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Postby JaoSming on Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:19 am

Eh, I've seen the leaked videos from early copies of the game (actually, I got to hold the game today :lol: ) so the G4 exclusive gameplay / review videos don't excite me like they did earlier in the week.

EDIT: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/869/869381p1.html

IGN review w/ video review 10/10
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Postby Jing on Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:24 am

LOL damn after that he didn't get wasted? incredible.
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Postby Sauru on Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:48 am

1 more day and its finally mine. already took tuesday off work lol
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Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:19 pm

Pdub wrote:Who is Jack Thompson?


He's a lawyer who's led various crusades against video games with adult or otherwise objectionable content. He's pretty blunt and outspoken about his beliefs. His Wikipedia entry includes a history of his antics.
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Postby JaoSming on Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:05 pm

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Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:06 pm

Very cool. Looks like a lot of the traditional elements established in GTA3 onwards will be present so there'll be familiarity for returning players.
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Postby Matthew on Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:01 pm

In 9 hours this game will be mine :crazy:
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Postby Chino on Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:34 pm

Wow! :shock: Awesome game. (Y)
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Postby Andrew on Fri May 02, 2008 11:12 am

In case you're wondering where the latest GTA IV posts went, they haven't been deleted. They've been split off into their own thread, partly to keep spoilers out of this thread and keep it dedicated to the series as a whole but mainly because GTA IV is deserving of its own thread here in the Video Games section.
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Postby benji on Sat May 03, 2008 10:41 am

Maybe this should go in the IV thread...if so move it...
Grand Theft Auto's clothes same as before; invisible, please join in pointing it out
I'm not a huge fan of Grand Theft Auto. I got my giggles from the top-down games on PC and PSone over a decade ago and found Grand Theft Auto III and its subsequent PS2 spawn to be more of the same, but buggier. Needless to say, I wasn't among the choir joyously welcoming the franchise to the HD era. I have to admit, GTA IV's swelling hype that seemed to sway respected coworkers who previously shared my general dislike of the series planted in my mind the idea that this go round things might be different. With early impressions of gameplay filtering into the office, I almost believed that Rockstar had crafted, for once, a polished product worthy of the celebration.

That impression lasted all of one second when I saw the game played in front of me, and a week's worth of personal playtime confirms my conditioned reservations with regard to modern Grand Theft Auto. Grand Theft Auto IV is the same as its PS2 precursors, plagued by mostly identical design and execution faults that kept me from drinking the preemtive rounds of Kool-Aid in the weeks before IV's release. Its flaws are flagrant and copious, but Grand Theft Auto IV is nevertheless the most critically acclaimed video game of ever and this fact is hurting my brain.
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Grand Theft Auto is and always has been instantly entertaining in the sense that seeing someone get kicked in the nuts is hilarious comedy, but any deeper critical look at the games reveals both myriad technical flaws and a sucking void of substance, unbecoming traits passed on to Grand Theft Auto IV. Not one of the game's play mechanics is especially well done, most are sloppy at best. There is no depth to Grand Theft Auto gameplay. There are no systems to master. There is nothing but a multitude of shallow options.
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Grand Theft Auto IV fails to deliver gameplay with more depth than an average YouTube clip spread by IM, and moreover fails technically with camera control issues, constant framerate hiccups, disjointed animation, and sloppy controls.

It's not that I don't get why everyone loves GTA--I get it. But as someone that feels video gaming is more than a brainless distraction, I take serious issue with the assertion that Grand Theft Auto IV is as good as it gets. Video gaming is better than this crap.

I would agree with much of this critique of the series. I was more than burned out on the series two-thirds of the way through Vice City, and with each game I eventually lost interest because of the lousy gameplay. I gave up on San Andreas very early because it just felt like a chore to do anything outside of just wandering around to see the sights. And the requirement to actually play through missions to unlock areas played the largest part in killing my interest in the series.

Of course, this also came during the evolution in my game tastes...
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Postby Matthew on Sat May 03, 2008 1:37 pm

And the backlash begins. From the moment I played this game I could tell it wasn't worthy of a perfect 100/100 score (something that I said which Jaosming brilliantly refuted by pointing out it was worthy because it didn't annoy him...), but it's still a very very good game.

What you have quoted, Ben, is a little exaggerated. The shooting system in GTA 4 isn't the best, but its not the worst either. It's on Uncharted's level, which is below gears of war and r6v. The framerate isn't a problem with me. I don't have a problem with it. And the storyline is alot deeper then someone getting kicked in the nuts. I won't go into it here because there's probably alot of people reading this who aren't as far into the missions as I am but the more I play it, the better it's becoming.

Was there hype? Sure. There always is with huge release titles. People should be able to remove a game from the hype and look at it objectively. But they can't and either become fanbois or will just the game.
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Postby ixcuincle on Sat May 03, 2008 1:38 pm

The thing is the missions can actually be quite fun. At first I was upset when I tried to cross the bridge into Las Venturas and got a Wanted level , but the missions that lead up to Las Venturas finally being unlocked wasn't a bad experience to go through.

I do admit though , that once you do beat the game there really isn't much incentive to play the game further. Once I beat San Andreas I basically stopped playing after that , however San Andreas did not offer a multiplayer option with as many fun diversions that IV provides.
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Postby benji on Sat May 03, 2008 1:51 pm

Matthew wrote:What you have quoted, Ben, is a little exaggerated. The shooting system in GTA 4 isn't the best, but its not the worst either.

I assume so, but I won't play GTA IV until its PC release, but regarding the earlier titles in the series I would mostly agree.
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Postby Sauru on Sun May 04, 2008 11:25 am

best part of gta is the low brow humor. the ability to just do absolutly nothing and have fun. games dont need to have shit loads of complex things to be fun, just look at the sims(might not get much love here but cant deny its success). the game has flaws for sure, but so does every other game i have ever played. personally i wish they spent more time working on the single player portion of the game. add as much to that as possible. i think whenever a games goes for the multi player they always hurt the single player in the process, and even though i like to play some mutli games sell me on the single
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Postby Andrew on Sun May 04, 2008 12:39 pm

I can see where that critique is coming from but honestly I've never been bothered by GTA's controls being simplistic, nor have I come across any glitch that renders the game completely unenjoyable. If that means I have lower standards when it comes to games of that genre or less discriminating tastes, so be it. The GTA games offer their own challenge and experience, I don't feel I'm being cheated by a more simplistic approach but that's just me.
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Postby Lamrock on Tue May 06, 2008 3:51 pm

I'm waiting for GTA4, so to hold me off, I'm playing the PC version of GTA3 I just got.

Haven't played it in years; its still pretty fun! I suck though. Can't adjust to the keyboard yet. Been playing since yesterday, and only 8% and stuck in Portland. If/after I beat this and GTA4, I want to get VC and SA for PC and play them.
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Postby [Q] on Tue May 06, 2008 4:27 pm

ehhh... what are you waiting for? a console?
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Postby Lamrock on Wed May 07, 2008 2:29 am

I just got mine back the other day. I'm waiting to get $60.
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Postby shadowgrin on Wed May 07, 2008 3:08 am

Can't you just steal from an old woman at the street?
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Postby Sauru on Wed May 07, 2008 3:29 am

see, this proves lamrock doesnt know shit. if he was smart he would have waited around the corner of a gamestop at midnight and then jumped the first dude to walk out with the game. no one would have helped the guy either cause they wouldnt want to lose thier place.
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Postby Andrew on Wed May 07, 2008 9:33 am

If we're to believe Jack Thompson, that's what GTA's producers want you to do.
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Postby Sauru on Wed May 07, 2008 9:55 am

i know thats what i did. i beat up some guy, stole another car, ran off 8 people and when i got home i shot my neighbor for no reason
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Postby Andrew on Wed May 07, 2008 10:24 am

Imagine what you'll do now that you've been playing it for a while.
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Postby Lamrock on Wed May 07, 2008 12:29 pm

Sauru wrote:see, this proves lamrock doesnt know shit. if he was smart he would have waited around the corner of a gamestop at midnight and then jumped the first dude to walk out with the game. no one would have helped the guy either cause they wouldnt want to lose thier place.

I did, but some guy wearing a Kyle Korver jersey jumped me afterwards.
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Postby shadowgrin on Sun May 11, 2008 7:41 am

Lamrock93 wrote:some guy wearing a Kyle Korver jersey jumped me afterwards.

Now that's a real life and death situation. Glad you survived that ordeal in one piece Lamrock. Those Korver fanatics are real cutthroats. Bastards I say.
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Re: Random GTA Talk Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:20 am

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Because I'm gravedigging with this thread, you see. Ahem.

I've been playing San Andreas again on PC, to get in the mood for GTA V. I'm guessing I've grown more patient and more strategic as I've gotten older, as I managed to get past the mission I was stuck on towards the end of the Los Santos chapter (ridiculously early on in the game, I know) and finally got through to the next chapter. It's been fun to pick it up again and actually see some new stuff, outside of videos on YouTube.
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Postby JaoSming on Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:43 am

you never finished GTA SA?
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Postby Andrew on Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:44 am

Nope, never did. I put it aside years ago when I got stuck and never got back into it, but felt like giving it another shot recently.
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Postby Lamrock on Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:20 am

I never quite finished San Andreas but I used to mess around with my brother's completed save. Couldn't beat the David Cross RC mission. Amazing game though.
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Postby Sauru on Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:54 pm

Lamrock wrote:I never quite finished San Andreas but I used to mess around with my brother's completed save. Couldn't beat the David Cross RC mission. Amazing game though.



fuck that mission. i mean really fucking fuck that fucking mission
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Postby Andrew on Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:58 pm

I'm dreading any of the flying missions, but for now I'll enjoy the new scenery and missions I should've gotten to a long time ago.
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Postby ixcuincle on Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:57 pm

First time I beat GTA:SA, it was using cheat codes. Beat it clean the second time around, although the flying missions are pretty difficult to do with a keyboard and mouse.

I had to outsource the save to another forum. Other than the flying missions, it's a pretty fun experience.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:15 pm

I'm using a dual analog gamepad for the most part, with some functions assigned to the keyboard.
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Postby Andrew on Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:21 am

Well, that's different.
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Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:51 pm

So I picked up GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas for PS4 some time back as they were on sale, and I'm a sucker for double-dipping like that with old favourites if the price is right. What I'd really like to see is a PS4 re-release of Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories, since I only have them on PS2, and it'd be convenient to be able to fire them up on my current console.

Fortunately, it's looking like that's going to happen at some point. Still no release date as yet, but it would seem that they're in the pipeline. Again, I'll gladly double-dip for the convenience, especially since Liberty City Stories is probably my favourite GTA game. It's certainly up there.

As an aside, I was playing through the ambulance missions in GTA III on PS4, and got to Level 15; completing that grants unlimited sprint. I picked up the last patients and had plenty of time to get back to the hospital and complete the mission, but carelessly rolled the ambulance driving through the slopes of Harwood, resulting in failure so close to victory. After that, I had to shut the game off and put it aside for a while.
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Postby Jeffx on Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:16 am

Good thing I kept my PS2, because I'm still rocking GTA III, Vice, SA, LCS & VCS.

Andrew, after 14 years of ignoring Zero's missions, I finally nailed them (with great effort). On the original versiop of SA (which I have), the clock goes down too fast on "Supply Lines", making it difficult to complete the mission . Eventually Rockstar fixed the glitch for later versions. But to this day, SA is my favorite GTA game. I play it more than IV, V & Episodes from LC.
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Postby [Q] on Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:33 am

I never beat GTA III, but I did beat V but I do feel like I missed out on some stuff considering I played the PS3 version and they added more stuff for PS4 and also I killed Trevor so I think I missed some missions and stuff with him
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Re: Random GTA Talk Thread

Postby Andrew on Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:17 pm

Jeffx wrote:Good thing I kept my PS2, because I'm still rocking GTA III, Vice, SA, LCS & VCS.

Andrew, after 14 years of ignoring Zero's missions, I finally nailed them (with great effort). On the original versiop of SA (which I have), the clock goes down too fast on "Supply Lines", making it difficult to complete the mission . Eventually Rockstar fixed the glitch for later versions. But to this day, SA is my favorite GTA game. I play it more than IV, V & Episodes from LC.


Same. I've never traded in any of my consoles, so I've still got my PS2 and those games. I enjoy dusting them off from time to time, but as I said, I'd gladly double-dip to have LCS and VCS on PS4 for convenience. Hopefully they come out soon.

I like SA, but the territory/turf war mechanic has always annoyed me. Same with the empire building in VCS, and to a lesser extent, the original VC. To me it feels like something that should be optional, but it's too integrated with the main storyline missions.

[Q] wrote:I never beat GTA III, but I did beat V but I do feel like I missed out on some stuff considering I played the PS3 version and they added more stuff for PS4 and also I killed Trevor so I think I missed some missions and stuff with him


I haven't finished IV or V. It took me years to finish III. I've mentioned it before in this topic, but I have a habit of getting stuck in GTA games, putting them aside for a long time, then trying again down the track. It's weird because I do really like the series, but a lot of the games will hit me with a mission that turns out to be a frustrating roadblock to the point where I have to take a break. LCS might be the only game I've played solidly from start to finish in a short amount of time. It just really drew me in for some reason.
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Re: Random GTA Talk Thread

Postby Jeffx on Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:43 am

Andrew wrote:
Jeffx wrote:Good thing I kept my PS2, because I'm still rocking GTA III, Vice, SA, LCS & VCS.

Andrew, after 14 years of ignoring Zero's missions, I finally nailed them (with great effort). On the original versiop of SA (which I have), the clock goes down too fast on "Supply Lines", making it difficult to complete the mission . Eventually Rockstar fixed the glitch for later versions. But to this day, SA is my favorite GTA game. I play it more than IV, V & Episodes from LC.


Same. I've never traded in any of my consoles, so I've still got my PS2 and those games. I enjoy dusting them off from time to time, but as I said, I'd gladly double-dip to have LCS and VCS on PS4 for convenience. Hopefully they come out soon.

I like SA, but the territory/turf war mechanic has always annoyed me. Same with the empire building in VCS, and to a lesser extent, the original VC. To me it feels like something that should be optional, but it's too integrated with the main storyline missions.

[Q] wrote:I never beat GTA III, but I did beat V but I do feel like I missed out on some stuff considering I played the PS3 version and they added more stuff for PS4 and also I killed Trevor so I think I missed some missions and stuff with him


I haven't finished IV or V. It took me years to finish III. I've mentioned it before in this topic, but I have a habit of getting stuck in GTA games, putting them aside for a long time, then trying again down the track. It's weird because I do really like the series, but a lot of the games will hit me with a mission that turns out to be a frustrating roadblock to the point where I have to take a break. LCS might be the only game I've played solidly from start to finish in a short amount of time. It just really drew me in for some reason.



LCS doesn't have those really hard missions that take more than 5x to complete, like "N.O.E.", "Supply Lines", "The Driver" or "Sexy Time".
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Re: Random GTA Talk Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:35 am

Good point. I remember a couple of missions taking me a few attempts, but nothing I got stuck on as in other games in the series.
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