Official NBA 2K6 Thread

they are not. they go from 50-100... i see them just right.

I think he means that they are horrible , as in VC having a better 3 pt raiting then Ray Allen .

I don't know if this has been posted, but it's a great Q & A with the developer of the game about AI and tendancies...

Wallyhopp: When trades occur in The Association, how well does the AI reacts to its new superstars? Will Phoenix change its fast-breaking tendencies when they trade for a Tim Duncan? Does the CPU re-evaluate its player personnel and change its "playcalling"? Is that where player tendencies come into play? Or does OVERALL PLAYER RATING have precedence over everything, in regards to player touches and shots for the superstars on new teams?

Answer: The player tendencies take precedence over everything else, so if Tim is traded to Phoenix, you won't see him playing the same way Amare does. And yes, the CPU's playcalling changes based on personnel. So if Shaq gets traded to Seattle, Ray and Rashard will still put up 3's but they will also look to run post plays for Shaq in the half court.

http://2ksports.com/games/nba2k6/ex.php ... developer4

Remember it's a 50-100 system, and they also make it a little too position specific, and their's not much of a difference between players. Adonal Foyle is an 82, Olowokandi is an 81, so they're only 7-9 points lower than Yao, Artest, Marion, Arenas etc. The real individual ratings problem though is something similar to NBA Live, they have terrible ratings for non-starter and role players, many many errors.

Some example, MoPete who camps outside would have a 94 Close, but Eric Williams who is actually a post SF has a 60 close, people seem to like to ignore the "lesser" guys. Their are some problems though, like Hoiberg has a 90 3PT rating, but his percentages are high because he get's assisted on 90% of his three's, and takes open three's, not three's with a hand in his face.

new screenshots and clips at:

http://forums.operationsports.com/vBull ... p?t=142873

The Good
- The atmosphere, though this is nothing new, but still it's nice
- The Toyota matchup was a SF vs SF, so maybe it's fixed so it's an actual matchup. Not a big thing, but still cool
- The jumpshot animations except for the one ugly looking stiff fadeaway shot are good
- The fast break in the Pistons vid looked very nice, obviously the ball should've gone to the middle man because basically they dribbled on the wing and passed to the man in the middle who was guarded, but it was nice.
- The banging feel from posting up is very nice, and Blount's moves in the post were good
- Iguodala AND 1
- Pierce's shot selection, he was loving that baseline 16 footer


The Bad
- Players just dribbling casually when a defender is right there
- Lack of collision, ahhh
- The look of the dunks, they're so plain, and hte players hands look unlrealistic, they don't give any excitment like a dunk actually would, Shaq just kinda dunks it down softly
- A little too easy to dunk because of collision [or lack of]
- Ball constantly going through defenders on post feeds
- Weird like gliding where the players legs don't move, but they move, it's like it get's stuck, but who cares about that.
- Shaq was in the key for like 6 seconds in the one post iso superstar non-call
- Shaq taking the 14 footer, but more the fact that he made it lol, he's been working on his J
- Jason Williams throwing a pass off the glass when no one was behind him
- Defensive stiffness, the defense just kinda stands around in a passive zone stance all day, they need to swipe at passes and stuff more
- Korver's shot jacking with Iverson not doing that much
- Too many sloppy passes, I expect some unless it wouldn't be real, but their were too many

Apparentely that's just a BETA of the demo ... in those Q & A's the developers said they've addressed alot of the problems seen in the BETA, and funnily enough a couple of times they mention seeing things said on the forums and then fixing it in the game.

Amazing TV'style presentation...makes me want to grab a sandwhich and watch the game.

Of course that is just a presentation and doesn't count toward eveluating the game itself.

Some things I liked:
- the passing animation are much better than last year
- the net animation is sweeet, look how Korver's jumpshot went in (second video)
- very nice commentary. And the arena announcer sounds cool too


Some things I didn't like
- dunks aren't that excting, except for the two-handed slam by prince and the athletic slam by Iguodala. But i guess it's realstic
- Shaq making a midrange jumpshot.....but fortunatly we can edit player tendency ratings so that he doesn't do that again

Shaq making a midrange jumpshot.....but fortunatly we can edit player tendency ratings so that he doesn't do that again

Well he does take them sometimes, but look at the animation when he shot it... just like "SHAQ" style.

NEW VIDEO AT OS (CAVS VS BULLS)

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Shaq making a midrange jumpshot.....but fortunatly we can edit player tendency ratings so that he doesn't do that again

Well he does take them sometimes, but look at the animation when he shot it... just like "SHAQ" style.

NEW VIDEO AT OS (CAVS VS BULLS)

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The new video is amazing, wow! I really can't understand why some people here in this forum talk that bad about 2k. I really don't see anything sooo wrong with it. But I guess they will never change their minds..I am just sorry for them.

But I will enjoy this game so much this year!! I can't wait.

Did you see the attempted rebound by Big Z??? I love how he wasn't in the best of position, and when he tries to grab the rebound, the ball just bounces off his hand, and not get attached unlike other past versions. And the CPU also applies SCREENS to their players so they can get open! WOW

Lebron is taking more of the ball (as usual) and same with hinrich. Seems to be going in the right direction.

Man...I'm REALLY feelin' this game. I absolutely LOVED the ID series and the core of that group came over to work on 2K6. You can definitely feel the change in the gameplay. Player movement and spacing is unreal, the superstars play like superstars and the role players play like....well...roleplayers. Seems every team runs just like the real life counterpart, it's pretty amazing how it has come across. ID missed a lot of animations, but you see a TON in NBA 2K6, some are just plain sickening.

Oh yes. Don't let the movie clips fool you. AI vs. AI doesn't tell the whole story. People complaining about AI not shooting and Corver taking all the shots...haha...Just like in real life, AI has learned to get the team involved early on, then he'll light it up in the clutch. AI lit me up for 46 when I was the Pistons, he was making some crazy shots, lol.

Miami will pound you w/ Shaq and bury the open shot when you double. The Suns ran me off the court when I was the Rockets, LOL.

HAHA....You're right, haven't touched tendancy sliders, but man....Iverson lit me up for 46, but Paul Pierce absolutely WENT OFF on me. He was just simply ON FIRE, I'd give him the J, he'd bury it, I'd come up, he'd drive by me AND 1. Launching 3's, give and go's. Man, I just could NOT stop him. I finally just had to double him and hope the open guy would miss. He lit me up for 53, LMAO! It was one of my first games though, as I was getting used to the controls...(yeah, that was it)...

what if any bugs have you found not looking for any in particular just want to know if there are any that jump out at you

So far, the only thing I have really noticed is that when I pass it down into the corner, sometimes the defensive player will run towards the offensive player w/ the ball and when he gets there, he does some "Mario Running"...it really looks odd and out of place, but I don't see it too often.

How is the CPU's decision making in terms of passing? Are their too many sloppy passes, or do they make good decisions overall?

I've seen some sloppy passes, but then again, those happen in real life. I definitely don't see it being an issue, I've seen a lot more good passes than bad, for sure. Sometimes the "D" just makes a great play, so while it was a good pass, the "D" just made it look bad.

Still waiting to see which game he prefers, I'm liking the sounds of this though...

Ign has given 2k6 an 8:

PRESENTATION: 7 (LIVE: 8.5)
GRAPHICS: 9 (LIVE 7)
SOUNDS: 8 (LIVE: 7)
GAMEPLAY 8 (LIVE: 9)
LASTING APPEAL 8.5 (LIVE: 9)
OVERALL 8 (LIVE: 9)

Bullshit. How can Live presentation be better? they are complaning that 2k doesn't have end of quarter replays (Live doesn't even have half time recap!!! while 2k does. THERE'S NO WAY Live has a better presentation..this is SOOOO BIASED!!!!

And if you look at each score, you can't understand why the final score is 8 in one case and 9 for Live, in fact the average for both games is 8.1..

This is just a SHAME, for me. I am not gonna trust this guy anymore. The whole thing is SOOO STUPID!

IGN has different people reviewing, it's very stupid. I think if the same guy reviewed it, even though Jon Robinson is hated, he would give it at least something close to a 9. The Jon Robinson guy liked ID, and acknowledged it as a true sim game.

The overall scorers aren't averages, because obviously when talking about a basketball game, Graphics might not matter as much, and definately doesn't weight as much as gameplay etc.

The Review is terrible though, but the thing you have to remember is that IGN is not a sports review site, they're a general gaming review site. Both them and Gamespot have crappy sports reviews for the most part. 2K6 has a big learning curve control wise for a sports game, even Steve from OS was saying he still hasn't gotten the isomotion control down yet, and is still struggling with it a little. I think that has been a reason for a low of the lower scores...

The only review that matters is OS [to those who like to use reviews as a gauge], and even then, I had planned on buying this and NBA Live before any info came out in the first place, so I don't care. I think it will be a great game along with Live, and I will have a lot of basketball fun this year

I've been reading OS all day and judging by the impressions, I'll be going to pick up this game today or tommorrow.

I got the game today and I must say I am impressed . First game , Knicks vs. Hornets , 2 OT already . It takes alot of getting used too , but once you do , this is a game from above . I give it a 9.5 out of 10 . It's definatly worth buying , atleast giving it a try . I need to fix some of the ratings , Darius Miles is an 80!!!! That's pretty high for him . Anyways Go buy it , it takes about 3-4 games playying to get used to the controls , but when you do , you will be satisfied . Association mode isn't bad either . God I'm in love with this game.

NBA 2K6 REVIEW
By Vince15

Well I will start by just saying as soon as I got out of School today i was like FINALLY THE DAY IS HERE. I called EB GAMES just in case and they had it, so did GAMESTOP. I went to GAMESTOP at about 6 pm and I finally had my NBA 2K6 original copy in my hand. The first thing i did was to be pascient. I did all the transactions from Aug. 22 up to Today before starting to play. As soon as i got done with that i played a game New Jersey Nets vs New York Knicks. By just watching the presentation i was in love.

As soon as the game started first shot with vince carter from downtown BANG! 3-0 NJ. It didnt last long, I only scored 19 pts in my first game . I lost badly but i can tell you this game is amazing, the presentation, player movement, realism, commentary, players reaction, free throw shooting, shooting form, IT'S LIKE WATCHING AN NBA GAME IN ESPN! after i was done with that game i played another game versus Cleveland where i won by 8 points. It was a helllll!! of a game, i was up by 12 at halftime they came back i did a little run they answered i mean is WOW realism everywhere you look at. And finally i played my last game since i had to do homework and it was already 10:30 pm.. vs Detroit where it was close untill the 3rd quarter. I lost that game by 19 . Overall i don't know what game IGN has been evaluating but im sure 2K6 deserves way more than a 8.0. This game from what i've heard and saw myself because i played live at EB GAMES IS JUST 20 times better!!!

I wont type more, you must be bored already but seriously people this game is amazing, im not going to denie it... I HAVE BEEN a NBA LIVE fan for years, but it came to an end. THANKS 2K SPORTS for bringing this amazing game to NBA FANS.

Vince15.

I can't wait to pick up this game, although I think it comes out in November here

IGN has different people reviewing, it's very stupid. I think if the same guy reviewed it, even though Jon Robinson is hated, he would give it at least something close to a 9. The Jon Robinson guy liked ID, and acknowledged it as a true sim game.

The overall scorers aren't averages, because obviously when talking about a basketball game, Graphics might not matter as much, and definately doesn't weight as much as gameplay etc.

The Review is terrible though, but the thing you have to remember is that IGN is not a sports review site, they're a general gaming review site. Both them and Gamespot have crappy sports reviews for the most part. 2K6 has a big learning curve control wise for a sports game, even Steve from OS was saying he still hasn't gotten the isomotion control down yet, and is still struggling with it a little. I think that has been a reason for a low of the lower scores...

The only review that matters is OS [to those who like to use reviews as a gauge], and even then, I had planned on buying this and NBA Live before any info came out in the first place, so I don't care. I think it will be a great game along with Live, and I will have a lot of basketball fun this year

very well said
please also remember that a couple years back IGN gave NBA Live 2003 a 8.7 rating so don't take these guys too seriously

I stayed up till 4 a.m playing it last night . I' am so tired , i'm getting ready for school. God this game is FUN!!I WALKED 5 miles just to buy it at the nearest gamestop. It was worth the walk their and back. God bless this game.

Can you guys try something for me?

They said if you create a player, the commentators will say his last name, while the PA will even say his full name. Can you create a player and try that?

Also, can you simulate to the draft and see if the same thing applies to generated rookies??

That would be awesome

The guy created a game with Michael Jordan. It's either that the name is widely known in basketball that, it's already placed on the PA just in case someone created him. Or, they probably had a database of generic first and last names for the PA to shout out. The game will compare that name to the database and try to see if it's in there.

Like Bob Billy, or Michael Jake. Try generic names and see if it'll work.

Does anyone here know the Aussie release date for it?
Im running on 28kbs until the end of the month....so I cannot be bothered waiting 2 or so hours looking for it when I could just ask here

i finally played the game today.. my prayers have been answered they definitely fixed the defense up this year so it's harder to score and get scored on at the same time. iso-motion is different this year. instead of just playing around with the analog sticks, you have to hold the R button (also called the Aggressive button) and juggle with the left analog stick at the same time to pull off a cross over, a drive to the basket, behind the back etc. it took me sometime to get used to because im a dumbass but i thought it was well thought out and integrated into the game. another feature thats pretty cool is the "dual control" feature. pretty much its just like live's freestyle control where you can control another person in your team, but just a little bit limited. you have to run plays for them instead, you can't control these players by yourself.

I wasn't able to go to the store, but I should have this in the next 2 days if I can find it. I'm definately very excited

I got the game as well. This game is much more realistic than NBA Live or maybe even any other basketball game out there. It does have its flaws though. I think one of the more noticable things is that the FG% is quite low in this game, more like a regular NBA game. The defense is a lot better, and the AI offense has improved as well...but they still drive with their PG most of the time. Billups once had 17 attempts when he only made 2 of them! What the hell? Oh well. However, the realism in this game is quite impressive. I'm not saying NBA 2k6 is better per se though. NBA Live might be a lot more arcadish, but it's still quite fun. This is by FAR a better sim game though.

^ you're bang on.
pun very well intended

live is fun as well, i love that new freestyle superstar shit but i can't really play a full 12 minute game with live compared to 2k6.. i'm sure i will be able to when i get bored of 2k6 though.

bang, do you know how to play defense aside from using the rip stick? i can't do jack all.