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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:00 pm

wdt92 wrote:This is really neat! Does it take out the regular teams in the game?

Also, I noticed you said you converted the Nets floor from UBR (I assume 2K14). How difficult is that process to convert to 2K17 from 2K14?


Thanks. The default regular NBA teams will not be usable, the roster is comprised of literally only classic NBA teams. The default current teams are outdated anyway. If you still wanted to use them, you could always just keep a backup of your regular modded folder.

In regards to courts, converting from 2K14 to 2K17 is incredibly easy if it's already a one texture court. Takes a bit of time if you want to piece one together.

I haven't converted 2K17 to 2K14.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:33 pm

Had to share this quick clip.

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby wdt92 on Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:25 am

The graphics always amaze me, that looks like real life prime Kobe! Amazing. In regards to my previous question, I'm sorry if I confused you I did mean 2K14 -> 2K17. It is such an amazing mod, I can't really say it is a shame that it doesn't have the 2K17 default, however, for my purposes playing generally a season year onward with just one historical team, I guess it is.

One last question out of curiosity, have you found any ease of translating the cyber faces over from 2K14? Or has 2K17's graphics improved to the point where it would look terrible if tried? I ask because somewhere I read that a lot of the graphical improvements were actually lighting and not as much the cyber faces themselves. Thanks for answering my questions, man! :)
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:43 am

You can still use the default teams in another roster. And, the default classic teams are filled and still in my roster. It's like 81 total classic teams. That's the whole point of the mod.

All you have to do to use the current roster and take out my nodded folder... which takes like 30 seconds.

Faces from 2K14 look fine on 2K17, but the conversion process is tough. I converted the 2K14 Sam Bowie to 2K17, and added my own tweaks. PeacemanNot converted the Olajuwon, it came out really good.

But it's not easy by any stretch.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby wdt92 on Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:55 am

Dee4Three wrote:You can still use the default teams in another roster. And, the default classic teams are filled and still in my roster. It's like 81 total classic teams. That's the whole point of the mod.

All you have to do to use the current roster and take out my nodded folder... which takes like 30 seconds.

Faces from 2K14 look fine on 2K17, but the conversion process is tough. I converted the 2K14 Sam Bowie to 2K17, and added my own tweaks. PeacemanNot converted the Olajuwon, it came out really good.

But it's not easy by any stretch.


I'm sorry I misunderstood you before. I thought it was like used to be done for like 2K11-2K14 where you basically had to have 2 separate game folders for the huge mods like this. Since I had the game on Steam, and I am not 100% confident on their guidelines and rules to that sort of thing, I didn't want to do that. So I reread the first post after seeing my misunderstanding and I see now you definitely have it all in its own self-contained folder. That's awesome!

Now my question is, should I wait until after the Nets roster is complete before downloading, or will that be a small file just added to the original download?
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:23 pm

wdt92 wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:You can still use the default teams in another roster. And, the default classic teams are filled and still in my roster. It's like 81 total classic teams. That's the whole point of the mod.

All you have to do to use the current roster and take out my nodded folder... which takes like 30 seconds.

Faces from 2K14 look fine on 2K17, but the conversion process is tough. I converted the 2K14 Sam Bowie to 2K17, and added my own tweaks. PeacemanNot converted the Olajuwon, it came out really good.

But it's not easy by any stretch.


I'm sorry I misunderstood you before. I thought it was like used to be done for like 2K11-2K14 where you basically had to have 2 separate game folders for the huge mods like this. Since I had the game on Steam, and I am not 100% confident on their guidelines and rules to that sort of thing, I didn't want to do that. So I reread the first post after seeing my misunderstanding and I see now you definitely have it all in its own self-contained folder. That's awesome!

Now my question is, should I wait until after the Nets roster is complete before downloading, or will that be a small file just added to the original download?


Just saw this, my apologies.

This isn't released yet, you may need to wait a week or two.

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:09 pm

Here is an example of the 2K16 sound effects in 2K17.

Human vs Human gameplay, 00-01 Mavericks vs 06-07 Nuggets. The 00-01 Mavericks are not in the official V2, I made this team for my brother as a surprise.

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby sticky-fingers on Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:29 pm

Dee4Three wrote:REMINDER TO ALL: I am not releasing on the 24th, I am working on presentation enhancement and final touch-ups. Thank you for your patience, it will be worth it!!

Any new ETA ? :oops:
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:23 pm

sticky-fingers wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:REMINDER TO ALL: I am not releasing on the 24th, I am working on presentation enhancement and final touch-ups. Thank you for your patience, it will be worth it!!

Any new ETA ? :oops:


Possibly this weekend.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby sticky-fingers on Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:05 pm

thanx, i know the first rule is to never ask, but too hyped :mrgreen:
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:38 am

sticky-fingers wrote:thanx, i know the first rule is to never ask, but too hyped :mrgreen:


Totally understand. It's been quite awhile since I released V1.

Just trust me that it will be released shortly. I'm pretty excited to release it as well
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:21 am

had an amazing game last night against my brother, probably the best highlights ive uploaded.

This gives you a great idea of how the sliders work that I will share, I am the Warriors here. It also gives you an appreciation for the player movement with the October exe.

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Thunder Shaq on Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:32 am

Dee4Three wrote:had an amazing game last night against my brother, probably the best highlights ive uploaded.

This gives you a great idea of how the sliders work that I will share, I am the Warriors here. It also gives you an appreciation for the player movement with the October exe.

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I didn't realize 2k makes basketball games. The last two releases of the franchise have felt like a hockey game with all the skating on the court.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:09 pm

Bad news and good news.

Bad news first: I thought I was going to be able to release this roster with jukebox music and arena music.... that won't be the case. Importing into the archive and sharing the archive doesn't work the way I thought it would. Sorry guys.

Good news: This gives me more time to spruce up the presentation and do some other things with the roster.

Saturday I will be spending the majority of the day completing final touches.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby shazbot66 on Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:09 am

Dee4Three wrote:Possibly this weekend.


Stupid question, but this will included a roster ?
I simply can't wait to try this :D

So stupid I only found your ridiculousy awesome work a month ago! Thanks for the hard work!
I'm open to make a small donation -- maybe others do to!
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:10 am

shazbot66 wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:Possibly this weekend.


Stupid question, but this will included a roster ?
I simply can't wait to try this :D

So stupid I only found your ridiculousy awesome work a month ago! Thanks for the hard work!
I'm open to make a small donation -- maybe others do to!


A roster file will be included because the servers are shut down for 2K17.

No worries about a donation, I don't accept them.

Thanks for the offer though, appreciated!
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby bongo88 on Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:09 pm

here's an interesting image dump from the nba china servers posted to reddit today.

https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/b ... _pictures/

imgur album upload by sim888: https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/b ... s/elsj1ni/

anyways, there's a mix of old pics and recent pics. It seems like somebody took the old pictures and ran them through an upscale AI... similar to the Topaz Gigaplex .... or got a hold of the original photo/negative and did them by hand... but the imgur album are all 1080p

for instance here is the original rick barry/ wilt picture (627 x 600):
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(source) https://www.nba.com/media/10_600_071210.jpg

here is the imgur album 1080p picture:
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(source) https://i.imgur.com/hiPWJN5.jpg

anyways, on the original wilt picture (627 x 600) if you zoom in on the grate behind barry, there is no detail. but the imgur 1080p picture has lots of detail on the same grate. so either these original photo/negative upscaled or upscaled by AI similar to Gigaplex.

Figured, you'd like a look at it and maybe use some of them for your mod. the imgur album is still updating (new pics if u go refresh after a few minutes.... all pics wont be up for a few hours, i assume.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:05 pm

bongo88 wrote:here's an interesting image dump from the nba china servers posted to reddit today.

https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/b ... _pictures/

imgur album upload by sim888: https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/b ... s/elsj1ni/

anyways, there's a mix of old pics and recent pics. It seems like somebody took the old pictures and ran them through an upscale AI... similar to the Topaz Gigaplex .... or got a hold of the original photo/negative and did them by hand... but the imgur album are all 1080p

for instance here is the original rick barry/ wilt picture (627 x 600):
[ Image ]
(source) https://www.nba.com/media/10_600_071210.jpg

here is the imgur album 1080p picture:
[ Image ]
(source) https://i.imgur.com/hiPWJN5.jpg

anyways, on the original wilt picture (627 x 600) if you zoom in on the grate behind barry, there is no detail. but the imgur 1080p picture has lots of detail on the same grate. so either these original photo/negative upscaled or upscaled by AI similar to Gigaplex.

Figured, you'd like a look at it and maybe use some of them for your mod. the imgur album is still updating (new pics if u go refresh after a few minutes.... all pics wont be up for a few hours, i assume.


This is really helpful, thanks.

These are good choices because the photos have wiggle room at the top, I need that for the loading screens.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:59 pm

FINAL RELEASE DATE SET!
05/01/2019

So yes, not this weekend. But, that is a hard date, and it won't change. This weekend is dedicated to final touches.

Thank you all for your patience!
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Release date 05/01/2019 - PC

Postby Andrew on Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:06 pm

Good luck with the home stretch!
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Release date 05/01/2019 - PC

Postby wdt92 on Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:45 am

Look forward to seeing it. :D
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Release date 05/01/2019 - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:11 am

TimmyD,

Sorry, I won't have the time to put your Raptors team in V2. I'm going to have to keep it at 40 new teams.

Final touch ups were slightly interrupted by knee surgery (I just had the same one as Blake Griffin), so I haven't been able to add two more teams like I wanted too.

The release will be Wednesday for V2, if a V3 gets released I'll put your Raptors team in!
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Release date 05/01/2019 - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:40 am

Worked on a younger, more athletic looking Ray Allen for you guys.

I made him a custom body, and he no longer looks like Uncle Fester from the Addams Family. I thinned out his jaw and neck as well.

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Release date 05/01/2019 - PC

Postby sticky-fingers on Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:55 am

Great Ray Ray

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Release date 05/01/2019 - PC

Postby wdt92 on Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:15 am

Hope your knee heals up! That is definitely rough, he's having to go through surgery right now from what I saw.
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