The Dark Knight (DVD/BR Release!)

[Jackal]

Edward Nygma FTW.

[Joe']

They kind of already ruined Zsasz's character in Begins. They labeled him as "one of Falcone's thugs," implying he works for other people and consequently destroying his nihilist-serial-killer awesomeness. I doubt they'll include him in the third movie (although it's not impossible), but if they do, it'll be that Zsasz, not the one from the comics.

Kindly explain why Gentleman Ghost is "kickass" first.

Black Mask isn't bad idea.

Well, it's pure personal preference, I guess. I've always kind of liked him. He's the freaking ghost of an 1800's English road agent. He doesn't die, he can do things living people can't do. I think it's ridiculous they prefer to use villains like Bane in the comics instead of him.

I guess I'm gonna have to wait for a Hawkman movie (read: never gonna happen) to see him in action on the big screen.

[benji]

I think it's ridiculous they prefer to use villains like Bane in the comics instead of him.

You mean the guy who broke the Batman not only physically but mentally, nearly ended Wayne's career as it, then hooked up with Ra's to unleash The Clench, and now runs his own island nation after winning a civil war there?

They kind of already ruined Zsasz's character in Begins. They labeled him as "one of Falcone's thugs," implying he works for other people and consequently destroying his nihilist-serial-killer awesomeness. I doubt they'll include him in the third movie (although it's not impossible), but if they do, it'll be that Zsasz, not the one from the comics.

I never suggested him for Nolan's series.

[Joe']

You mean the guy who broke the Batman not only physically but mentally, nearly ended Wayne's career as it, then hooked up with Ra's to unleash The Clench, and now runs his own island nation after winning a civil war there?

I never said Gentleman Ghost achieved more than Bane, only that to me it seems ridiculous that a character so (imo) uninteresting like Bane manages to achieve what he achieved since his first appearance in '92, and a character so (again imo) interesting and different like Gentleman Ghost is forgotten.

I never suggested him for Nolan's series.

It wasn't a direct response to your post, more like a general annotation/rant.

[benji]

What's uninteresting about Bane?

[shadowgrin]

You mean the guy who broke the Batman not only physically but mentally, nearly ended Wayne's career as it

I never said Gentleman Ghost achieved more than Bane, only that to me it seems ridiculous that a character so (imo) uninteresting like Bane manages to achieve what he achieved since his first appearance in '92, and a character so (again imo) interesting and different like Gentleman Ghost is forgotten.

If you think about it, Bane never achieved more than Gentleman Ghost considering the roster of heroes the Ghost has faced.

What made Bane interesting isn't his brute force entirely, it's that he singlehandedly broke Batman's will, as benji mentioned.
He broke down the Batman, the man that spent his entire life achieving his physical and mental peak, who's determination (or craziness maybe) is unmatched by only (or none at all) a few heroes, and the Batman isn't even superpowered. Batman considers his determination and will as his "powers". Bane made all what Batman worked and trained for all his life disappear for that one moment, and the Batman paid dearly for it.

He's the freaking ghost of an 1800's English road agent. He doesn't die, he can do things living people can't do.

If that's the case then
Mr. Mxyzptlk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gentleman Ghost

[Fresh8]

Too many twists? Did you forget to take your medication Sit? Predictability is not a twist. Sudden scene changes are not twists. There's only one part of the plot which I consider as a twist, it's not that many.
Maybe you consider it a "tad long" because you were bored with some scenes?

There were points in the movie where I would interpret as them trying to build up some tension and something occurs that they would try to make unpredictable. At stages of the movie I was thinking, 'what could possibly go wrong here.' I just felt the movie was drawn out a bit much but that didn't mean I didn't enjoy it. It was a great film and as I said, maybe the best I've seen all year.

At no stage was I bored with the movie. But i think this movie needs the individual to be really switched on to understand and stay focused on the movie/plot. I was on the edge of my seat throughout the whole film!

[Jackal]

But i think this movie needs the individual to be really switched on to understand and stay focused on the movie/plot.

Why would you go in to a Chris Nolan film not being "switchen on" to "understand and stay focused on the movie/plot"? It's Chris Nolan, not Zohan.

Anyone else like the Zimmer/Howard OST of TDK? I'll be watching it on IMAX again soon and after that in the regular theater.

[Fresh8]

Why would you go in to a Chris Nolan film not being "switchen on" to "understand and stay focused on the movie/plot"? It's Chris Nolan, not Zohan.

That's true but I think this was a lot more deeper/complicated film, which exceeded my expectations. It's maybe cause I hadn't seen Batman Begins. I was impressed nonetheless.

[Joe']

What's uninteresting about Bane?

I just found him to be uninteresting for some reason, just like I found The Sandman and Electro to be uninteresting as villains of The Spiderman.

I don't think there's a logical reason, it's more of a personal opinion. To me, regardless of being the "only one to have broken the Bat," a character that takes steroids and suddenly has super-human strength (and isn't as effective without them) isn't interesting. Honestly, the only thing I found interesting about him are his strategic abilities.

It isn't exclusive to Bane, though; I find a good amount of characters who were introduced in the Modern Age to be uninteresting. As I said, however, it's nothing but a personal opinion. You either like a character or you don't. I guess "uninteresting" wasn't the most appropriate adjective to use.

If that's the case then
Mr. Mxyzptlk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gentleman Ghost

Mxy? The guy who can only be defeated by tricking him into saying his own name backwards? Are you freaking kidding me?

[Jackal]

That's true but I think this was a lot more deeper/complicated film, which exceeded my expectations. It's maybe cause I hadn't seen Batman Begins. I was impressed nonetheless.

Ah, that explains quite a bit. A question, have you seen Memento, Insomnia and The Prestige? Did you know going in to TDK that it was the guy that directed those movies was directing TDK?

[benji]

a character that takes steroids and suddenly has super-human strength (and isn't as effective without them) isn't interesting. Honestly, the only thing I found interesting about him are his strategic abilities.

Well, he's basically a twisted parallel of Wayne. Orphan, but grew up in a prison instead of as a billionaire kid. He's forced in prison to be a test subject for Venom and needs to take it or die basically now. Self-taught and trained like Wayne, which is why he was interested in breaking him.

His strength and muscles and appearance come from the time he was created and were attempts to make him fearsome, but aren't really what makes him a threat. Just like Batman's real threat isn't his skilled fighting ability or toys.

[ixcuincle]

But i think this movie needs the individual to be really switched on to understand and stay focused on the movie/plot.

Why would you go in to a Chris Nolan film not being "switchen on" to "understand and stay focused on the movie/plot"? It's Chris Nolan, not Zohan.

Anyone else like the Zimmer/Howard OST of TDK? I'll be watching it on IMAX again soon and after that in the regular theater.

It's a great soundtrack. "Introduce a Little Anarchy" and "Agent of Chaos" are both great songs.

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainm ... items.html

THREE RIVERS, Michigan - Three Rivers police have arrested a man who they say tried to steal posters and other items related to the new Batman movie from a cinema lobby while dressed up as the Joker.

Detective Mike Mohney said Monday he expects 20-year-old Spencer Taylor to be charged with larceny and malicious destruction of property.

Taylor is scheduled to be arraigned Aug. 5 in St. Joseph County District Court.

There is no telephone listing under his name in the Three Rivers area.

Mohney says police officers who were dispatched early Sunday to the Three Rivers 6 theater arrived to find employees restraining a man wearing a purple suit, a green wig and face paint in the style of Batman's nemesis in "The Dark Knight."

[Jackal]

That actually gave me an idea, I'll be asking my theater what they do with their posters etc.

There's this huge one with the Joker...I'd love to hang it outside my balcony.

[shadowgrin]

Mxy? The guy who can only be defeated by tricking him into saying his own name backwards? Are you freaking kidding me?

My point exactly. What if you don't know his name, then your toast. If only he was homicidal.
It's definitely better than being the...

ghost of an 1800's English road agent. He doesn't die, he can do things living people can't do.

Mxy can do things no living and dead people can do, and he doesn't need to be dead to be kickass. I think even the Spectre can kick Gentleman Ghost's ass.

[benji]

But Ghost can totally turn invisible and be really fucking annoying. And can't be captured because he's a ghost!

This is one reason I hate a lot of comics.

benji, would you be kind enough to post your favorite movies?

^I remember him stating American Psycho was one of his favorites.

Truf. Copied from elsewhere:

American Psycho, The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters, Hot Fuzz, Thank You For Smoking, The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra, Kung Fu Hustle, Decoys, Airplane!, The Naked Gun Trilogy, A Shot In The Dark, Ravenous, Robin Hood: Men In Tights, Rolling Kansas, Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, Idiocracy, Lucky Number Sleven, Leon, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan, Most anything with a RiffTrax, Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life

Blah blah blah...Big Nothing, Glengarry Glen Ross, The Mexican, Mean Girls, Ocean's Eleven, Top Secret!, The Ring (its a mystery not a horror film as it's not even scary!), Runaway Jury, Star Wars IV-VI and certain parts of I, Shaun of the Dead, Memento, Equilibrium, Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle, Requiem for a Dream, Hoodwinked, The Proposition, The Last King of Scotland, The Queen, Star Trek: First Contact, Star Trek: Nemesis...and then I got bored looking through one of my dvd books...and I didn't bother with merely "good" or three-star movies.

Oh, the birth scene and most "actual movie" parts of Tristram Shandy: A Cock and Bull Story...too bad the rest of the film ruined it completely. That part alone is easily five stars.

If not clear, I do like some things merely for their mockability and "sheer awesomeness" such as Decoys and Cyber Seduction. (The Last King of Scotland. IDI AMIN AMIRITE!) Also why I wuv the RiffTrax and MST3K. (Last one's a TV show so I didn't bother listing its movies.)

(I just realized 90% of the films listed in the quote are comedies...aside from King of Kong, Leon and the Star Trek films...)

[shadowgrin]

But Ghost can totally turn invisible and be really fucking annoying. And can't be captured because he's a ghost!

Try telling that to the Ghostbusters. Go Slimer!

Joe has bad taste in villains to root for.

I know, it's his opinion/preference. Still, bad taste.

[Jackal]

So I just caught it in a regular theater and I must say, watching it in IMAX really does a lot more justice. I found that in this theater some scenes were too dark.

Anyways, will be catching it on IMAX again before it goes out of theatres.

[hawks24]

just saw it. now it is officially my second favorte movie behind iron man

[cyanide]

Anyways, will be catching it on IMAX again before it goes out of theatres.

The cool thing about the IMAX version is that the screen goes from wide-screen (with the black horizontal bars) to full screen when the camera zooms out to the cityscape.

[benji]

I would pay to see this: Michael Bay's The Dark Knight script

[cyanide]

http://www.nbaliveforums.com/viewtopic. ... &start=450

Still good for laughs, though. My favorite parts:

"But which one of the internets do we hack?"
"All of them"

"She is the hottest woman in the world, but she wears glasses because she is also the smartest woman in the world."

[Jackal]

Repost!

Edit: Ah poop, beat by a minute.

[benji]

Yeah, sorry...I avoid that type of thread...

[cyanide]

Early Joker Concept for the Dark Knight.