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Postby matmat66 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:14 am

Just would like to know if it is possible to shift to real shooting percentage (player + skill setting) in Live Ultimate Team instead of shot stick timing? I'm really having difficulty with the shot stick. Thanks.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby [Q] on Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:52 am

shinron15 wrote:I was able to sell Shaq for 190k when he first came out, because of Shaq's popularity as a player. From what I've seen, prices can vary to a player's popularity, or based mainly on three point ratings.

Best example I can find is McGrady on release vs Glen Rice on Thursday. When people looked at McGrady's ratings, they found out that he was a better offensive player than Rice (who at the time was considered the best offensive player), and I saw some Rice cards going for 80k, but since people started to drop the price for auctioning McGrady, Rice went back to being worth 200+k mainly because of his three point rating (same with Chuck Person being in the 150+k range).

Popularity is also in consideration, because before the Magic challange, even Shaq's Cavs card went for about 80+k, even though Cavs Kemp had superior stats.

of course popularity has a lot to do with it. you probably couldn't sell a Rony Seikaly for more than 5,000 coins lol
I think in the case of Person & Rice, it's more about rarity especially since they were in the earlier packs. the price on Ray Allen has come down a bit.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:56 am

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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:59 am

Very nice.

Quick question, are there any games where fatigue actually comes into play? I've yet to need to make a sub, and it seems that the CPU never subs, either.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:04 pm

Fatigue matters in the League Heroes, Masters, and What-If Wednesday challenges. Almost all the others have 3 minute quarters, and substitutions are not necessary for those games. The CPU (as well as your coach) will never sub in games with 3 minute quarters.

tldr; fatigue only matters on games with 5 minute quarters.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:07 pm

Ah, good to know. Thanks. (Y)
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:17 pm

Another thing I recommend is doing the What-If Wednesday challenges, or any challenge that offers a playstyle player. Not only are you guaranteed a silver playstyle player, then a gold playstyle player, but you can also potentially get a player eligible for their respective Franchise Hero challenge.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:50 pm

Awesome, will keep it in mind! As I said in this week's Monday Tip-Off, I'm definitely feeling enthusiastic about LUT again.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby [Q] on Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:12 pm

Yeah, seems like any game that's not on pro or rookie difficulty will have subs. At the beginning I'd keep my good players in my inventory and waste the contracts of scrubs on the bench
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:37 pm

Definitely solid advice. I haven't bothered to do anything with my bench while I'm playing games without subs. Just fielding a starting five that can get the job done.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:36 am

While I was watching a video, I saw somebody complete one of the master challenges (Maravich iirc), and it spoils two legends not yet revealed

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Postby [Q] on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:53 am

They just did a Lakers event and I felt they were a little lacking with their 80s Lakers players. This will probably be another Lakers event later I would imagine. This is obviously from the Jerry West master challenge
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Postby shinron15 on Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:32 am

I hope the Lakers get another event; as their legends were kind of lacking (no offense to the legends featured, of course. I'm glad that this game understands to give Mikan glasses) Although judging from the screenshots, Wilt does not look like how he did when he joined the Lakers, so that might be a Warriors/Sixers version used in place.

Also if I'm assuming something to be added later on, it would be retro versions of current players. From the takedown games, I have seen Melo as a Nugget (along with a different portrait), LeBron with his facemask during his run with the Heat, and Vince Carter during his run with the Raptors (with a unique face and portrait)
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Postby [Q] on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:09 pm

I think Vince as a Raptor is a huge possibility considering his throwback is in the game as are the other legends and if they do a Raptors legend challenge, he most certainly belongs in there, most likely with Tmac and another player. They already did a Heat one, so maybe they won't do Lebron. Or maybe it could be a different challenge altogether like a holiday or what if challenge
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Postby shinron15 on Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:20 am

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Postby [Q] on Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:41 am

So pippen, rodman, kukoc.

Rodman better be a 99 in rebounding or else the ratings are a joke

Pippen will probably be a pretty well rounded player
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:56 am

Rebounding is certainly a difficult rating to get right for these legends it seems. Even if Rodman would get a 99 in rebounding, then by that logic, Elgin Baylor, Bob Pettit, Wes Unseld, and Wilt Chamberlain should've also had a 99 in rebounding since they're all ranked above Rodman in career rebounding (no offense to Rodman, of course). But then again, they probably do this for balancing purposes.

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Postby [Q] on Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:45 am

Yeah it's just my opinion. For the most part, the ratings have been pretty good. Occasionally, there's one that's abnormally high, but then again all of the legends have been a bit overrated

But you can see in guys like Steve Nash they balanced out his offensive stats with some really poor defense. I could see rodmans shooting ratings in the 50s
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:03 am

Same could be said about 2K overrating their legends (Jamal Crawford in 2K16 with a 96 overall)

I wanted to get Nash originally, but once I found out that John Starks has a 93 3pt rating, 89 defensive rating, and being cheaper to get, it was obvious which was the better deal.

The challenge for me is somehow getting to open two packs with less and less Hero challenges to complete.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:38 am

Alright, finally a chance to get Pippen. Going to have to do my best.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:44 pm

Picked up a short term Shaq card by completing the Magic Legends challenge, but I was too late to buy one of the packs for a permanent card. I'd have needed to shell out real money for it so I don't have enough coins yet, but I'm open to that. Hey, if I can spend some real money to upgrade my MyPLAYER, only to be disappointed by the MyCAREER and 2K Pro-Am experience, I'm open to spending some extra money on NBA Live 18 to catch up a little, and get something good in a mode I'm enjoying a lot more so far. I might do that for the Bulls Legends packs.

I've gone back and am currently finishing up the Training Camp challenges I haven't already done. I've moved my short term cards back to my inventory, as they're running out of games, and I'd like to save them for tougher challenges. Taj Gibson has been a star for me, and J.R. Smith is filling in for pre-order James Harden quite nicely. As I mentioned before, Cole Aldrich is capable of being a beast in the easier challenges, too. I've been exhausting the single game challenges first, and now am at the point where I'll have to play at least a couple of games to get a new pack.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby zzcoolj21 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:29 am

Not a bad second pack
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby [Q] on Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 am

I figured all of his stats would be pretty high. Comparing him to my nique card, I'd still prefer Wilkins. Although the 99 defense might come in handy. I made about 15000 profit on my 2ND tmac so I should have enough time to earn enough for a 2ND legends pack this week. Seeing how cheap the tmacs were last week I might check out the AH for Pippen as well

For some reason I kinda want a rodman card
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 am

Awesome. Here's hoping I have similar luck.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

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Postby zzcoolj21 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:37 am

Rodman isn't a bad pull at all.

Team update probably until All-Star content
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I've been trying to pick that Rose up for weeks. We haven't gotten any throwback players so it might be the closest thing we see to a prime Rose this year. Hopefully we get some modern throwbacks at some point.

[Q] wrote:Seeing how cheap the tmacs were last week I might check out the AH for Pippen as well

Cheapest I've seen on the market so far is 390k :shock: T-Mac's price was already down a lot by this time last week. I think Pippen being the highest overall card in the game is bumping his price up a lot.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:40 am

Rodman is impressive with an 80 dribbling for a big. On top of that, I can run a small ball lineup with Kemp and Rodman as the bigmen.

Scottie is a priority, but the Small Forward I really want is Larry Bird.

zzcoolj21 wrote:Cheapest I've seen on the market so far is 390k :shock: T-Mac's price was already down a lot by this time last week. I think Pippen being the highest overall card in the game is bumping his price up a lot.


I didn't see McGrady drop to the minimum of 70k until Saturday, and even with Pippen being a 95, Orlando Shaq was a minimum of 400k-600k when he first came out, but apparently, that's how all the newest legends with the best ratings are when they first come out. Pippen will most likely be around 200k-230k at his cheapest in about a week, since even guys like Magic Shaq, and Oscar Robertson (who are both a 94 overall) now go for about 140-180k on average. I still see players like Glen Rice and Chuck Person basically going for the highest since those two are part of the infamous "Three Point Death Lineup"
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Postby [Q] on Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:42 am

What is this 3 point death lineup? Sounds interesting lol
I got a bunch of 80 somethings in my starting lineup with master curry or Xmas redick at over 90

I was seeing tmac for 50-70k last week when I was trying to sell. I started it at 43 and someone took the buy it now at 49. I figured I'd sell low to get the sale instead of waiting for someone willing to pay a premium

I love playing my sonics Kemp at center. With his speed him and nique are alley oop threats on fast breaks, especially if nique gets the steal. Feels like I'm playing NBA jam
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Postby shinron15 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:08 am

To sum it up, the Three Point Death Lineup was a nickname given by the competitive LUT community. The lineup consists of Master Curry at the 1, Glen Rice at the 3, and Chuck Person at the 4. The team is considered cheap because of Person and Rice are excellent at mid range shooting, Person can space better than most Power Forwards if he's put there, Rice and Curry are both fast players, so if a good screen is set, they both can react fast enough for a three, Rice and Person also have defense ratings in the 80's, so that means if the player is good enough, they can steal the ball for a nearly guaranteed transition three pointer, and Curry requires a player with a beefy defense stat to guard him with his speed and excellent dribbling. On top of that, if the opponent chooses to double team one of the players, the other two have a tendency to be left wide open, basically resulting in a guaranteed three pointer.
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Postby [Q] on Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:28 am

Add Ray Allen at the 2 and shaq at center and you got yourself a team lol
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:53 pm

Success in the second pack!

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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:06 pm

Congratulations on pulling Pippen! An important thing to keep in mind with the legend packs is that they disappear after every Sunday, so be sure to save up on coins as soon as possible so you don't miss out an any more legends. That Shaq is a beast on defense by the way; for me, he averages 9 blocks per game, so save him for the Division Hero games if necessary (those get bumped up to All-Star difficulty)

I keep hearing from people that Pippen either can't dunk, or can rarely do so, so can anyone confirm this for me? I know this was an issue with Garnett about a month ago.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:22 pm

I ended up buying some NBA Points to get the Legend packs, just so that I didn't miss out on them this time. I had some left over, so that's how I boosted my team with some 2-for-1 All-Pro packs. Pippen's the player I wanted the most, so I'm content to grind for coins for future packs.

Just played a game, and now that you mention it, it does seem like there might be an issue with Pippen being unable to dunk. He laid it up on every drive for me, at any rate.

Getting close to completing both GM Task Lists. Haven't had any luck getting a head to head game, though.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:42 pm

I hope they fix that issue for Pippen soon. I remember since Garnett couldn't dunk, he got shut down by players like Embiid, the Lopez brothers, Porzingis, and Drummond on the higher difficulties. Just because a finish rating is higher, it doesn't mean that it will benefit like some others. The best example I can find is Master Iverson's finish rating, vs John Starks' finish rating. Iverson has a 90 finish rating, whereas Starks only has about a 76 or so, but since Starks can actually dunk, he won't get rejected 50/50 on higher difficulties (he can still get rejected from dunking, but it's not as frequent.
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Postby [Q] on Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:42 pm

My guess is that "Finishing" combines layups and dunks so you can have a high finish rating but be good at only one or the other. I'm jealous you got Pippen AND Lillard in the same pack. I've been wanting to get Lillard for a while now.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:43 pm

Yeah, definitely hope it's fixed.

Meanwhile, got a short term Horace Grant by finishing the Bulls Legends challenge.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:45 pm

My first pull was Horace Grant, along with a Draymond Green card, which is good, considering that I need Warriors players for Master Curry.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:20 pm

I'm quite a way off tackling any of those! I'm holding onto all the player cards (except doubles) for now, but I've started accumulating jerseys, courts, and logos to try to sell.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby [Q] on Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:31 pm

I wound up selling most of the cards I had so it sucks I have to rebuy the okc and wizards players I had once before.

I'm trying to find them super cheap so I can save for these legend packs. Unfortunately people are selling the worst cards for like 5000 because they know people are collecting them.

I got rodman on my first try and then I got Grant from the challenge.
I'm probably 10k short of another pack, so I have to play some heroes challenges or hope my cards sell to get coins
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[Q] wrote:Unfortunately people are selling the worst cards for like 5000 because they know people are collecting them.


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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:50 am

I know I'm not selling Rodman. Dude's a beast on the defensive end, and can surprisingly steal the ball pretty well.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:15 am

He's not bad at bringing the ball up the court and taking it to the basket, either. Not exactly sim, though!
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby [Q] on Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:36 am

Andrew wrote:
[Q] wrote:Unfortunately people are selling the worst cards for like 5000 because they know people are collecting them.


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If you have any garbage thunder or warriors players you might be able to squeeze 2 grand out of each
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:24 am

I'll have to take another look, but I believe I do.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:37 am

I can't sell a crappy player for more than 900 at times. I've been trying to sell 73 overall Felicio, and for literally 5 days, he didn't sell at all. I even put him at 700 and nobody purchased him.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:52 am

Supply and demand, I guess.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby [Q] on Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:29 am

Bronze I can sell for like 300-400 at most if I'm lucky. Silver I have trouble with. Can usually get like 800-1000. Gold I can easily get 2k

Also depends on the player. I couldn't sell sabonis at all this week.

Andrew if you have some thunder players to sell I will buy them from you lol
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:13 pm

Offhand, I believe I have Jerami Grant.
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby shinron15 on Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:17 pm

Don't have any Thunder players on me right now. Surprisingly, I never had a single Thunder player at all, even during the beginning of the game and Christmas Clash events.

I plan on finishing the Eastern Conference Heroes so I can get Elite Giannis and sell gold Giannis; iirc he goes for like 8k-10k
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Re: Live Ultimate Team - How is your team doing?

Postby [Q] on Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:52 pm

I was actually happy with Xmas redick and was willing to sell master curry but you can't auction him

I wound up getting a pippen on my second pack. I'll play a game with him and tmac to see who I like better. If I sell tmac I might wait to see if prices on him go up
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