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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Lamrock on Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:37 am

Made a third person after getting some MS Points to get the DLC's. Even on my third playthrough (though I only made it like halfway through my evil one), it's unbelievably addicting and taking over my life again. Bravo Obsidian, for combining the accessibility and immersion of Fallout 3, with the RPG elements and replay value from the first game.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:50 pm

What kind of character builds do you favour?

I must admit that even when I change things up a bit, I often end up playing the game a similar way. I've usually preferred fairly balanced characters, sacrificing Luck for a couple of extra points elsewhere. However, in one of my NV playthroughs I sacrificed strength for 9s in Intelligence, Luck and Perception (that was the character I used to break the bank at all the casinos to get the achievement, much easier with a Luck of 7 or more). It didn't change the game for me that much, it just made it a little tougher to loot since I couldn't carry as much. Of course, with a couple of companions that needn't matter.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Pdub on Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:11 pm

Ironically, the name of my character is Asshole, but my karma rating is good messiah. I meant to make the play through as evil as possible, but I didn't see the benefit in most of the quests. So, I see what your saying, as I end up playing it in a similar way.

Backtracked to a save before committing to any faction so I could try finishing for the legion. Every time I try to go back to the fort the game crashes. Bummer.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:16 pm

I think it's a little harder to finish up as an evil character in New Vegas. Once you start doing the quests that involve heading into Fiend territory, you start getting a lot of good karma which balances things out and then eventually tips the scale. Because Fallout 3 tended to have Good, Bad and Neutral Karma options to finish quests with sizeable karma boosts/hits accordingly, it was easier to remain evil without having to steal a bunch of stuff or have the cannibal perk to constantly reduce your karma meter in between quests.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Lamrock on Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:26 pm

I usually go for Independent Vegas with an NCR leaning and good karma. I play differently each time but my builds are similar to yours. Strength, Charisma (just tag Speech) and to a lesser extend, endurance are sacrificed for godly intelligence and very good agility and Perception. I like having luck at 5.

The karma system in Fallout 3 was retarded. It was dumb having an evil character be revered as a saint because I didn't want to undermine the entire campaign by bombing the Citadel. Fiend territory balances things out here but I tend to wipe out towns for loot when evil.

I have well over 20000 caps saved up. Is the regenerative implant worth it?
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:37 pm

I haven't tried out any of the implants as yet. You can certainly get by without them but I'm a believer in trying everything the game has to offer, so I'm planning on giving them a shot in the game where I have over 120,000 caps. That's the game where I've broken the bank at every casino on the Strip as well as the Atomic Wrangler, Vikki & Vance and the Sierra Madre.

The karma system in Fallout 3 was a bit flawed; it wasn't completely illogical, you can see what they were going for but it wasn't executed as well as it could've been. The problem is that the main quest was fairly linear and didn't have the branching that New Vegas does, so your options were more limited. If we'd been able to side with the Enclave, it would've worked out better. But it was their first shot at it, with the improvements that New Vegas has made I expect Fallout 4 will be an improvement once again.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby bowdown on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:38 am

Just ordered New Vegas. Hopefully it delivers. BTW...

If you had never played Fallout 3 and were just to buy and play Fallout New Vegas, with the current improvement patches also in mind...how would you rate New vegas out of 10?
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Oznogrd on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:25 am

bowdown wrote:Just ordered New Vegas. Hopefully it delivers. BTW...

If you had never played Fallout 3 and were just to buy and play Fallout New Vegas, with the current improvement patches also in mind...how would you rate New vegas out of 10?


8 because i ran into a couple of glitches that were severe. Otherwise its a solid 9 i'd say.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Lamrock on Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:05 am

Fallout 3's a solid 9 as long as you didn't play the first two games. Basically Oblivion if Oblivion didn't suck. I'd give New Vegas a 9 as well. I like it a lot more and think it's a better game but I run into a couple glitches an hour.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Oznogrd on Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:18 am

ive run into maybe..4 glitches in my entire 1st playthrough. Couple were quest breaking though.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Lamrock on Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:28 am

Really? I get stuck in scenery all the time (happened like five times during that one quest where you need to climb that mountain to find that Kahn hideout), get a freeze every couple hours, and had a couple things break quests. Love the game (as evidenced by this being my third playthrough), but it was rushed
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:49 am

bowdown wrote:If you had never played Fallout 3 and were just to buy and play Fallout New Vegas, with the current improvement patches also in mind...how would you rate New vegas out of 10?


You already asked us that. ;)

For whatever numerical ratings are worth, I'd still give it at least a nine in any event. It's an immersive game that you can sink a lot of time into. It's a lot of fun.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby bowdown on Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:48 pm

Yeah I know I already asked but I asked in a different manner again because I felt like some people might give New Vegas a low rating because it is said to be more of an expansion of fallout 3 and not actually a true sequel. So I was like what if New Vegas was released with Fallout 3 never being released int he first place to compare against
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:05 pm

Splitting hairs, really. Any way you slice it, it's a really good game.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:53 pm

Flip a coin to decide. This level of indecisiveness for a video game is ridiculous, imo.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:00 pm

He's already ordered it.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby bowdown on Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:27 pm

To me it is a big deal if I play an inferior version of a game when the superior is just as easily available
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Lamrock on Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:33 pm

New Vegas is better. Would make more sense for it to be called Fallout 3, and F3 to be called something like Fallout: New DC as New Vegas's storyline comes after and reference's Fallout 2's far more than Fallout 3's.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:32 am

And we have mentioned that a couple of times now. Fallout 3 is a great game too but New Vegas has had the benefit of some of the original developers being on board and having Fallout 3 to build upon as far as the current engine and new audience is concerned. If you've got the means, I'd still recommend picking up them both and playing them because they're both fun and immersive gaming experiences but since you've already ordered New Vegas, I'd say that's a good call.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby bowdown on Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:31 pm

Thanks for all the info guys
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:30 am

No problem. (Y)

Meanwhile, the Old World Blues DLC will be out later this month.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Lamrock on Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:54 pm

Can't wait to finally meet Ulysses (Y)
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:21 pm

Yeah I'm looking forward to that too. That's Lonesome Road though, Old World Blues will take place in The Divide and explore technology/history of the assorted mutated animals of the Mojave.
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby bowdown on Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:37 am

Good God. Finally arrived after a long ass wait. Im gonna finish ME2 though first before playing this. I wanna peacefully transition over without feeling like I need to flip back and forth into games.

EDIT:

So I just started playing and it is ofcourse not that exciting yet because Ive just done only the mundane objectives and walking around so far.

I had a couple questions btw.

I have heard people having trouble with their Save Games. Since I am playing this game through Steam I would assume all the patches are up to date. Do I need to take precautions and make multiple save files for my game still?

And do you think playing with a xbox360 controller would be more fun?
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Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Postby Andrew on Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:25 pm

I think most of those issues have been saved but as a rule, I like to keep at least a couple of recent manual saves on hand. Better to be safe than sorry and if nothing else, it saves you having to start over or have to re-load from a really old save if you mess something up or happen to save/autosave when you've gotten yourself into a tough spot.

After originally playing Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360, it took me a bit of getting used to the keyboard/mouse controls when I picked up the PC version but now I'd say it's my preferred method, more precise than fooling around with the analog sticks.
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