m29a wrote:Maybe it's just the people I play with IRL, but considering they don't know about sliders or care to use them, the odd thing is, I don't think they even notice any game problems, or again, care.
Dee4Three wrote:H it doesn't change the gameplay issue itself. That issue is still present to the vast majority of gamers
CarolusXCI wrote: It's still absurdly easy and should be addressed in a patch.
Dee4Three wrote:Hi all,
We go nuts on sliders, and it helps a select few... but I believe this also masks the real problem, or makes it seem not as big of an issue if the problem is curved slightly and we are happy with the improvement. Do you see how this could hurt the games development?
bongo88 wrote:First..."should be"...really? 2k doesn't have to do anything. 2k doesn't have to include sliders. the fact that they do is a nice perk to their consumer base. They are releasing an enterainment product to enteraint people in their free time. It's the reason why i've stayed on 2k11 for years. it provided entertainment. some people play it regular. some people tweak sliders.
Second, As an experienced modder since the mid 90s, there should be nothing but gratitude that companies allow modding. I have been on many maodding projects on many different games that were halted by a cease and desist. this forum could disappear with one legal email. anytime i see modding going up, i am grateful to the publishers to allow it.
bongo88 wrote:Dee4Three wrote:H it doesn't change the gameplay issue itself. That issue is still present to the vast majority of gamers
I'm sure you have a sample size of perhaps, say what, 20 people. It seems rather presumptuous to extrapolate your data to millions of gamers.CarolusXCI wrote: It's still absurdly easy and should be addressed in a patch.
First..."should be"...really? 2k doesn't have to do anything. 2k doesn't have to include sliders. the fact that they do is a nice perk to their consumer base. They are releasing an enterainment product to enteraint people in their free time. It's the reason why i've stayed on 2k11 for years. it provided entertainment. some people play it regular. some people tweak sliders.
Second, As an experienced modder since the mid 90s, there should be nothing but gratitude that companies allow modding. I have been on many maodding projects on many different games that were halted by a cease and desist. this forum could disappear with one legal email. anytime i see modding going up, i am grateful to the publishers to allow it.
Now, my favorite basketball game is nba live 98 on the snes. no sliders. can turn off a few rules. 2d sprites. a few facy animations. just basketball.
i play it a few times ever month for entertainment, but i used to fire it up lots on my laptop druing college, and random people would often join. taking break from studies. There is a button to push people. litteraly through the air
I call that gamebreaking.
everyone i've played with universally agrees that this is "gamebreaking". did it make it less enjoyable? no every random person i played with (hundreds of people) we enjoyed the short 10 minute game, then back to study life. we just made a rule... no pushing. all those games were still great entertainment. and a good break from studies.Dee4Three wrote:Hi all,
We go nuts on sliders, and it helps a select few... but I believe this also masks the real problem, or makes it seem not as big of an issue if the problem is curved slightly and we are happy with the improvement. Do you see how this could hurt the games development?
hyperbole or caricature... couldn't decide which word fit this passgae better. anyways, i'm done here posting here. good luck with the mods. lots of good mods here and in the china forums.
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