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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Placeholder - WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:08 pm

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Dee4Three wrote:I'm going to say this with kindness as opposed to frustration...

My fantasy draft roster took over 100 hours to complete, and it is by far the most complete roster on 2k share. To see rosters that took 2 seconds to put together that gets double the downloads (mine has 810, a roster with the 00-01 Kobe placed on the Lakers and no other changes has almost 2000 downloads) kinda bummed me out for a minute.

Or to see a roster that has one added team (09-10 Lakers) with portraits of the players with other teams (Odom with clippers, vujacic with Knicks etc) no team name change, nothing else really done with the roster, having over 3000 downloads...

But, when I got to thinking about it. It's about the quality of the project, and creating something like no other as a team. This roster may not get AS many downloads because it will require a sizeable mod pack, and to see the mod pack people will need to visit NLSC, but those people will get the ultimate experience.

I hope all of you are excited for this project as well as the Draft roster. Some great modders are working with me on this, and it will be the best roster in the next gen era.

Sorry for the long post, just needed to express my appreciation for those WHO ARE tuning into these projects and who are working on them. My draft roster is the first roster that requires a mod pack (correct me if I'm wrong). So I should be happy with the results.

Let's get to work people.


I literally just looked at this in the game and was thinking the same thing. Another thing, I know for a fact that some of the other roster are promoted on chinese forums. I've seen it first hand.


Edit: Also the roster names are more descriptive than yours.


Yeah, I wasn't just gonna call it Draft Roster or something. Part of me likes the way it is, it was just a bummed out moment that lasted a few seconds.

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Placeholder - WIP - PC

Postby PeacemanNOT on Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:40 am

The reason I'm not doing much is because I have barely any time. Personally I think your release date is a bit ambitious, but then again who knows. Btw, you keep telling me you're gonna send me a list of players that need to be fixed/made but I havent got one yet :P
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Placeholder - WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:43 am

PeacemanNOT wrote:The reason I'm not doing much is because I have barely any time. Personally I think your release date is a bit ambitious, but then again who knows. Btw, you keep telling me you're gonna send me a list of players that need to be fixed/made but I havent got one yet :P


Haha, sorry. I didn't because you were still working on Camby and I didn't want to overwhelm you. I was going to send once I had Camby.

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - Placeholder - WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:11 am

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I need some help. So I added up the players to make this mod accurate, and we are looking at 50-60 (If we don't include the 82-83 Spurs and 66-67 Warriors, around 80 if we include those two. These cyberfaces would be used to fill the default classic teams in the game, and add the new teams. I have PeacemanNOT working on CF's for me, but that is far too many for one man to handle. TBM will be doing quick edits and shrink wrapping, which is a lot. Is there anybody willing to assists with some of the faces? I can provide the textures from the URB (I gained permission from Skoadam), and I can also give you the lookalike to make it easer.

Any help would be appreciated. I don't want this project to die.
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Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:43 am

Even if we just got two more people on board and did 15 per person. That would get us where we need to be.
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Postby TGsoGood on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:17 pm

I wish I could help but I will not do any faces until I figure out how to add CFs to the game with overwriting a CF. I don't want to replace any players I just want to be able to use totally new CF IDs. I think this will help your project also because people will not have to "turn" modded CFs "on and off". I think I am close. If my current thinking is correct we would also be able to add unlimited number of uniforms, stadiums, and crowd art without replacing current files just like the old days.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:21 pm

TGsoGood wrote:I wish I could help but I will not do any faces until I figure out how to add CFs to the game with overwriting a CF. I don't want to replace any players I just want to be able to use totally new CF IDs. I think this will help your project also because people will not have to "turn" modded CFs "on and off". I think I am close. If my current thinking is correct we would also be able to add unlimited number of uniforms, stadiums, and crowd art without replacing current files just like the old days.


That would be amazing. Thanks for looking into it.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Manni Live on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:22 pm

Im off of work for a week and getting a new PC so ill have plenty of time ill whip up some courts.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:26 pm

Manni Live wrote:Im off of work for a week and getting a new PC so ill have plenty of time ill whip up some courts.


Thanks man, I'm doing some of them as well (not ones I sent you)

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Postby Manni Live on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:35 pm

Dee4Three, Which one would you want first?
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:37 pm

Manni Live wrote:Dee4Three, Which one would you want first?


It doesn't matter. Any one that you do that I sent you has a purpose. All those teams WILL be in this. So it doesn't matter. That's why it was awesome to get the 04-05 Spurs from you. They all matter.

Choose your favorite out of the bunch.
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Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:30 pm

Btw, I was watching finals footage of Lakers vs Celtics in 2010. Artest hadn't changed his name yet. On the 09-10 Lakers in this roster his name with be Ron Artest.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:43 pm

NEW Teams completed on my end with portraits and players (99%) This includes the players complete makeup including contracts:

10-11 Mavericks
09-10 Lakers
92-93 Suns
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06-07 Nuggets (Missing Camby)

That's a lot of progress to go along with the half the default classic teams filled. I will continue to complete teams. For players that still need a CF made, I will complete the player completely so all we will have to do is plug the CF in when ready.
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Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:23 am

Progress updates coming later
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby diamenz on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:07 am

Dee4Three wrote:NEW Teams completed on my end with portraits and players (99%) This includes the players complete makeup including contracts:

10-11 Mavericks
09-10 Lakers
92-93 Suns
11-12 Thunder
06-07 Nuggets (Missing Camby)

That's a lot of progress to go along with the half the default classic teams filled. I will continue to complete teams. For players that still need a CF made, I will complete the player completely so all we will have to do is plug the CF in when ready.


those are some great teams right there - been wanting to pit some retros against the 11 mavs and 12 thunder for years. keep on truckin' mayne.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:28 am

diamenz wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:NEW Teams completed on my end with portraits and players (99%) This includes the players complete makeup including contracts:

10-11 Mavericks
09-10 Lakers
92-93 Suns
11-12 Thunder
06-07 Nuggets (Missing Camby)

That's a lot of progress to go along with the half the default classic teams filled. I will continue to complete teams. For players that still need a CF made, I will complete the player completely so all we will have to do is plug the CF in when ready.


those are some great teams right there - been wanting to pit some retros against the 11 mavs and 12 thunder for years. keep on truckin' mayne.


Working on it. I have the first two weeks of November off from work. I'll be doing A TON. Right now I'm working on finishing off these teams, doing some more on the classic teams, and my brother is working on portraits. We will be at it for another 5 hours or so.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:53 am

Also, I want to point out. When this is released, people are to ask me permission before using the portraits. That goes for the creator of Han Roster (if you see this). He used PeacemanNots Nash in his own roster without asking him permission. Yes, I know that peace didn't put it out there that someone should. But it's the point. I'd never share a roster with MY NAME (HAN Roster) or take ownership, when I didn't give credit or help with the roster, or make the material.

These portraits take HOURS upon HOURS. I expect respect in regards to the work not only I do on this roster, work my brother does, and the others work that goes on this roster.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:20 pm

We had a thunderstorm that knocked out power for a couple hours. I will post the progress tomorrow.

The progress posted will show the new portraits for the players (very accurate) and gameplay footage of 92-93 Suns at 09-10 Lakers.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby ass123 on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:09 am

Dee4Three wrote:Also, I want to point out. When this is released, people are to ask me permission before using the portraits. That goes for the creator of Han Roster (if you see this). He used PeacemanNots Nash in his own roster without asking him permission. Yes, I know that peace didn't put it out there that someone should. But it's the point. I'd never share a roster with MY NAME (HAN Roster) or take ownership, when I didn't give credit or help with the roster, or make the material.

These portraits take HOURS upon HOURS. I expect respect in regards to the work not only I do on this roster, work my brother does, and the others work that goes on this roster.




Hi everyone, I'm here to clear things out on behalf of Han roster. According to the Chinese 2k forum's policy, if someone is to include a piece of work in their own mod that(the piece of work) is made by someone else or by foreign patch makers in this case, one must put the original maker's name or id as paying a tribute to the original maker. If you go to the Chinese forum and you happen to understand Chinese, you can see that in Han roster's post, the dude did mention that Steve Nash cyberface was made by PeacemanNOT. So technically, he didn't just ignore the original maker and share it as his own work.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:11 am

ass123 wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:Also, I want to point out. When this is released, people are to ask me permission before using the portraits. That goes for the creator of Han Roster (if you see this). He used PeacemanNots Nash in his own roster without asking him permission. Yes, I know that peace didn't put it out there that someone should. But it's the point. I'd never share a roster with MY NAME (HAN Roster) or take ownership, when I didn't give credit or help with the roster, or make the material.

These portraits take HOURS upon HOURS. I expect respect in regards to the work not only I do on this roster, work my brother does, and the others work that goes on this roster.




Hi everyone, I'm here to clear things out on behalf of Han roster. According to the Chinese 2k forum, if someone is to include a piece of work in their own mod that is made by someone else or by foreign patch makers in this case, one must put the original maker's name or id as paying a tribute to the original maker. If you go to the Chinese forum and you happen to understand Chinese, you can see that in Han roster's post, the dude did mention that Steve Nash cyberface was made by PeacemanNOT. So technically, he didn't just ignore the original maker and share it as his own work.
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Thank you for clearing that up!!!. I was just trying to keep things fair.

I really appreciate you showing that here.
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Postby PeacemanNOT on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:13 am

That definitely wasn't there before, he must have added it in. I don't really mind anyways.
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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - ASKING ASSISTANCE- WIP - PC

Postby Dee4Three on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:16 am

PeacemanNOT wrote:That definitely wasn't there before, he must have added it in. I don't really mind anyways.


Yes, for the record. PeacemanNOT never said anything about it. It was me. I see all the work being put in by everybody this year, so I felt the need to speak up.

I'll make sure to let the modders themselves speak up from now on.

Sorry for the confusion guys. I think this project is just exhausting me a tad. But it's worth it.
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Postby Dee4Three on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:52 am

Also, before ass123 made the post on this thread. I asked him permission to use his Kobe's in my rosters. However, after I saw his post here, I sent him another message stating that I understand if he didn't want to give me permission for the use, and apologized for the mixup.

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Postby ass123 on Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:54 am

Dee4Three wrote:Also, before ass123 made the post on this thread. I asked him permission to use his Kobe's in my rosters. However, after I saw his post here, I sent him another message stating that I understand if he didn't want to give me permission for the use, and apologized for the mixup.

So if he releases his Kobes, and I don't get permission, I understand.



oops i spent more time on the Chinese forum i didnt notice the message u sent me. sorry.
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Postby PeacemanNOT on Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:56 am

ass123 wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:Also, before ass123 made the post on this thread. I asked him permission to use his Kobe's in my rosters. However, after I saw his post here, I sent him another message stating that I understand if he didn't want to give me permission for the use, and apologized for the mixup.

So if he releases his Kobes, and I don't get permission, I understand.



oops i spent more time on the Chinese forum i didnt notice the message u sent me. sorry.

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