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Postby lurumagno on Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:27 am

sticky-fingers wrote:Coach' settings are the same for player and CPU. But CPU coach never changes, never adjust and default options are on manual or off.

Where's a quick video :
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you had to do that before each game, because theses settings arent in an options menu.


Hi mate,

I tried it in a friendly match, just leave the other player alone.Perhaps,in mygm i cant change sides in game....any ideas?

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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby sticky-fingers on Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:00 am

I dont play in MyGM, but in MyLeague, you can change side.

If you want to stay on mygm, and if there's no way to change side ingame, you have to use cheat engine.
i dont make a table, but i'm pretty sure it can be fix with CE ; i think you have to set the values for local and for the visiting team.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby hova- on Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:58 pm

sticky-fingers wrote:Coach' settings are the same for player and CPU. But CPU coach never changes, never adjust and default options are on manual or off.

Where's a quick video :
phpBB [video]


you had to do that before each game, because theses settings arent in an options menu.



How can this post not raise any eyebrows? It actually makes help defense finally existent! Although I still dont like the AI on helping out, finally they will help out when you iso.

Great find, but how bad is the 2k development team when the CPU does not use ANY of the settings available. How bad is that!? I am so glad I was lucky and only spent 10 bucks on the game on ebay. They dont deserve any money for that.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Lagoa on Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:15 am

Hey guys, this bug apears after patches?

Because i remember play 2K18 with Cavs, and after 2 or 3 drives, CPU IA make Defense adjusts to help LeBron Drive. Remember include a 4 "3s in the key" for CPU in one game in a row, because i set "iso" with James.

So, anyone here test defense with game on 1.01 version?
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:57 am

hova- wrote:How can this post not raise any eyebrows? It actually makes help defense finally existent! Although I still dont like the AI on helping out, finally they will help out when you iso.


It's probably not a good solution for some people :roll:

Happy it can help you ;)

Lagoa wrote:Hey guys, this bug apears after patches?

Because i remember play 2K18 with Cavs, and after 2 or 3 drives, CPU IA make Defense adjusts to help LeBron Drive. Remember include a 4 "3s in the key" for CPU in one game in a row, because i set "iso" with James.

So, anyone here test defense with game on 1.01 version?


Trap is not on Auto for CPU on 1.01 (got a backup of all versions).

For trap, it's very strange without a human correction : it seems that AI do it sometimes, but rarely and only on aliens like LeBron, KD, MJ.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:57 am

hova- wrote:How can this post not raise any eyebrows? It actually makes help defense finally existent! Although I still dont like the AI on helping out, finally they will help out when you iso.


It's probably not a good solution for some people :roll:

Happy it can help you ;)

Lagoa wrote:Hey guys, this bug apears after patches?

Because i remember play 2K18 with Cavs, and after 2 or 3 drives, CPU IA make Defense adjusts to help LeBron Drive. Remember include a 4 "3s in the key" for CPU in one game in a row, because i set "iso" with James.

So, anyone here test defense with game on 1.01 version?


Trap is not on Auto for CPU on 1.01 (got a backup of all versions).

For trap, it's very strange without a human correction : it seems that AI do it sometimes, but rarely and only on aliens like LeBron, KD, MJ.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:24 am

sticky-fingers wrote:It's probably not a good solution for some people :roll:


Eye roll? Why?

I havn't had a chance to try this, I've had a lot going on in my personal life. When I do, I will report back. Does this do anything to curve how easy it is to get by the one on one defender with anybody?
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby skoadam on Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:27 am

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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Lagoa on Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:57 am

Guys, i´m testing some stuffs and find a possible "fix" but need mooooore test.

All this stupid bug is on IA action on ball defense. So, i CHANGE SLIDERS and put:

ACCELERATION 1 (USER) and 99 (CPU)

In my first tests, CPU Defense is reeeeally more agressive. So, try it.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:03 am

I've also tried that Lagoa, and it did nothing. While yes I was slower when moving forward, I still easily got my defender on my side on my drives. All you have to do is keep moving forward, trust me.

And I've stated this before, even if that DID work, it would be complete crap. The feeling of being stuck in the mud is horrible when acceleration is at 1, and it's really sad that we can still just get to the hoop with it at 1.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Lagoa on Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:17 am

I have some results here Cavs vs Warriors. Some team defense and better body defense. But i need to test more.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:37 am

Lagoa wrote:I have some results here Cavs vs Warriors. Some team defense and better body defense. But i need to test more.


Cool, post a video if you can when completed.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Lagoa on Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:56 am

yep!
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Lagoa on Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:05 am

Yep, nothing work...man, it´s AMAZINH how ON BALL DEFENSE not exists on this game.... players (best defenders in the NBA) chose the weak side EVERY PLAY!!

OWWWWW 2k Sports, for the SECOND YEAR IN A ROW, the game is stupid on defense, it´s a joke! :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:07 am

Going back to the question of patches for a moment, I'm fairly certain that this has been an issue from Day 1.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:08 am

Lagoa wrote:Yep, nothing work...man, it´s AMAZINH how ON BALL DEFENSE not exists on this game.... players (best defenders in the NBA) chose the weak side EVERY PLAY!!

OWWWWW 2k Sports, for the SECOND YEAR IN A ROW, the game is stupid on defense, it´s a joke! :evil: :evil: :evil:


Yeah, its really bad...

And Andrew is right, its been an issue since release.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Lagoa on Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:45 am

Its unbelievable right now, because working with ALL players....it´s just drive and u win the game by 30pts....
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:02 pm

Lagoa wrote:Its unbelievable right now, because working with ALL players....it´s just drive and u win the game by 30pts....


Thats what this entire thread is all about. You can do it with anybody, on anybody. Its insane.... it ruins the game.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Lagoa on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:09 pm

Anyways, the best "fix" for now is go to opponent before the game starts and put ROTATION "YES" and double team AUTO.

Defense is REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY BETTER inside....help is insane.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby intruda on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:55 pm

Agree with everything. Defense is horrible.

Literally got all cpu sliders to 100.

I have a bigger issue with the cpu offense.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:59 pm

intruda wrote:Agree with everything. Defense is horrible.

Literally got all cpu sliders to 100.

I have a bigger issue with the cpu offense.


I started another post on the cpu offense. It's miserable. Literally the CPU just dribbling into the middle of the paint, and just standing there, and either going up on like 3 people or passing it out to a wide open player who won't shoot. And if he does shoot, he does it on the move for no reason. Every game I have played on HOF I have held the CPU to like 30% from the field, because the AI is just that bad.

They will post someone up, and go up no matter how many people I have in the paint, and all I have to do is push my joystick towards the offensive player and they miss almost every time.

They run fastbreaks like idiots.

This game doesn't resemble NBA basketball to me. It's a mess.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby fjccommish on Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:22 pm

It's like Basketball Jesus, only this time it didn't shame a company into pulling the fundamentally broken product.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:50 pm

Lagoa wrote:Anyways, the best "fix" for now is go to opponent before the game starts and put ROTATION "YES" and double team AUTO.

Defense is REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY BETTER inside....help is insane.


happy that helps you ;)

intruda wrote:I have a bigger issue with the cpu offense.


take a look at jacksalas CPU tendencies ; CPU offense is much better.
I think 2K roster is also guilty for this part, because some players are totally dumb.
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby Uncle Drew on Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:52 am

sticky-fingers wrote:
Lagoa wrote:Anyways, the best "fix" for now is go to opponent before the game starts and put ROTATION "YES" and double team AUTO.

Defense is REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY BETTER inside....help is insane.


happy that helps you ;)

intruda wrote:I have a bigger issue with the cpu offense.


take a look at jacksalas CPU tendencies ; CPU offense is much better.
I think 2K roster is also guilty for this part, because some players are totally dumb.


Where would you find, Jacksalas CPU tendencies?
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Re: The defense is broken - VIDEO #3 WITH SLIDER TWEAKS!

Postby hova- on Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:10 am

I am working on a roster right now that fits way better for the CPU. I also changed the CPUs plays according vanwolfhawks plays that fit way better.

So far I am only 5 teams in and I dont have a lot of time, but I like the results. I also have a slider set that makes the game better for me, also the on ball defense - although its still flawed and depends on how you like to play.

I did so far not plan to release anything but maybe I will just share the roster. I also worked on the coaches tendencies taking a look at the real pace of the teams.

I am not sure if we can actually change the systems profiency? I think its only changeable during ingame menu?

I really would love to get the best out of 2k18 to finally play an full myleague again. Havent done that since 3 years because of bugs, bad rosters, lack of time etc.
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