2K18 Broadcast View - They removed Broadcast Generic

[Dee4Three]

Hi all,

Broadcast generic is what I have used the last few years for 2K. The ability to turn off "Auto Zoom" in 2K17 was wonderful. That still exists in 2K18.. but...

Broadcast Zoom and Broadcast Low have replaced Broadcast Generic, and both are poor options for me. If you use Broadcast Low, the camera not only has trouble following the action, but in no way does it resemble a broadcast even with adjustments. The camera sits behind the offensive player, like right behind them, it doesn't matter what your zoom is. It makes fastbreaks look and feel odd, just dribbling up the court is strange.

The Broadcast Zoom option has issues in regards to when you turn the Auto Zoom Off, because the camera basically stays zoomed at all times at that point. I have a 0% chance of getting the same view as I had on 2K17 (Which a lot of people asked about and loved from my youtube videos). Broadcast Zoom with the Auto Zoom on, is a bit more acceptable when bringing up the ball, but it zooms in far to early in the halfcourt offense (like when we get to the top of the key). It used to be a key zoom, now its more of a halfcourt zoom.

This is a big deal for a person who uses broadcast camera, because it's how we play the whole game.

Anybody else have issues with the switch from broadcast generic to broadcast zoom and broadcast low?

This view is impossible in 2K18.

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[Andrew]

I'll need to double-check what I'm playing 5v5 on. As I've said before, I generally prefer 2K cam or one of the variants for player locked modes, and broadcast when I'm controlling all five players. I can't remember offhand which I've chosen for 5v5 this year, but that's a shame that the generic broadcast angle is gone.

[Dee4Three]

They should have kept generic in the game and just added the other two, it's unnecessary changes like this that make no sense to me. Nobody mentioned issues with the broadcast cam for 2K17, I have seen 0 people complain about it. So, they spent time removing that, and adding two options for broadcast in which both are more limited than the generic view, but they didn't spend time to fix the giant heads that are in the game?

Time and resources into the wrong things, that's my opinion.

[Andrew]

Agreed. There are a few things they changed this year that didn't need to be altered, and issues that remain unaddressed. Always frustrating to encounter that.

[Dee4Three]

I just don't understand it. Venting a little here. I know that JaoSming and Leftos lurk, and I am probably looked at as a complainer, but I consider all of this a big deal.

Problems like big heads, horrible lighting, dead atmosphere, not being able to achieve the right camera view, being able to drive with anybody at any time regardless off speed or skills, players moving and dribbling like Iverson (like the 10-11 Kidd) that shouldn't be able to, these are all created problems. All of them.

For 2K17, they released a solid product, and demolished it with patches which made the defense somehow worse, players stuck in the mud and heavy, players being slow on most every move. In 2K18, they released a product that was really, really rough around the edges, with even worse defense and gameplay issues, but now say they won't patch it and the gameplay will basically remain the same. Also, they spent the time to pump up the VC approach in the game to extreme portions.

Do you guys realize how frustrating this is to the consumer? I don't care if all of these departments are separated and never communicate with eachother. If that's the case, a project manager or project managers who work on the big picture via final release should have caught this crap. How does a company this big release a game with defense this bad, with so many players having oversized heads (This wasn't a problem in 2K17, its a CREATED problem), with all players blending in together on the court, with basically one body type.

I went back and looked at the comment sections on here for 2K8, 2K9, 2K10 and 2K11... it was almost all positive. People were impressed with the strides in each title, with the improvements and attention to detail. I look now, and its mostly about 2K with the ridiculous VC grab, and other issues.

I am a contributor on this forum, and I feel an obligation to be positive more often. But... c'mon...

Anybody from 2K want to come on here and tell me how a product is released with all of these gameplay issues, while pumping up the VC approach and making changes that didn't need to be made. Adding 17 new classic teams and the all time teams was a great idea, but why add that content when you release it incomplete? Why do that when you have big heads all over the league, horrible unrealistic lighting and atmosphere, and defense that is abysmal?

Meanwhile, I am watching 2K bragging about reviews they receive and posting the articles, in those articles they don't mention ANYTHING about the horrid defense, the skating all over the floor, the unrealistic basketball experience that is this game. If they make a mention about VC, it's very slight, like it doesn't matter. The reviews literally don't cover the gameplay accurately AT ALL. But the company of course feels good about that, because they are rolling in the money.

My frustration is at an all time high... a part of it is because basketball gaming takes up a huge part of my off time, but even if that wasn't the case, the concept of what I am talking about above is just hard for me to grasp.

[Andrew]

Some of the reviews are astonishing, bewildering even. Accusations of paid reviews are thrown around way too readily these days, but there are a few people who review the games every year that don't mention the myriad of legacy issues and new problems alike. It makes you wonder whether they really know their stuff when it comes to basketball games, are just incredibly forgiving, or indeed are in 2K's pocket. Some of them are writing for large and influential publications, so it's disheartening that they're not taking more of a stand and looking out for the gamers, who are at the end of the day their audience as well. As you noted, it's also frustrating to see 2K happily tout these positive reviews in the face of such a significant and justified backlash this year.