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Ultimate Retro Roster 2k19- Thunder Shaq (WIP)

Postby Thunder Shaq on Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:00 am

Hey everyone, I am a long-time lurker that is finally hoping to contribute to the community. As a disclaimer, I have to share that I am brand new to 2k on PC for this gen. I played 2k10-2k14 (played 2k14 through around June 2016 before moving to Xbox). As part of a college graduation gift, I will finally have a PC good enough to play 2k and will make my long awaited return to PC and modding.

I have spent the bulk of the 2k17-2k19 on Xbox making retro rosters for console players which included many limitations. I have documented my specific year rosters (1998, 2007, 2010, 2013, and 2016) on my YouTube channel which is linked below. The roster that I will outline in this post is one that I have made for Xbox to a certain extent and is one that I will want to start working on when I officially move to PC next month. From the context above, you can tell that I am not very old, which is going to be proven further with the selection of teams on this roster. My selections may be a bit post-2000s biased as that is the era I am most familiar with. I am not entirely sure how super detailed I will be with this roster, but I always put in the work on these for authenticity.

I have important information at the end of this post.

Here is the breakdown of teams I plan to create for this roster:

76ers: 1977, 1983 (all-time slot), 2001, 2006 (current slot)

Bucks: 1971, 1984, 2001 (all-time slot), 2013 (current slot)

Bulls: 1986,1989,1991,1993,1996,1998, 2007 (current slot), 2009 (all-time slot), 2011

Cavaliers: 1990, 2007, 2010 (current slot), 2016 (all-time slot)

Celtics: 1965, 1986, 1992 (all-time slot), 2008, 2011 (current slot)

Clippers: 2006 (current slot), 2014 (all-time slot)

Grizzlies: 2006, 2011 (all-time slot), 2013, 2015 (current slot)

Hawks: 1986, 2010 (current slot), 2015 (all-time slot)

Heat: 1994 (all-time slot), 1997, 2006, 2013, 2011 (current slot)

Hornets: 1993, 2002 (all-time slot), 2010 (current slot)

Jazz: 1998, 2010 (current slot)

Kings: 2001 (all-time slot), 2002, 2006 (current slot)

Knicks: 1972, 1995, 1999, 2004 (current slot), 2011 (all-time slot), 2013 (2012 slot)

Lakers: 1965, 1971, 1987, 1998, 2001, 2004, 2010 (all-time slot), 2013 (current slot)

Magic: 1995, 2002 (all-time slot), 2009 (current slot)

Mavericks: 1988 (all-time slot), 2003, 2006 (current slot), 2011

Nets: 1993 (all-time slot), 2002, 2014 (current slot)

Nuggets: 1994, 2007, 2009 (all-time slot), 2013 (current slot)

Pacers: 2000 (all-time slot), 2004 (current slot), 2014

Pelicans: 2008, 2011 (all-time slot), 2015 (current slot)

Pistons: 1989, 1997 (all-time slot), 2004, 2008 (current slot)

Raptors: 2000, 2007 (all-time slot), 2016 (current slot)

Rockets: 1994, 1997 (all-time slot), 2008, 2015 (current slot)

Spurs: 1995 (all-time slot), 1999 (1998 slot), 2005, 2014 (current slot)

Suns: 1993 (all-time slot), 2005, 2010 (current slot)

Thunder/Sonics: 1996, 2005 (all-time slot), 2012, 2016 (current slot)

Timberwolves: 1998 (all-time slot), 2004, 2014 (current slot)

Trail Blazers: 1991, 2000, 2009 (all-time slot), 2011 (current slot)

Warriors: 1991, 2007, 2013 (current slot), 2016

Wizards: 2003 (all-time slot), 2007 (Current slot)

IMPORTANT: This explains what you need to do to get the added cyberfaces for this roster

-All cyberfaces that were added to this roster come from R4zoR
-To get some cyberfaces such as Rasheed Wallace, you'll want to download some of the files from Brian Mazique's legends roster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPoP2Uv6Pzo&t=264s
-The files do overwrite some important players so I would NOT recommend you add the iff files for CFIDs: 13, 4574, 2028, 1862, 8511, 8506, 8510, 2902, 4519, 4516, 8520, 4537, 68, 4580, 4583, 4599, 8516, 8628, 7219, 1207
-I did use the Ray Allen with hair cyberface but I changed the ID in the download from 13 to 7585 so it didn't overwrite the bald Ray Allen for the roster
-I also downloaded the Chucky Atkins (6089), Chris Childs (3636), and Anthony Carter (3629) from R4zoR's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtPpHd ... QqIKaPcbOA

Roster is still WIP, but you can test out some completed teams. File name: Ultimate Retro
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:04 am

Here is the list of remaining team slots if I go with the teams above:

All-time Bulls
All-time Grizzlies
All-time Jazz
All-time Kings
Current Kings
All-time Knicks
All-time Nuggets
All-time Pelicans
All-time Pistons
All-time TWolves
All-time Trail Blazers
All-time Warriors
I may also re-open the Current Bucks and Rockets slots

There is definitely room for some older teams to offset the heavy 2000s influence.
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Re: Ultimate Retro Roster 2k19- Thunder Shaq (VERY EARLY PLANNING)

Postby sticky-fingers on Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:29 pm

Looks promising :drool:
I would help you if you want, i could make courts floors :idea:
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Postby timmyd on Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:29 pm

Now that Sticky has offered to do the courts/floors. This is gonna be epic! he's really good! He also has some epic retro score-boards.

I'm born 1981 but even for me, my favorite era of basketball was between 2000-2010. I also did enjoy the tail end of MJ's Bulls three-peat.

So in short, I'm excited for this! you have my support.

If later down the road, you want me to fix contracts, accessories, signature shots etc I can do those. I have done ratings in the past but that involves a lot of work lol I am really good with signature shots etc.
Willing to help complete rosters for season/my league use.

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Re: Ultimate Retro Roster 2k19- Thunder Shaq (VERY EARLY PLANNING)

Postby Thunder Shaq on Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:02 am

I appreciate the support from both of you. I would definitely need help on courts, as I am very new to PC modding on this generation. I won't be able to start on much really until I get my PC sometime next month. I have done this roster this year on Xbox, so I know it is definitely realistic to do (obviously this was without mods). I don't want to make anyone feel like they need to start on anything yet. Usually I tend to be a bit more relaxed on these rosters, but if it looks like there is relative interest and demand for this, I will definitely work towards making this as authentic as possible.

Please let me know any ideas to fill out those open slots.
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Postby sticky-fingers on Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:48 pm

Editing rosters, you'll have to figure extra possibilities and how to use Cheat Engine to change teams names, colors etc ;)

About open slots, some ideas :idea:
- 1963-64 Cincinnati Royals (as one more "Kings" franchise)
- 60's Sixers teams with Wilt
- 1977 Portland Trail Blazers
- 1978 Washington Bullets
- 90/91 Jazz
- 95-98 Pistons with G.Hill

About courts, let me know when you start this project by pm ;)
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Postby Etrusco79 on Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:42 pm

Great project,
Why not Miami Heat rosters??
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:58 am

Etrusco79 wrote:Great project,
Why not Miami Heat rosters??



Whoops! Didn't realize I left them off the list. I plan on doing the 1997, 2006, and 2013 (maybe 2014 for Oden and Beasley) teams already in the game. On my Xbox roster I have the 2011 Heat on the all-time slot and the 2016 team on the current slot. Those are flexible though in case a different Heat team makes sense
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:03 am

sticky-fingers wrote:Editing rosters, you'll have to figure extra possibilities and how to use Cheat Engine to change teams names, colors etc ;)

About open slots, some ideas :idea:
- 1963-64 Cincinnati Royals (as one more "Kings" franchise)
- 60's Sixers teams with Wilt
- 1977 Portland Trail Blazers
- 1978 Washington Bullets
- 90/91 Jazz
- 95-98 Pistons with G.Hill

About courts, let me know when you start this project by pm ;)


Definitely agreed on the Blazers, Jazz, and Pistons team with Hill. Only reason I didn't do the Blazers already is because I wouldn't know the ratings the players not in the game. The older teams would take some research as my knowledge of the 60s/70s/80s is mostly limited to the stars and not the role players. I definitely plan on messing around with cheat engine when I finally have my PC before I dive too deep into this roster. It looks like there is a bit of a learning curve with roster editing, but manageable.

I can't promise to reach the same level of authenticity and detail that Dee4Three has put into his 2k17 roster though.
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Postby sticky-fingers on Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:25 pm

On PC you can do what you did on Xbox, and so more, because you can also :
- change graphics : logos, players portraits, courts, dornas etc... change players faces with DNA or with real (long) editing (blender / photoshop or equivalent) and scoreboard too.
- change team names, team colors, accessoiries, teams/players sounds etc... with cheat Engine

If you start modding on PC, for a decent roster IMO we need at least :
- roster :mrgreen: players accurates stats, signatures, team playbooks and coach tendencies (these one is very important on last 2 games)
- courts
- teams logos
- perhaps players portraits
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Postby Dee4Three on Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:37 pm

Good luck,I support the project!

You will be working on it a little late in this games cycle, but many would enjoy it I am sure. To add to Stickys musts, jerseys are certainly a must.

While I'm not working on 2K19, I'll always support retro (done right)

Again, good luck!
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Postby sticky-fingers on Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:24 am

It's easier this year, 2K did a solid job on 2K19 with a ton of (pretty accurate) retro jerseys.
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:54 am

Dee4Three wrote:Good luck,I support the project!

You will be working on it a little late in this games cycle, but many would enjoy it I am sure. To add to Stickys musts, jerseys are certainly a must.

While I'm not working on 2K19, I'll always support retro (done right)

Again, good luck!



Thank you! This is a project that I have passion for, so if it makes more sense to wait until 2k20, then that is something to consider. It all depends on my free time in the coming months. I refuse to release an unfinished or lazily done project. Any support is appreciated, even in the form of just words.
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:00 am

sticky-fingers wrote:It's easier this year, 2K did a solid job on 2K19 with a ton of (pretty accurate) retro jerseys.



Yeah that is definitely something I am happy about in terms of retro this year. Especially on console where we only get what 2k provides or doing a rebrand in MyLeague. [I think] all of the jerseys for this roster are in the game's files already, it is just the courts that would need to be made (like the Wizards, 97 Rockets, etc).
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 am

Made a spreadsheet breakdown of the all the player's cyberfaces that are in the game that I will need for the roster. Of course this doesn't include the players already available on rosters and guys like Charles Barkley and Reggie Miller that aren't in the game.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Wed May 01, 2019 7:58 am

I don't want to make any premature requests (Still don't even have the PC yet), but here is a list of courts I would probably need:

-1983 76ers

-2001 Bucks/2013 Bucks

-2006/2013 Clippers

-2010 Hawks

-2010 Bobcats

-2010 Jazz

-1988 Mavericks

-1993 Nets

-1997 Rockets

-1993 Suns

-2005 SuperSonics

-2003/2007 Wizards
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Postby sticky-fingers on Sat May 04, 2019 6:11 am

IMO all courts have to be made from scratch, i dont really like 2K work on this part (floor quality, stadium lighting.

For the Wizards, I've already a 2006/2009 floor but it was not the same at all in 2003 and in 2004-06.

I've also made 97-00 Rose Garden
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Postby Dee4Three on Sat May 04, 2019 6:12 am

sticky-fingers wrote:IMO all courts have to be made from scratch, i dont really like 2K work on this part (floor quality, stadium lighting.

For the Wizards, I've already a 2006/2009 floor but it was not the same at all in 2003 and in 2004-06.


He could use my converted 02-03 Wizards court if he wants. I personally think he may end up holding off until 2k20 with this project, but for what it's worth, that court will be part of my release (with credits to retroman)

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Postby Thunder Shaq on Sat May 04, 2019 7:38 am

If I am going to redo all courts and I also want to take a shot at working on some portraits, I may hold off on a project of that magnitude for 2k20. Depending on my schedule, I may just end up doing an Ultimate Retro *Lite* for 2k19 to practice modding and then gear up for a major launch of the roster in 2k20. That court looks very good, Dee.
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Postby Dee4Three on Sat May 04, 2019 8:04 am

Thunder Shaq wrote:If I am going to redo all courts and I also want to take a shot at working on some portraits, I may hold off on a project of that magnitude for 2k20. Depending on my schedule, I may just end up doing an Ultimate Retro *Lite* for 2k19 to practice modding and then gear up for a major launch of the roster in 2k20. That court looks very good, Dee.


Thanks!

It's tough to start such a big project this late in the games cycle, especially if you don't have your setup yet and are new to modding on PC. Certainly a good title to practice on, as we are now in year 4 or 5 of this gen on this PC, and more tools and expertise exist at this point.
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Postby sticky-fingers on Sat May 04, 2019 8:38 am

You're probably right Dee.
:idea: Perhaps a good step to start will be another thing, perhaps like you did before Dee, starting to fill current retro teams with missing players, wrong portraits and courts, fix rosters :idea:
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Sat May 04, 2019 9:29 am

I appreciate the advice from both of you. It is a pretty big project to be my first one, so I should definitely get used to modding first. There might be a learning curve when working with jerseys, courts, cyberfaces.
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Wed May 15, 2019 8:17 am

Here is an update on my progress. I have finished some teams and had been messing around a bit with the limnono trainer to add cyberfaces, but that is the extent of my modding so far (outside of downloading some cyber faces for some missing players).

I have finished the rosters for:

1983 76ers

2006 76ers

2011 Bulls

2010 Cavaliers

1992 Celtics

2006 Heat

2011 Mavericks

2004 Pistons

1993 Suns

I may not have the free time in the future to release a full modded out roster for this game, but I just wanted to update my progress of what I’ve worked on. I hope to work with the cheat engine soon to figure out jerseys, courts, and logos
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Postby Thunder Shaq on Wed May 15, 2019 8:48 am

Also, if anyone has a dumbed down explanation on how to change a team's jerseys and courts (say changing the regular 76ers slot to have the 2001 76ers jerseys and court), please let me know or direct me to a tutorial.
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Postby sticky-fingers on Fri May 17, 2019 7:08 pm

For jerseys, check how they did for the 1992 mod :idea:

For this project, i have these floors finished (or almost) :
- 1983 76ers
- 1993 Suns
- 1992 Celtics
- 2006 Heat
- 2004 Pistons
- 2008-10 Bobcats
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