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Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:42 am

Jona wrote:
Jae wrote:I won't lie, I don't really like Muslims. Not necessarily because of terrorist things, just don't like them.


How can you NOT like a person just because of his faith??
I thought you were smarter than that. :?


Me too.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:53 am

Wisdomkid...

You are not at all good at debating. I agree with some of the points you were trying to get across but...

Come on man, please don't come in this thread anymore. I don't have time to respond right now, but I will tomorrow.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:13 am

Given a lot of you will accuse me of just attacking the weakest link, I’ll try and respond to all the posts, I’ll start off with Wisdom’s because he’s the stupidest person ever.
Normally I tend not to get into this given everyone just believes what they want to, but I’ve got time to kill & there are no hot chicks from the island to talk to. Well, read on.

wisdom_kid wrote:HOLY SHIT SOME OF YOU PPL ARE TOTALLY FUCKED UP!!


Some of us are fucked up? Right. I've said it before & I'll say it again, take a look in the mirror fuckwit.

God i just saw this topic rite now and shesh some of u ppl like Jackal, Jae and Riot say the stupidest things. But luckily smart ppl like Indy and Dahl made smart things.


Yeah, they made smart things. What things did they make? Not you for sure.

Anyway Jackal view on Islam is completely wrong.


You don't even know what my view is. I haven't even given my view in any way?

That's total bullshit, god says eating pork is wrong not to tell Muslims to fucking bomb buildings or make terrorist attacks. Nothing in the western world is wrong except for a few things. (girls, drinking, fucking, and etc.)


You're a dumber motherfucker than I'd first imagined. Where in heavens name did I say God tells them to bomb buildings because eating pork is forbidden. If you were paying attention to what goes on in the world, you'd notice that the muslim population is using the name of God in their battle against the western civilisation. In other words, they are saying, hey, our God says the shit you do is wrong so we'll blow you up. I didn't say their God told them to do so, I said they said their God told them to do so. They said it. It's not true given I have muslim friends from school who've specifically told me no where in the Koran is it written that you should kill other people. There is written "you should eliminate your enemies", in other words, the extremist muslims use that as an excuse to kill us. Holy shit, you're soooooo stoopid. Do you just need a reason to write something? Go get a blog for Christ's sake.

Cant say anything to dat


Then why did you quote it? To make your post look longer or just for the sake of not liking Jae?

Don't believe everything u see on TV dumb ass. You think u see it all on TV but its not even half the reality. There are always haters and lovers. CNN wont show you the people that like Saddam they would only show the ppl that hate Saddam.


But CNN has been showing us people who are dying in Iraq? Seriously, do you just argue for the sake of argument or do you actually think about stuff before you write it?

I don't know what idiot would fucking take the blame for their this, i completely think Al-Qaeda was innocent.


What, is your grandfather the co-founder of the terrorist group & does he give you information, does he tell you they donate to charities like old age homes? How the hell can you say you think they are innocent when tapes of Osama Bin Laden describing the 9/11 thing was aired on TV? Oh wait, don't believe everything you see on tv, right asshole? In case you were oblivious of this tidbit, Osama's like this rich ass motherfucker that gave tons of money to fund the ideology of Al Qaeda. To bring down the West. Now, did you know that? I guess not given you think they are innocent in all of this. A stupider person is yet to exsist. Coolmac is smarter than you.

Even 9/11 is a mystery for me.


Everything is a mystery for you. You don't know anything but you keep on talking the talk.

Al-Qaeda is a like a group that anyone can blame on, its like you took a shit in someones pool and just say Al-Qaeda did it and they will believe u. Its fucking stupid how its always Al-Qaeda taking the blame saying its us and they make video tapes and everything.


What? You say we shouldn't blame Al Qaeda but at the same time you find it strange why they themselves take the blame? Oh. My. God. In all seriousness, did you stop to ponder that they actually like taking the credit? There are actually people on this earth that look up to them because of their "war" against the West.

Democracy is not needed in some countries in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia is not democratic and its not bad. Ppl like the kings and everything is fine. Yea countries like Iraq needed democracy but most of the ppl living in Iraq liked Saddam.


Now your Grandpa must work for CIA orso, how do you know they liked him? Were you everyones pen pal in Iraq? Why isn't democracy needed? Democracy doesn't mean that you can't have a King or Queen because you have democracy, the Netherlands has its Queen (and royal family) and at the same time we have a democracy. You talk like a child.

Iraq is now liberated now rite?? No its not America is planning everything there they choose the ppl they wanna have as Iraq's Leader, fucked up White washed ppl. Same thing in Afghanistan they took some white-washed-American lover as their leader.


Iraq fucked up once by choosing Saddam as their leader, now that worked out like a bunch of roses, didn't it? They're trying to bring stability to that country you prick. As I said, had they up & left after Saddam's capture, pricks like you would've squeled like the bitches that you are saying, ooh, ooh, they left them in total case, America suxor.

I can even tell all the conspiracies about not 9/11 that would really explain to you that America was in all of it. I really hate America and most of the patriotic fools who love that piece of shit country.


You can't tell your ass from your mouth & you want to tell us about concpiracies? Puhleaze. Yeah, America was in all of it, you know it dude. You can hate America as much as you want & you can say you hate the patriotic fools as much as you want. Without America, the world wouldn't be as far as they are. Hate it or love it, fact remains America is the leader of the world today. Some years from now, if that place turns into China, fuckwits like you will say, oh I hate that country and their patriotic lovers. Here's some advice, go fuck yourself. There isn't a thing wrong about being patriotic you bitch. You tell me it's wrong to hate them based on the fact their muslims, but it's all candy & dandy for you to hate America for actually doing something & their patriotic citizens.

Mind you, I don't speak as an American, I speak as an Antillian.

But these people that does this isn't your average arabs/muslim, their extremist. Fanatical islamic extremist that sees the coran their way (a way that is rejected by 99% of all muslims). Also, when you say "but didn't their kin bring it on upon themselves?", that's excacly like if every african were to think of every white person as a KKK member or a slave-dealer.


Again, you’re not comprehending what I wrote. I’m not saying EVERY muslim is a terrorist, I said cannot not look at a person from the Muslim religion & not think about 9/11. Given you used the black/white example, I’ll proceed. After slavery was banned & racism for white against black was banned, there were still black people that could not help think of the KKK after seeing a white person, right or right? The wounds are too fresh for me to be able to look at a muslim person normally, that’s all I’m saying. I’m not saying every bearded dude is a Osama in disguise, that’s not what I said. It irritates me that you don’t understand all I’m saying is that I just can’t help not think about 9/11. As every black man in that time could not help thinking of the KKK after he saw a white man.

Again, you can't compare the Iraq war with the London bombings. The bombings was done by a small terrorist organisation that consists of fanatical islamic extremist that belive what they are doing is from god's will. Oh yea, in their oppinion, it is a war...


I’m not the one who started off the comparison of Iraq situation with London, that was Indy.

It's people was a hell a lot more free than you think; as long as it didn't interfear with Saddams thoughts. As long as you didn't speak out negatively about Saddam, life was just as it was any other place; that's what many people don't think, but I suggest you actually ask people that lived there before the war, rather than taking the word of CNN.


Read that for yourself and ask yourself if that isn’t a wee bit fucked up. I’m not allowed to say the conditions in which I live in stink, because that’ll offend Saddam & I’ll be tortured. I won’t be killed right away, they will burn my dick, they will rape my wife and go through a lot of other torture rituals before they get bored of me & decide to kill me. Hmm, now would I want to live in that? No. You can never, ever ever ever ever try to convince me that that Iraqi’s had it better when Saddam was the ruler of that country. That’s just wrong. He used oil money to fund his personal shit, he cared less for his people, they could die as long as he could spend Iraq’s money for his personal growth. I mean even the Wiki says he stuck all the money into his personal interests. In his case the army given he grew up in an army based surrounding. His father he never knew, his mom was a cuckoo from what I read, he stayed with his uncle, who was some sort of army officer & then he went to the army school. So when he had Iraq’s money, he spent it all in that, not in the people’s well being.

Riot, just because the United States came in doesn't mean that everything is going to be fine and dandy.


No, it doesn’t. But atleast they came in, right? I’m sure there are more than a handful of people that are thankful USA came in.

There is no doubt that Saddam was a terrible dictator. He was totally and completely awful. But, if America is so concerned about Iraqi people then why not African people?


How do you know they aren’t? I’m pretty sure it was an issue at the G8 summit thing. Poverty, besides, they began with Iraq given Hussein already had history with Bush Sr. & secondly, at the time they thought Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. In a fight against terrorism, I’d go for Saddam before I went for dictators in Africa that weren’t rumoured to have WMD’s.

Its unfortunate, because I would love to see a democracy develop in the Middle East, but It isn't going to happen.


You come off as convincing, but at the end of the day none of us can be sure. Let’s wait & watch before making those kind of remarks.

Now a hot chick came online, I won’t be responding to this thread anymore, RIP to the people that passed away in the London bombings, condolences to their families & to each their own in this thread.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:43 am

One word. Illuminati. But don't even bother going there. "the Truth IS out there", you'll just never get to know it.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:45 am

Lol, too much Robert Langdon novels for you. This isn't Angels & Demons mister.

Good book overall.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:51 am

Lol, too much Robert Langdon novels for you. This isn't Angels & Demons mister.

Good book overall.


ha, I don't even know who that is or ever read his book. But the Illuminati do exist, they just probably don't go under that exact name. Trust me on this one, I've done my research. Now I won't go saying anything more in case I accidentaly find myself with a bullet in my spine. : Cue X-Files intro music :

Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:04 am

Jackal wrote:Lol, too much Robert Langdon novels for you. This isn't Angels & Demons mister.

Good book overall.


Disgusting light reading. :x

And to Weaver:
Robert Langdon is the protagonist of Dan Brown novels "Angels and Demons" and "The Da Vinci Code". It's good you don't know who that is, since the books are hideous.

Don't ever bother to read them. And about the Illuminati, I have no opinion since I cannot prove or disprove anything about them. :P

Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:08 am

And about the Illuminati, I have no opinion since I cannot prove or disprove anything about them.


The "Illuminati" is a fictional name... the organization/cult exists. I have seen dumbfounding evidence in my line of work and associations, that cannot be disproved.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:08 am

They're pretty good, which reminds me, I'm getting the new Harry Potter book on Friday. (Not this one, the next.) :oops:

I'm giddy.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:23 am

Jackal wrote:They're pretty good, which reminds me, I'm getting the new Harry Potter book on Friday. (Not this one, the next.) :oops:

I'm giddy.



and what, it will revel that the order of the pheonix is really the illuminii and they are the ones that bombed the trains?!?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:53 am

Idiot Terrorists, its time to strike back. It very make me mad. :evil: Latest update, kill 37 and injure 700. Stupid Al-Qaida. That bomb attacks was all setup right after the announcement of the hosting of 2012 olympics. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:56 am

okafor50 wrote:Idiot Terrorists, its time to strike back. It very make me mad. :evil: Latest update, kill 37 and injure 700. Stupid Al-Qaida. That bomb attacks was all setup right after the announcement of the hosting of 2012 olympics. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:



READ!!!!!!

Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:02 am

Jackal wrote:Agreed, what happens in Iraq is in no way right. But c'mon, the way of fighting is different, isn't it? That's a war. This is a cowards way out. There is a difference.


That reminds me of something interesting. Since the G8 guys are the richest, and perhaps the most powerful nations in the world, I can't think of any way for poorer nations to go into war with them. Terrorism is the only way I can think of them actually making an impact.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:19 pm

Jackal ur more fucked then me, just because i dont make paragrapahs and care about my spelling you think i talk like a child. As a matter of fact some people think the age of 15 is considerd as child (those ppl dont knw waht teen means) Anyway I dont knw ur view of islam but by the looks of it you dont seem to knw anything abut it but make stupid posts.

As for the hating part i jus said it for no reason just to show my anger. Also i dont make my posts longer, i ctrl v'ed the all of the previous posts and just pasted and replied to them. As a matter of fact my uncle's friend has worked for some intelligence group of Canada(dont knw name) so he told lots of stories which i belive that are true. And of course CNN would show some dead ppl they cant make the story all one sided. And most of the shit they show like civilans shooting and stuff is fake, cause a journalist which came back from Afg said that the Journalists pay money to them to show them firing in open air to look as if thier was a shoot out.

The conspiracy thingy is also a thingy. On the day of 9.11 Geroge Bush's father was having a meeting with Bin Ladens brother, all of the jews on the day of 9.11 were out on a holliday, the builidng collapsed inwards so it had a bomb placed in it. There are more stuff but i forgot cause i watched a documentry in 2002 or 2001. But anyway i cant debate for shit as u all knw but if i made my posts like Jackal and put some fuckwit my posts will look good too.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:38 pm

Image

Poor guy :(

Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:41 pm

Is taht his tie wrapped around his head?? sad stuff...

Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:07 pm

yeah it is. from COOLmac's heart and country men we are giving our condoloence to those who died of terrorism and to all those injured may you guys recover fast, and to the poeple reponsible, satan is holding a banquet and you are guest of honor soon :twisted:

Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:24 pm

I heard Al-Queda threatened Australia and Italy telling them to pull out of Iraq or else. I hope they put more troops in there, we need to put our foot down as a world. No grudges and no more stubborness. The whole world needs to unite and put up a fight to end this suffering. If we don't do anything and only a few countries stand up then this stuff will happen all over the place. No place is safe from them.

It makes me sick.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:01 pm

We shall not be afraid of terrorism, otherwise there will be no peace in the world. To do this, send troops and attack terrorists once and for all. Then we shall have peace again. We don't want see any more terrorists attacks like 9/11, Bali bombing, London bombing and whatever bombing is coming up.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:11 pm

I was a sociology major in College and all I did was sit down and debate with others about Politics, Religion in Politics and a bunch of stupid theories. I wrote a paper on the "War on Terrorism" and it was in the school newspaper, many hundreds of people read it throughout campus.

This thread is not to argue with others about what your beliefs are, but please do not post something when you are uneducated about the matter. I see the muslims and islamic's saying one thing and the westerners saying something else. That's the reason why we can't agree on anything.

The attacks were obviously a terrorist plot against a country deemed to support American Ideology, Blair is now a puppet for the American Government. Just as Gorbochev was, and my personal opinion is that the Islamic terrorist groups feel that anyone that is tied to or allied with the Americans is a threat to them. Hence the attacks in London.

Don't you people look at these things a little closer? London just 24 hours ago was given the 2012 Olympics. What better time to blow the fuck outta them? Make some more theories floating around. "I bet it was the French!" "I bet it was because they got the Olympics!" thats all bullshit.. the terrorists are smarter than many think they are.

I was born and raised in Canada but am of Persian heritage, don't get the feeling that I justify what was done in London. But I feel that people need to stop pointing fingers at Muslims or Islam... All types of terrorist organizations are out there, whether they are Russian, Egyptian, Syrian, Saudi Arabian, or fucking Italian. The American eye (CNN) points fingers at the middle east for all this shit.. many people don't realise what goes on behind the curtains. How many of you know that the Bin Laden family met with the Carlucci and the Carlyle Group and the Bush Administration minutes before the first plane hit the World Trade Center? How many know that Osama's background comes from American Army Training? Or that he has been linked to Bush Sr. and the CIA staff when Senior was in office.

I carried this out a bit too much but I guess what I wanna say is simply don't post something if you don't know much about it, and please don't point fingers and accuse "organizations" or "countries".

Phew...more than I wanted to say lol...

Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:05 pm

I heard Al-Queda threatened Australia and Italy telling them to pull out of Iraq or else. I hope they put more troops in there


Yeah that's such a fantastic idea. As a matter of fact, I'm going to fly to Sydney right away so I can be there to see the bombs go off!

Jona wrote:How can you NOT like a person just because of his faith??
I thought you were smarter than that.


Where did I say I didn't like them because of their faith? I said I didn't like them, I didn't say it had anything to do with their faith.

Indy wrote:Me too.


Shut up.

Anyone who thinks "terror" will be stopped any time soon is delierious. Do you guys seriously realize how strong they are? It's not like we're dealing with Dr. Evil and his little empire here, there are THOUSANDS of terrorist networks and I'll guarantee the USA has no clue about a large number of them. Tony Blair goes on TV saying "the terrorists will not succeed"... well they kinda have, multiple times.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:36 pm

Sit you're a fuckwit. Why post pictures of victims? You're a spastic. Imagine if that was you, and some nerdy cunt posted pictures of your mother injured in an internet forum.

Show some respect.


If you were offended by my actions then so be it. I posted the pictures to show how these acts have affected normal everyday people. Don't go and tell me what to do. I am showing them respect and I wish them well. My friend's family is over there. I've been consoling her today, do you think I would be that cold hearted to be making fun of all of this?

I am not distributing, only merely shwoing and demonstarting what these actions by cowards have done. If you were offended, I shall refrain from doing so in the future.

And please do not show disrespect to other people when you try to lecture me about respect.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:41 pm

About Jae's suggestion, even if US does go away now, these same people that are saying, get out, get out of Iraq let them be, will turn around 5 years from now when Iraq is in more chaos than now and say, oh, America just came, invaded after that told them to go fuck themselves.


I think you missed the point... I was suggesting literally building a glass bubble around them, creating a Truman Show atmosphere. I'm not saying they should get out of Iraq or anything, I just don't really care now.

Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:17 pm

Again, advice to Wisdom Kid. Stop discussing, you can't.

Jae: :lol:

Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:47 pm

Sit wrote:
Sit you're a fuckwit. Why post pictures of victims? You're a spastic. Imagine if that was you, and some nerdy cunt posted pictures of your mother injured in an internet forum.

Show some respect.


If you were offended by my actions then so be it. I posted the pictures to show how these acts have affected normal everyday people. Don't go and tell me what to do. I am showing them respect and I wish them well. My friend's family is over there. I've been consoling her today, do you think I would be that cold hearted to be making fun of all of this?

I am not distributing, only merely shwoing and demonstarting what these actions by cowards have done. If you were offended, I shall refrain from doing so in the future.

And please do not show disrespect to other people when you try to lecture me about respect.


You call that a lecture? You're even dumber than I thought (and believe me, all the useless posts in the past that you have come up with made me think you were a spastic).

And its hard to respect you without that "nlsc team member" badge that you worked so hard to recieve. Whatever happened to that btw :lol:

I dont care what your "motives" were for posting the pictures. The fact is they are disturbing and disrespectful. Would you post a picture of a woman getting raped to show people how barbaric the rapist is?
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