Info on layup timing, courtesy of Da_Czar

[Andrew]

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[ThePointForward]

I mean if the vibrations would work, it would definitely be a massive improvement.

EDIT: I just got an idea... I used My Xbox One Elite controller over the weekend and yesterday. Today I tried the Steam controller and lo and behold, the vibrations work.
EDIT 2: I just switched back to the Elite controller and the vibrations still work.
EDIT 3: So as I wrote that, I switched back to the game and Elite controller without vibrations again. Switched back to Steam and vibrations work. All without closing game.

FINAL EDIT: Somehow the vibrations seem to work for me now and the layup timing is fine. I do not make every contact layup, but I saw big improvement in my FG%.

[buzzy]

I'm just wondering if the vibration is an indication for the perfect release point, or an indication for the player to release the ball - if that makes sense.


Anticipating the rumble instead of waiting for it and reacting to it, is a lot more difficult.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I still feel that if layups are going to have release timing, there needs to be a visual indicator, or a visual indicator needs to be an option.

[TGsoGood]

Why is this not shown on 2KTV?

[ThePointForward]

Given you get the rumble on jump shots and free throws too and they start just before the perfect point, I believe it's reaction, not prediction.

[Andrew]

Why is this not shown on 2KTV?

Given the complaints, it may well be. Going by what Da_Czar said, it was a point they forgot to emphasise during the preview season.

[Andrew]

So I've been experimenting with this as it pertains to jumpshots, since the meter is there to compare. I have found that if you pay attention to the rumble along with the visual cue of the shot meter, you can get a lot of green releases. I put up shots from all over the court, and although I couldn't nail the precise timing every time, the rumble feedback did help.

I also tried shooting completely by feel, i.e. looking away from the screen, releasing the shot in conjunction with the rumble, then looking back to see what my timing was like, as per the meter and shot feedback. I actually found myself getting quite a few excellent releases without looking and simply going by the rumble, so getting a feel for it can be very beneficial. Using it in conjunction with a visual cue such as the shot meter or familiarity with your player's animation (or indeed, a combination of the three) should yield good results. It'd be the same with layups, except you'd just have to go by the animation and rumble there.

Describing the optimal timing of the rumble is a bit tricky, but here goes. It's too early if it's just starting to rumble, but if it's towards the end of the rumble, it's too late. There's a split second where you might get a Good release rather than Slightly Early or Slightly Late, but it seems like Good releases are oddly worse than Slightly Early or Slightly Late releases once again this year, so if you can't get green, it's better to be slightly more off in either direction. I can't nail it every time, but by releasing it after the build up of the rumble but before it begins petering out, I managed to get long streaks of green releases, even from three-point range.

It takes practice, but I can confirm that it's a helpful cue in addition to the visual aids. I wish I could describe the timing better than that, but like I said, while I can nail the timing quite often using that method, I can't hit it 100% of the time. That could be by design, though; I know Beluba said green releases would be tougher this year, and I would say that the timing isn't as forgiving as it was in NBA 2K17. Handy knowledge and technique to practice, though.

[Jackal]

I've been trying it too since I saw this video, I still miss a bunch though. After reading your post it seems I let go too early. I let go when it starts to rumble, guess I'll try to hold on to it a bit longer and see what results I get.

I would still like a visual cue for layups. Give me the option at least. Shots have it. Let me be able to turn it on and off so I know sort of what I'm doing wrong besides just feeling it and getting irritated.

[Andrew]

I'm definitely in favour of them patching that in. A visual cue beyond the animation is very handy, for training yourself if nothing else.