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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:35 pm

Andrew wrote:Talk about a kayfabe shattering photo. :lol:


Vince doesn't mind, he was seated close to Brock at the table in another pic.
Shane was alongside the royal family (probably handling the business talk during dinner), seated near him was Braun and Roman, then HHH.
Check out Kurt Angle's insta.



Vince reportedly loved Titus' entrance, hilariously loved it, making me think it's likely a work considering Vince's sense of humor where he gave Hornswoggle a career.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:11 am

Oh, there was never any doubt that it was a non-issue. I mean, there's a clip from Stone Cold's podcast with Vince right there on the WWE's YouTube channel where Vince is talking about how he made the call to end Taker's streak. As long as it's not part of the regular broadcast, they're not afraid of breaking kayfabe. It's just funny to see is all, especially given the on-screen history between Taker and Lesnar.

Titus O'Neil's entrance was pretty funny, arguably less so if it was planned, and certainly not helped by the obnoxious laughter on commentary (though that further suggests it was indeed a work):

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As for the Rumble itself, a good move giving Braun the win, but Daniel Bryan also came out looking pretty strong, so they were at least booked well if nothing else.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:56 am

Now that it has been brought up, I think Titus's entrance could totally have been planned
There were plenty of throwaway moments built in just to amuse Vince
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am

Vince is still sore about the grabbing incident.

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:32 pm

There's a clip of him doing the same entrance tripping himself when he was still in NXT.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:06 pm

Sounding more and more like a work.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:16 pm

the commentators not only acknowledged it instead of completely ignoring it like they usually do when something goes wrong but they continued to laugh and make a big deal out of it longer than they should have
also, they're normally almost exclusively watching the broadcast on the screens in front of them instead of watching the action in ring so they can commentate on what the tv audience is seeing, but the camera cut away way early so they had to know what was up beforehand or were at least told by vince over their headsets to make fun of Titus
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:21 pm

Sadly, they went over the top in the mockery, but par for the course with the current style of commentary.

This is still the worst example of obnoxious commentary, though:

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby bigh0rt on Thu May 03, 2018 12:26 am

I'm much more excited for the SDL than RAW rosters at this point, minus the current US Title picture.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Thu May 03, 2018 1:30 am

I would agree. Shin AJ Joe Bryan rusev day are all guys I like to watch and I'd actually take the time to watch their segments. The thought of Roman Braun Elias and Seth rollins makes me not want to watch at all. I wind up skipping most of raw now although I did watch when I heard they booed the hell out of Roman this week
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Thu May 03, 2018 11:22 am

I like Rollins and Elias has grown on me, but as long as it remains the Roman Reigns show, and the brand with a part time champion, I definitely find it far less appealing as well.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby bigh0rt on Mon May 07, 2018 10:27 am

Random PPV. Opening match. Rollins vs. Miz is absolutely awesome right now.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Mon May 07, 2018 10:55 am

Spoiler about the show tonight

Roman & Joe are going on last....the WWE championship is 3rd to last

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon May 07, 2018 4:19 pm

So there's no way AJ or Nakamura or any of the top Smackdown guys are main eventing as long as Roman is there. AND IT'S NOT EVEN FOR A TITLE.

Since when did a No DQ match had a count-out? Since tonight? :lol: I felt like the AJ-Shin match was going to be miles better than the Wrestlemania match but it just ended flat with that finish.

Rollins/Miz was the best match of the night. And that was it.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon May 07, 2018 6:22 pm

Weird finishes that contradict the match rules and stipulations were a hallmark of the final days of WCW. As much as Vince likes to spit on WCW's grave, there are a lot of parallels that you can draw with things WWE has done in recent years.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby bigh0rt on Mon May 07, 2018 9:59 pm

Well, that card fell off a hard cliff after the IC Title match. Yikes. Worst PPV in some time.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Tue May 08, 2018 1:21 am

I was waiting for the AJ Shin match and couldn't stay awake. Was nodding off during the match and wound up falling asleep after that lame ending. This better lead to some crazy last man standing match or something
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Wed May 09, 2018 3:21 am

Rumor has it that Cena Bella break up is a work. I wouldn't be surprised.

No Way Jose will be the next Adam Rose when the novelty of his act wears off.

It's lame that they changed the Curb Stomp to The Stomp and let they allow Roman to do a Drive By. Honestly most people who haven't seen American History X would have no idea what a curb stomp is anyways.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Wed May 09, 2018 10:58 am

If it's a work, it's rather pointless, since it's not really playing out on TV or anything. Then again, I suppose WWE has done sillier and more bewildering things over the years.

Should've stuck to calling it the Black Out. Sure, it's not a play on his ring name now that he's no longer Tyler Black, but it still makes sense.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Wed May 09, 2018 5:09 pm

There was a string of weeks before WrestleMania that Graves was calling Rolling's finisher Blackout, as far as I can remember.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Wed May 09, 2018 8:19 pm

I remember that. Guess Vince decided he didn't like that, and they went with a slightly less controversial version of the move's original WWE name. I think that controversy is overblown and probably not a lot of people were complaining, but they probably decided it was for the best in light of being a publicly traded company that aims for lucrative sponsorship deals.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby shadowgrin on Thu May 10, 2018 7:19 am

Agree with Andrew, you'll never know when a move with the word "black" in it and taken from a scene where a black person is stomped to death would cause an issue. Better to play it safe and call it The Stomp than Black Out.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Thu May 10, 2018 11:57 am

They probably could've called it Lights Out without any issues, but what's done is done. Or perhaps not, since they're obviously open to renaming finishers as the need arises.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Thu May 10, 2018 7:15 pm

A throwback.

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Thu May 24, 2018 4:10 am

So when Ronda eventually tops Stephanie and Nia and gets the belt, can we look forward to her being the next Brock Lesnar?
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Thu May 24, 2018 5:26 am

I skipped Raw this week. Ronda is already catapulted to the title picture despite not having a match on TV.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Thu May 24, 2018 11:06 am

Ronda Rousey has a full-time contract, so I don't think she's going to be like Lesnar. A bit early to be turning Nia heel again though, and I'm beyond tired of Stephanie's character.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Thu May 24, 2018 5:07 pm

Nia turning again? Why can't we have a face-vs-face match for the women too?
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Thu May 24, 2018 6:27 pm

Well, it's kind of a heel turn.

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby bigh0rt on Fri May 25, 2018 2:44 am

I wish there were any real, worth paying attention to, story lines going on on either show right now. It's just match after match after match. Entertain me. Make me care about the match and/or the reason behind it.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Fri May 25, 2018 3:47 am

Agreed. They have some talent on the roster right now that can really work, but they need some compelling angles.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Fri May 25, 2018 6:02 am

I think they've drawn out the Shin AJ story a bit too long to the point where they're running out of ideas. I've even lost a bit of interest in that feud.

I think they are trying to get Nia to turn on Rousey (eventually if not at the next ppv) and join Stephanie to explain how Ronda can lose clean and then build a story like Stone Cold vs Vince
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Fri May 25, 2018 12:23 pm

Shin/AJ hasn't been good as expected, in the ring or in terms of the story. It probably didn't help that the early stages of the story weren't really more than "this is a dream match!", conveniently set up by Shin's Royal Rumble victory. Just not enough heat, really.

They've got the potential for a great story with Daniel Bryan trying to get back to the top and eventually win it all. Having a great match obviously isn't a problem for him.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon May 28, 2018 11:29 pm

Hey, at least we get a Takeover and the UK Tournament coming up.

I hope Shin just end up speaking Japanese in his promos, he's still being cheered despite being a heel. And a title win would probably extend the feud even longer, or still end up with a no-contest or a double count-out.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Tue May 29, 2018 3:27 am

The Miz is the best. :lol:
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Wed May 30, 2018 2:17 am

Oh so Nia did turn.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:13 am

DId Asuka just barely beat Nia before WM with an armbar?


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Postby Lean on Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:06 pm

...and Becky did too with a DisarmHer, I believe.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby SouthBeachHoops on Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:47 pm

Brock Lesnar fan Here.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:27 pm

I watched yesterday's UFC PPV for Punk, and boy was he toyed by his opponent. I thought it was great he made it past the first round, but by the middle of the second round, it was obvious that Mike Jackson toyed and exposed him. Punk was heaving and his face was heavily-damaged (felt bad for him, actually). It was reported he went straight to the hospital after the decision (unanimous to Jackson) and Rogan told him that he'd talk to him after Jackson but it didn't push through.

Dana White reportedly said that Punk's UFC career is done, but there's still a minimum of 1 match left in his contract. He's also scheduled to appear to the Pro Wrestling Tees meet-and-greet event the day before Cody and The Young Bucks' All In event.

I'm just happy to see him come out to Cult of Personality again and hear people chanting his name directly at him.

Meanwhile, Jericho is now the IWGP Intercontinental Champion after beating Naito, and Kenny Omega is now the IWGP Heavyweight Champion after defeating Okada in their fourth(?) match for the title.

At E3, The New Day will go against Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks... in Street Fighter V.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:20 pm

Predictions for Money in the Bank?

The Bludgeon Brothers (Harper and Rowan) (c) vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson: I doubt the titles switch on the pre-show. The Bludgeon Brothers' push will continue for a while yet.
Ember Moon vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Alexa Bliss vs. Becky Lynch vs. Natalya vs. Lana vs. Naomi vs. Sasha Banks: I'm tempted to pick Moon and she has a chance, but I can see them having Charlotte add another feather to her cap with a MITB win.
Braun Strowman vs. Finn Bálor vs. The Miz vs. Rusev vs. Bobby Roode vs. Kevin Owens vs. Samoa Joe vs. TBA (Big E, Kofi Kingston, or Xavier Woods): It'll be a way to get Braun back into the title picture.
AJ Styles (c) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: Safe to say the feud hasn't lived up to the hype. If AJ is dropping the title, I think it'll be at Summerslam.
Nia Jax (c) vs. Ronda Rousey: I feel like they will strap Rousey as part of a mega push. If she loses though, it'll be dirty, so that she can extend the feud and win at Summerslam.
Carmella (c) vs. Asuka: But by DQ, so that the title won't change hands.
Roman Reigns vs. Jinder Mahal: Mad as it may seem, I'll pick against Reigns. I think it'll be a dirty finish to protect him, while also trying to create a vague sense that he can be beaten.
Bobby Lashley vs. Sami Zayn: Lashley gets to shut Zayn up, and look strong in his first singles match on PPV since returning to the company.
Seth Rollins (c) vs. Elias: I'm not that confident in this one, but it'll be another heel win, and the start of a bigger push for Elias. Rollins can move back into the main event scene, perhaps after Lesnar finally drops the belt at Summerslam (please, WWE).
Daniel Bryan vs. Big Cass: It really mustn't go any other way. Which probably means there's a good chance that it will.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:03 am

Eh, I think Ronda and Nia are main eventing MITB.

Predictions:
Bludgeon Brothers
Daniel Bryan
Roman Reigns
Nia Jax via disqualification or interference
Carmella via interference
Seth Rollins
Torn between Alexa Bliss and Becky Lynch
Finn Bálor
Shinsuke Nakamura

Booker T just directly referred to CM Punk's defeat at UFC 225.

As far as title changes on the pre-show, I think the Raw tag team titles changed hands on the pre-show in 2016. I think it was Clash of Champions, and Gallows and Anderson won it from Sheamus and Cesaro.

Yesterday's Takeover was a good show. I thought Ricochet vs Velveteen Dream is my match of the night. Johnny Gargano main-eventing three straight Takeovers and I'm not even mad.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:11 am

I'd like for Becky to win but everyone knows Charlotte wins everything. Maybe Becky can win it and eventually Charlotte will put her over.

I don't think Nakamura will win this. It doesn't feel right.

Ronda wont win the title due to DQ or interference.

They need to dump the bludgeons

Nothing really interesting going on story wise so hopefully this will mix things up
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:40 am

Alexa won the women's MITB match. Smackdown would probably win the men's MITB match.

What happened to Baron Corbin?
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 am

Cole said that Brock held "the title" longer than anyone in the past 30 years.

I'm pretty sure the Universal Title was inaugurated in 2016. They are referring to the Universal Championship as if it's the title that has the actual lineage and history.

Crowd is absolutely not amused by the Jinder vs Reigns match. :lol:
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:20 am

Brock's also defended the title and appeared less than any other long-reigning champion of the past 30 years, or ever. A meaningless reign with a meaningless "world title".

Definitely surprised at Bliss winning. Guess I did pick a few too many faces to win, but still. I really did expect Charlotte to go over, because Charlotte Wins LOL.

Baron Corbin shaved his head as part of his latest push/gimmick change.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:44 pm

Called it, dirty finish to the Rousey/Jax match as Ronda was about to win. I should've seen the cash-in coming though, especially once Alexa Bliss won it. Probably going to be Rousey/Bliss at Summerslam, and I'm OK with that. I'm also OK with Rousey being the champion, especially if she competes in a few more singles matches between now and then. While her promos are still a bit awkward, she can definitely work, and she sells way better than a lot of the women's division.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:20 pm

Called Braun as well. 6/10 correct in terms of the advertised matches (Bliss' cash-in made for 11 total), though I also picked Carmella to walk out as champion, just not the right result that allowed her to do so. Wonder how long James Ellsworth will be back for.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:49 pm

:lol: at the direction of Nia's run so far. She was turned face during her feud with Bliss, the turned heel just after the rematch with Bliss so she could feud with Rousey and then the cash-in.

How about that? Alexa Bliss is now a five-time champion like Charlotte. As much as I like Alexa Bliss :cheeky:, I think it would freshen things up without her in the title picture. I still think that Becky deserved that MITB win.

Didn't expect Braun to win the briefcase because of how he's booked as an unstoppable powerhouse. But if that's the way to take the title off Brock, I'm fine with it.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:05 pm

I guess she's now a heel against everyone but Alexa Bliss? Who knows. Seems she's in line for a Big Show-esque string of face and heel turns.
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