Dee4Three wrote:So 2K will probably continue raking it in no matter what product they put out, unless Live or someone else becomes the "cool" or "hip" thing to play, once another game starts "trending" it could turn 2K's significance down a tad.
Andrew wrote:I agree. It's disheartening to see 2K cosy up to big YouTubers, and those big YouTubers do the wider basketball gaming community a disservice by not pointing out the game's flaws. To be fair there are some that have, or say it without saying it by moving on to other games, but it does seem they don't want to be too critical for fear of losing perks and a working relationship with 2K. Asking that site to change their score was a very shady move indeed.
TheRocket wrote:But I think this game has gotten a bad response by people overall, it's not like 2k is focusing the most on online part of the game and thus that part of the game is really good. We know about the metacritic score, I visit reddit/2k from time to time, operation sports, and many many people don't like this game, various people complain about various things, offline people don't like it because of the issues discussed here in more than one thread, online people don't like it because of VC as a most obvious reason, but it's not like people love the game as it is and they are just annoyed by the VC greed, there are many gameplay issues people complain about, whether it is the uncontested layups being missed, blocks on the way down, too many body blocks steals etc etc, many things we as the mostly offline comunity complain about, although our list is longer because we are unhappy with the way AI plays this year and online gamers don't have to deal with it nearly as much as we do.
I think that goes to show that gameplay must be a number one thing on the priority list. If you fix the gameplay, if is solid, balanced and people like it, people will swallow some other minor issues much easier. This is a quote from a guy from Operation Sports and I agree with this 100%, he wrote it under 2k19 wishlist "Spend a year fixing the massive laundry list of bugs, legacy gameplay issues and UI errors before even thinking about anything else... "
That's what 2k needs to do, we don't need neighbourhood 2, I mean it seems to me like most of the people don't even like the neighbourhood, I think it just doesn't fit modern online gaming, seems obsolete like Jahlil Okafor in the modern NBA, people just want to play the game, look at fortnite, so easy to join the game and you can play big number of games in a small amount of time, that's what people want.
One guy on reddit asked what would 2k had to do in order for you to buy it day one, some guy wrote "a miracle". I am pretty sure I won't be buying it on the release date, I mean I will try the demo but I am not sure it is going to give enough chance to test it so much that I can see if the gameplay is improved, if the issues are fixed etc. I am not sure 2k can fix all the issues we had in one year, maybe if they focused solely on fixing the game, not adding new fancy things, but that doesn't sell the game, neighbourhoods do, but it is what 2k desparetely needs at this point
TheRocket wrote:I hope people are watching Blazers Pelicans series and see what a real tough defense looks like, Holiday putting clamps down on Lillard,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e19cGbaGCPA
I hope it is going to stop that "no handcheck ergo no defense in todays nba" talk that some people in this thread have. Look at the 1 on 1on ball defense, pick and roll defense, I forgot how much I love it
hova- wrote:sticky-fingers wrote:Coach' settings are the same for player and CPU. But CPU coach never changes, never adjust and default options are on manual or off.
Where's a quick video :
you had to do that before each game, because theses settings arent in an options menu.
How can this post not raise any eyebrows? It actually makes help defense fianally existent! Although I still dont like the AI on helping out, finally they will help out when you iso.
Great find, but how bad is the 2k development team when the CPU does not use ANY of the settings available. How bad is that!? I am so glad I was lucky and only spent 10 bucks on the game on ebay. They dont deserve any money for that.
sticky-fingers wrote:hova- wrote:sticky-fingers wrote:Coach' settings are the same for player and CPU. But CPU coach never changes, never adjust and default options are on manual or off.
Where's a quick video :
you had to do that before each game, because theses settings arent in an options menu.
How can this post not raise any eyebrows? It actually makes help defense fianally existent! Although I still dont like the AI on helping out, finally they will help out when you iso.
Great find, but how bad is the 2k development team when the CPU does not use ANY of the settings available. How bad is that!? I am so glad I was lucky and only spent 10 bucks on the game on ebay. They dont deserve any money for that.
i can bump too
Dee4Three wrote:The help defense was as bad as it was before
Dee4Three wrote:and obviously it doesn't do anything for the horrible on ball defense
Ovi wrote:Bro, i been experimenting with various sliders for the last 10 days or so, and i can tell you the game isn't as bad now, for trying to make the game play the way i want it, i think i've turned into john nash jr along the way haha
Want to stop the drives?
Lower the driving contact shot frequency, & inside contact shot frequency to below 34
tougher CPU on defense, raise the defensive consistency & defensive awareness & help defense sliders
Better Cpu on offense raise the offensive awareness to 60 or 65 and you'll see the CPU make slicing passes, no look passes,
I think the game at default is broken, and plays like a arcade game, but with little tweaking it can suit your liking, specially if you play it with offensive sets full viewing.
just my 2 cents
diamenz wrote:Ovi wrote:Bro, i been experimenting with various sliders for the last 10 days or so, and i can tell you the game isn't as bad now, for trying to make the game play the way i want it, i think i've turned into john nash jr along the way haha
Want to stop the drives?
Lower the driving contact shot frequency, & inside contact shot frequency to below 34
tougher CPU on defense, raise the defensive consistency & defensive awareness & help defense sliders
Better Cpu on offense raise the offensive awareness to 60 or 65 and you'll see the CPU make slicing passes, no look passes,
I think the game at default is broken, and plays like a arcade game, but with little tweaking it can suit your liking, specially if you play it with offensive sets full viewing.
just my 2 cents
u do mean raise the contact shot frequency, right? or does it work differently than common sense suggests? wouldn't be surprising with 2k's track record lol.
Ovi wrote:diamenz wrote:Ovi wrote:Bro, i been experimenting with various sliders for the last 10 days or so, and i can tell you the game isn't as bad now, for trying to make the game play the way i want it, i think i've turned into john nash jr along the way haha
Want to stop the drives?
Lower the driving contact shot frequency, & inside contact shot frequency to below 34
tougher CPU on defense, raise the defensive consistency & defensive awareness & help defense sliders
Better Cpu on offense raise the offensive awareness to 60 or 65 and you'll see the CPU make slicing passes, no look passes,
I think the game at default is broken, and plays like a arcade game, but with little tweaking it can suit your liking, specially if you play it with offensive sets full viewing.
just my 2 cents
u do mean raise the contact shot frequency, right? or does it work differently than common sense suggests? wouldn't be surprising with 2k's track record lol.
Yes it actually surprised me, but it does work differently than common sense,
Lower Contact Shot frequency & Lower inside shot frequency = More resistence on drives
Btw these two tabs are also linked with the Body-up sensitivity tab'
Meaning You have to also lower the body-up sensitivity below 45 as well, i found a sweet spot would be
Lower Contact shot frequency - 33 & Below
Body up-sensitivity - 40 & below
If you want to completely negate the easy drives, you can raise the "Help Defense", although that would open you up to winger 3-pointers
I'm working on some Drive & Kick Sliders to mimic the current common NBA scheme, that relies on driving and kicking to the 3-pointer, will post it when its done, its been driving me mad with all the experimenting, but i'm close
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