D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:05 am

sticky-fingers wrote:Pretty good, his face is so hard to make btw


Hes really tough.

When I get home I'm going to fix the eyebrows, lopsided nose,and make a few other touchups
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:33 am

Reggie Miller final

ALso modified his body a bit so he was slimmer like in real life.

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Extra motivation for me to do the 99-00 Pacers or 03-04 Pacers
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Andrew on Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:56 pm

That's come out really well, especially given how notoriously hard it is to make Reggie faces. Nice job!
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:57 pm

Made a couple more final adjustments.

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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:55 pm

99-00 Pacers are done.

Moving onto the 05-06 Nets
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:57 am

Fixed the default Barkley from 2K16 (That just wasn't very good. I also gave him a better body

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This was the default

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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:13 pm

Definitely an improvement.
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:43 am

Andrew wrote:Definitely an improvement.


Thanks!

The default face they had for him hidden in 2K16 looked... incredibly round and facial features were misplaced. His blender model looked almost identical to Jared Dudley, almost like they made a texture for Barkley and put it over Jared Dudley's model.

Unfortunately, we have not figured out 2K17 to 2K16 conversions, so this will have to do for now. I'd love the bring the Dream Team Barkley over.
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:34 am

So with the 05-06 Nets in progress, I am trying to decide how far I want this mod to go.

20 teams?
30 teams?

I cant see myself making more than 30. I am already at around 13 created, and have a few more I want to get done in the short term.

I plan on hiding any teams that are not classic teams, including all the euro teams I dont use. It makes for a much cleaner and user friendly roster.
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby sticky-fingers on Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:54 am

20 would be a good start, 30 would be amazing.
An pretty easy but very good move would be to add various teams USA (including 92DT, Redeem Team etc) like Han did on his 2K17 roster :idea:
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:01 am

sticky-fingers wrote:20 would be a good start, 30 would be amazing.
An pretty easy but very good move would be to add various teams USA (including 92DT, Redeem Team etc) like Han did on his 2K17 roster :idea:


It's a lot of work, but I'll see what I can do. No promises in USA teams, but 20 teams will be released no matter what, with the hope that I have the time and motivation for 30.

Still motivated at the moment, completing 2 teams per week would be ideal.

Unfortunately its not an easy move to add the USA teams. I would have to spend the same amount of time creating those teams as I do the other classic teams I am putting in.
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:25 am

PROGRESS REPORT

Teams completed (A few art things still need to be done and touchups on ratings on a couple, but they are mostly 100%)

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Next up, the 82-83 76ers and the 06-07 Mavericks. I made a really good Dampier for 2K17, sadly it can't be converted at this point, so I am going to try my hand at hum again from scratch.
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:32 pm

Awesome!
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:37 am

Andrew wrote:Awesome!


Thanks!

I don't know if people realize this, but this game is just as moddable as 2K17 through 2K20, we just didnt understand cheat engine enough when the game was in its regular yearly cycle.

It's a shame, I can literally do all the things I could do in Cheat Engine on this game, that I did on 2K17. We could legitimately have a UBR roster if enough modders came on board, with everything looking ridiculously accurate. We can change audio IDs, importing portraits and dornas, make and assign arenas and stadiums, edit jerseys, edit short lengths edit team names, etc etc etc. In reality, this game doesn't have any more limitations than 2K20 for modding...

The only draw back would be that we would have to have a separate roster file and separate modded folder for each season, but is that really that bad? It takes 30 seconds to replace your modded folder.

Player DNA can actually be done through CE, so while it's easier in 2K20, it can still be done on 2K16.

Again, just find it to be a shame that more modders have left other past games on this gen in the dust. Once 2K20 moves onto 2K21, it will be "on to the next one", as the large majority will move onto the new game, and toss nodding aside in favor of the new title, and the cycle continues.

Props to those who stick around and mod 2K14, 2K13, 2K11, and even older Live titles. You guys "get it". How does anybody think that big roster mods that are done completely and accurately (especially season by season) is going to be done in one calendar year? Or one calendar year with only a couple people working on it? Hawk has an ENTIRE TEAM of modders working with him, cyberface makers, court creators, arena makers, dornan makers, etc, If you think we are going to get a UBR type project completed in one calendar year with 2 or 3 people working on it, you are insane.

I'm glad I keep working on 2K16 and 2K17. Just wish more people saw the big picture with roster mods. I keep hearing people complain that no "UBR" exists for this gen, or they wish one did, but that will never happen if people keep just jumping onto the new game, and not forming teams big enough to do such a project.
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Andrew on Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:12 pm

That's really cool. As far as the switching modded folders goes, could JSGME be a viable solution there?
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:24 pm

Andrew wrote:That's really cool. As far as the switching modded folders goes, could JSGME be a viable solution there?


I'll have to look into it, and I also wonder if this being a different generation of 2K's (And a completely different file structure) if that path would be possible.

However, that rant was more of just.. well.. a rant. I don't think we could get the attention on 2K16 to do single season mods, unfortunately.
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:35 pm

Here are the courts for the teams already created

08-09 Magic (Sticky Fingers original, and I did a slight wood texture color edit)

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10-11 Bulls (Manni created this for 2k17, i converted to 2K20)

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13-14 Clippers (Made by Sticky Fingers)

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08-09 Lakers court (I converted from retromans work on 2K14, he has given me permission prior)

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10-11 Mavericks (Converted from retromans work on 2K14)

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05-06 Nets (made by Sticky Fingers)

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06-07 Nuggets (I converted from Retromans work on 2K14)

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11-12 Thunder (Manni Live I believe)

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99-00 Pacers (Made by Sticky Fingers)

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13-14 Spurs (Made by Sticky Fingers)

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92-93 Sunds (I converted from Retroman on 2K14)

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14-15 Warriors (Manni Live I believe, and it's still accurate for that year)

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15-16 Cavs (Manni Live again I believe)

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A few of these courts were the work of Manni Live for when 2K16 was new, if I mistakenly called one of the above his, and it's someone elses, please let me know so I can change the credits. Retroman has already given me permission in the past to use his courts on this gen (THANK YOU), so I have converted several of his to 2K16. Sticky has been awesome and volunteered to make courts for the project, so thank you. He does a great job.
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby sticky-fingers on Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:49 pm

It looks good (y) thanx for the credits.
BTW Dont you use my 05 Nets floor ?
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:33 pm

sticky-fingers wrote:It looks good (y) thanx for the credits.
BTW Dont you use my 05 Nets floor ?


Woops, yes. Just changed it
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Re: D43 Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - WIP (No date set)

Postby sticky-fingers on Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:56 pm

Ah ok, it looked like mine, but i wasnt sure :)
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