dee4Three]

I sent a message to Stove asking him to ask permission and give credit on his thread. I am the one who started this, I am at fault.

I'm just waiting on him to respond. He never would have had the file had I not shared it. Again, big misunderstanding and an obvious accident with no malicious intent on my part.

Please give him a chance to respond. This isnt on the admins, either. This is a completely new situation that just came up, and I am sure it will be acted on when time permits.

[sticky-fingers]

I just want he remove my stuff from his pack.

[Andrew]

I used the WARN function of the forum hours ago but it seems that the Admins dont care. If its a new tolerance in this community, ok lets go party.
Lets modify all the mods (rosters, courts, faces, portraits, scoreboards) and release it without any credit and permissions...

No, that isn't the case. However, it's only appropriate to let people sort things out without constant and immediate intervention on our part, so that people don't feel like they're walking on eggshells. I'd rather not treat people like children or come down like a tonne of bricks on people when it isn't necessary, such as when there's been a misunderstanding like this. People deserve a chance to be informed of the situation, and make it right by either seeking permission, or simply removing the work as you would prefer in this case. I would hope that once Stove logs in and is up to speed on the situation, it will be put right and that court removed ASAP. If not, that's when I'll intervene because your reasonable request won't have been respected and followed. It's only fair that Stove has a chance to fix the situation given the circumstances, just as it's only fair that you're asking him to remove your work.

Reporting a post lets us know that there's a situation to monitor and take action on as necessary. If it's sorted out without the need for us to intervene, then great; ideally, that's how it should be when there are disagreements and honest mistakes in modding, and people are willing to do the right thing after messing up. If a situation needs immediate intervention, or if a situation can't be resolved quickly, properly, and peacefully, that's when we'll step in. It's not about letting people get away with stuff, it's about giving them a chance to receive the complaint and make amends. If it was intentionally stolen work, it'd be different and I'd be issuing a warning much quicker. When there's a honest mistake as there obviously was here, I'll give someone an ample chance to do the right thing before I go off on them.

We do want to be fair and consistent with the rules, but that also means handling things on a case-by-case basis and considering the context of the situation. Using work that you've been sent by someone else with the understanding you've got full permission to use it, but haven't because there's been a mix-up, isn't the same as intentionally taking someone's work without asking and not giving credit. We're not going to be heavy-handed with the former, while the latter would demand more forceful intervention out of the gate. The same would go for refusing to comply with a request in the first case, but people need a chance to respond first.

[Dee4Three]

Sticky, this is the court I THOUGHT I was sharing, yours is higher quality, but in the act of trying to be helpful I didn't take a close enough look at it. This court is from the UBR/URB, and I converted to 2K17 after getting permission from Retroman.



Here is a gameplay video I made of it on 2K17

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With all of this going on, and just to be sure, I am going to reach out to retroman again as I believe his signature was on the end of the court before I converted it, and I will ask him permission to see if I can share it now that I just converted it to 2K20. He has always said yes (Enthusiastically) when I have asked his permission to use courts. If he gives me the okay to share, that doesn't mean that Stove can just use it without giving credit. I don't want that to get lost here, often times creators are happy with CREDIT (Like you have been, Sticky). Right now, that credit is missing from Stoves thread. So Stove, if I get permission to share the Spurs court I just converted, you must give credit in your thread to retroman for the use of that court.

Is this helpful? Or am I confusing things more. It was an honest mistake and I started it, I can't apologize anymore. I can only try to right the wrong.

[[Stove]]

woah. . . I was under the impression that the center court logo I used was from in-game 2k13 or 14. I am so sorry! I would have never used the center court logo if I knew it was someone else's. sticky-fingers, I am sorry man I had no idea. I will remove the HWC from my pack immediately. Sorry for all the commotion. I legit thought it was from in-game older 2k.

[[Stove]]

[Dee4Three]

woah. . . I was under the impression that the center court logo I used was from in-game 2k13 or 14. I am so sorry! I would have never used the center court logo if I knew it was someone else's. sticky-fingers, I am sorry man I had no idea. I will remove the HWC from my pack immediately. Sorry for all the commotion. I legit thought it was from in-game older 2k.

It's not your fault, its mine for sharing it to begin with. If retroman gives permission you can use the one I showed above. I think he is the originator of the court I just showed a video of.

Was just trying to be helpful. Didnt realize the court I was sharing wasnt the one I converted for 2K17.

[[Stove]]

woah. . . I was under the impression that the center court logo I used was from in-game 2k13 or 14. I am so sorry! I would have never used the center court logo if I knew it was someone else's. sticky-fingers, I am sorry man I had no idea. I will remove the HWC from my pack immediately. Sorry for all the commotion. I legit thought it was from in-game older 2k.

It's not your fault, its mine for sharing it to begin with. If retroman gives permission you can use the one I showed above. I think he is the originator of the court I just showed a video of.

Was just trying to be helpful. Didnt realize the court I was sharing wasnt the one I converted for 2K17.

It's all good. No harm no foul.

[hova-]

How far has the community come? I mean, I understand you want credits for you work since it takes a lot of time.

But the pride over here annoys me. I've never been into editing before, now I started making Cyberfaces and I just release them and everybody should use them wherever they want. It's cool to get credits, but tbh, this is a small nerdy internet community and I have zero pride on this anonymous internet platform. I am grateful that we share this hobby and that we have so many modders who make this game better. And I always tried to pass my knowledge about roster editing or other stuff before just to help others making the game better.

But the fuck, more and more people want money for their contributions, offer insecure ad-plagues links or feel like they need credit in a community that should be a about giving and taking. This is not a free market capitalist entreprise homepage.

Summarized: Yes, giving credits to the right people is obligatory. If you feel like the wrong persons were credited or you should have been credited - talk to the guys and don't force them to not use your great stuff. In the end your creating it for improving the game and helping the community.