Superman/Dark Knight Crossover in 2016

[SoF'nAwesome]

http://news.sky.com/story/1133594/bryan ... -in-sequel

Good choice.

There is no "Batman" in Snyder, that's the problem. "Visual" isn't Batman's thing. Man of Steel was great(great probably an understatement) and all but check out his other films, they are dark. We need Nolan. He has that "Batman" part within his direction.

Seems the movie is already wrong in the biggest ways possible. Though, there are chances that Affleck will step away from the casting given that thousands are ranting. I feel bad for him thuogh, 'cause he is a great actor and one of the best for sure, but just not good enough for Batman. Come to think of it, very few people come in to mind except Bale.

So, I'm gonna ask Santa this year to make Nolan direct it & Bale to reprise his role.

[benji]

Some of you guys are acting like the Nolan directed, Goyer written, Batman films aren't plotting messes with lousy characters, hamfisted dialogue and incoherent direction that go for style over substance.

[Sauru]

Some of you guys are acting like the Nolan directed, Goyer written, Batman films aren't plotting messes with lousy characters, hamfisted dialogue and incoherent direction that go for style over substance.

i liked the nolan trilogy but i also believe they are the most overrated movies out there. people act like they are the best things to ever hit the big screen and thats just not true. that are good and fun to watch but i dont even consider them the best comic book movies



i heard about the cranston thing and then read it was fake. has it been confirmed now?

[benji]

I like the Nolan trilogy as well, mostly the first halves of each of the films since they collapse into themselves as they rush to the conclusion, but we're all kidding ourselves if we think any of the Batman films outside of Returns have even attempted substance. (Not that there aren't nice little components throughout all of the films, even Batman and Robin, many of which should have gotten much more usage to fill time between the boring action scenes.) I think the Arkham games have really illustrated how poorly these films have juggled their characters and maintained pacing despite being handed so much to work with on a silver platter.

No confirmation on Cranston still but the story includes this:

Cranston has reportedly signed a deal that includes at least six appearances (and possibly more), meaning that his character will appear in a variety of films set within the inter-connected DC Comics universe.

"Cranston is truly a dream casting for Luthor," a source told Cosmic Book News.

This news follows last week's controversial announcement that Ben Affleck has signed on to play Batman in the same film. The actor reportedly inked a deal that includes 13 total appearances.

[SoF'nAwesome]

Except Rises, Begins & Dark Knight were as perfect as cinema gets.

What do you guys think the chances are of Affleck stepping back from the role? I mean, it would be very risky to make a movie with him when thousands are signing against it.

[benji]

What do you guys think the chances are of Affleck stepping back from the role? I mean, it would be very risky to make a movie with him when thousands are signing against it.

Keaton's casting caused a controversy among comic book fans,[10] with 50,000 protest letters sent to Warner Bros. offices.[8] Bob Kane, Sam Hamm and Michael Uslan also heavily questioned the casting.[6] Burton acknowledged, "Obviously there was a negative response from the comic book people. I think they thought we were going to make it like the 1960s TV series, and make it campy, because they thought of Michael Keaton from Mr. Mom and Night Shift and stuff like that."

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Batman opened on June 23, 1989, grossing $43.6 million in 2,194 theaters during its opening weekend. This broke the opening weekend record, set by Ghostbusters II one week earlier, with $29.4 million.[50] Batman would eventually gross $251.2 million in North America and $160.15 million internationally, totaling $411.35 million.[51] Batman was the first film to earn $100 million in its first ten days of release,[3] and was the highest grossing film based on a DC comic book until 2008's The Dark Knight.[52] The film's gross is the 66th highest ever in North American ranks.[53] Although Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade made the most money worldwide in 1989,[54] Batman was able to beat The Last Crusade in North America,[55] and made a further $150 million in home video sales.[

Batman was criticized in some quarters for being "too dark".[3] Many observed that Burton was more interested in the Joker and the art and set production design than Batman or anything else in terms of characterization and screentime

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Burton biographer Alison McMahan wrote, "fans of the Batman franchise complained when they heard of Michael Keaton's casting. However, no one complained when they saw his performance."

[shadowgrin]

Rises, Begins & Dark Knight were as perfect as cinema gets.

[SoF'nAwesome]

I like it, weird how I've never seen that one before...that's going to be my avatar till the next season starts.

[Andrew]

From Cracked: 5 Reasons Ben Affleck Will Make a Great Batman

[Rokyn]

I really enjoyed Man of Steel though I wanted to see more character development from the characters and more of the boy-scout Superman. Loved Krypton, Jor-El, General Zod was perfect, and the rest of the cast was really good. You can tell they were saving a lot for the sequel and hopefully they learn from those mistakes. People saying Man of Steel didn't have a story I can't agree with because in my eyes I was watching a science fiction story of first contact and a story about the protagonist finding his own in the world. I do believe though the third act didn't have much of a story but more of a save the world plot ending with 2 characters punching the sh*t out of each other. I have faith in this Superman becoming the boy-scout he always was because that's what Synder loves about the character according to his interviews. Nolan picked Synder for Man of Steel because he knew he couldn't do it but rather Synder could and he knew the character better.

I'm torn apart about the new Batman. One side of me wants to see how the Christian Bale Batman would adapt to these new super-powered characters making their way into the world (a lot like Batman The Animated Series when he was first encountering Superman and others). My other side wants to see the Kevin Conroy/Frank Miller Batman done well in the silver screen (Batman TAS, Justice League animated series, and the Arkham Batman). I can see Affleck as Batman, I just hope he can get Bruce Wayne down. The challenge in playing Batman is playing Bruce Wayne. I also don't think Goyer is a bad writer, he just has great ideas and concepts just average dialog and he writes female characters very bad. Snyder is a great director when given a great script but a bad one when he is involved in the script. The fact they are consulting with Frank Miller and Bruce Timm though is a great sign for this movie. Both of those guys made great stories like The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One, World's Finest, the Justice League series, and the Arkham universe was made by Bruce Timm and Paul Dini.

We'll see how this goes, I'm personally excited and I hope this paves the way for other heroes like Flash, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman. A rebooted Green Lantern would be nice too but we'll see. Very happy for Avengers: Age of Ultron, Man of Steel 2, and X-Men Days of Future Past.

EDIT: The only reason you see Bale as the only actor for Batman is because you're already used to and accepted him as Batman. Anybody else would be different for you and change is hard for people. Hell I want him for Batman too but I've learned to accept that the Nolanverse is gone and now we need a new Batman. He said it himself that he's done and that he wants other people to take on the mantle. Affleck has the looks, body, and experience to play Batman and as Batman, 75% of the look is covered for you and what matters is how you voice him and the chin is important too lol. Some fans want them to show how good of a martial artist and detective he is because they say that the Nolan films clearly missed out on the fact that Batman is the world's greatest detective. I'll argue though that they shown glimpses of it and he certainly was clever in the trilogy. With Snyder, I think we will see a more of that Batman.

Here's a photoshop picture of Affleck as Batman. He has the perfect chin and gruffness to play him. The question is can he play Bruce?

[shadowgrin]

Daredevil.

[SoF'nAwesome]

I don't it's not really because "we are used to seeing him". It's because he rocked that shit.

Ben Affleck isn't manly enough to pull off Batman. He might make an okay Bruce Wayne. I guess we can't do anything but wait. Also, I hear he has a Batcave like room in his house where he is now getting used to play Bats.

[benji]

It's all about the suit and the theatrics that makes the Batman imposing and intimidating. You can stick most anyone in the suit and it comes out "manly" enough. Just look at the ones who succeeded: Conroy, Keaton, Kilmer, Bale, West. And the one who didn't: Clooney.

[SoF'nAwesome]

You think Affleck is gonna pull it off?

[Sauru]

You think Affleck is gonna pull it off?

yes

[el badman]

Me too, but then again pulling it off in a Zack Snyder movie isn't much of an achievement.

[Sauru]

Me too, but then again pulling it off in a Zack Snyder movie isn't much of an achievement.

see i think zack is the biggest obstacle not ben. henry was good as superman so i am not at all worried there

[shadowgrin]

Snyder can't even handle Superman properly, he's going to screw something with Batman.

Superman had no choice he had to snap!
Batman had no choice he had to shoot that guy's head off!

[SoF'nAwesome]

Damn what'd I tell you about spoiler alerts man?

[Jackal]

I honest to God hope the Bieber thing is a very ill conceived joke.

[benji]

Well, Robin is a girl in The Dark Knight Returns stories.

I hope Bieber's actually been cast for the prequel where Batman kidnaps Robin and spends six weeks driving to the Batcave. People will go wild when Affleck gruffs to Bieber "WHAT ARE YOU DENSE? ARE YOU RETARDED OR SOMETHING WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM? I'M THE GODDAMNED BATMAN!"

[Sauru]

if they go the dark knight returns route i have a feeling i really will not like this movie. also it does not leave them in a good spot to go into the justice league.

[Andrew]

Since Ben Affleck's already there, they could always just get Kevin Smith to write the Justice League movie. Hey, he's already got a few ideas:

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[Andrew]

Affleck talks Batman:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8BaVKUoUGo

[jimmystar]

I wish Christopher Nolan would have directed this, but Man of Steel was quite well done.