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Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:44 pm
Riot wrote:Nick wrote:Riot i thought you were joking around when you found this funny. I mean, i admit i found this video funny too... but that's only because it's so mean that it's funny... not because i'm a racist.
But Riot, i can't believe you believe all the bullshit that's flying out of your mouth (or keyboard). Thinking about this > Everybody on earth is equal, you sick prick. 
I don't know what you just said.
That's because you're a product of the American education system.
Immigrants are not stealing from America, they keep it going. If there were no such thing as the lower class, American would fall apart. They are doing the shitty jobs, so "real Americans" don't have to. Would you rather live in a country in which you could spend thousands of dollars on your education, achieve a degree in your chosen field, or even a masters or doctorate, and then go out into the real world and spend 40 years earning minimum wage? Be grateful that you live in a country where if you work hard, you can earn a good living for you and your family.
Its really disappointing to hear that this kind of racism still exists in the world. Anyone from any race should be permitted to live and work anywhere on earth they should choose.
I realize that you live in a country where you have in recent years been conditioned to fear any culure outside your own. I realize that you live in a country where you are conditioned to live in fear of endless (and non-existent) threats. And as such, a large chunk of your governments surplus (now a deficit) has been spent on protecting youselves from the "evil doers."
Give it up. Stop living in fear and doubt, and for fucks sake, stop blaming every country on earth but your own for all your problems. America has fucked up America. Not the Mexicans, not the Iraqis, and not Al-Queada. Your government should stop focussing on protection (which seems to include violence, hatred and greed) and started focussing on improving the quality of life of the people who struggle to maintain a decent living for their families in the 'land of opportunity.'
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:48 pm
Kevin, you get a standing ovation for that

.. couldn't agree with you more..well said
Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:28 am
I don't like getting in big discussions of politics and things like that, but I'll just say something. It's very easy for people outside the US (and it seems like this is the majority, except for IndyPacers and Mazz) to say things like "Illegal immigrants only take jobs that no one else in America would take". I'm sure everyone who posted in this thread would prefer not to clean the restrooms at McDonald's. But I don't think you can say that if someone was desperate, they would not take that job. To say illegal immigrants are the only lower class citizens in America is ridiculous. There are plenty of people struggling to get by just like any other illegal immigrant might be. There are ghettos in America that are filled with poverty.
As for Andreas's stand on why Mexicans may have babies even if they don't have a good enough job, does that mean they should be able to have babies whenever they want at America's expense? There's nothing wrong with Sweden, but since you don't live in America you aren't the one feeling the ill effects. As I said before, there is certainly a lower class in America that would take jobs. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you hear about Americans being stuck up and full of themselves. We have our fair share of blue collar workers, and if you choose to ignore that you are ignorant.
Dweaver, your 'American pilot' scenario seems a bit warped to me. It's laughable if you actually think that it's so typical for American pilots to crash. We don't put people who are mentally retarded in the sky, we actually work hard in training. Again, I hope you don't believe that every American is stuck up and full of themself. As for them stoning him in public, we do nothing of the sort. We don't inflict any physical pain on them, we send them back to their home country. It is unfortunate if they then suffer their, but their is only so much we can do. We get blamed for being active in the world's problems (Saddam Hussein in Iraq), and get blamed for not doing anything (Africa, not helping illegal immigrants from Mexico). We can never do anything right in the eyes of other countries, and personally I don't care very much anymore.
Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:40 am
Illegal immigration is bad for the United States. It hurts Americans.
Legal immigration, within manageable numbers, is vital to America. But the immigration lawlessness that has emerged in the last decade is a national disgrace to all decent law-abiding citizens.
Many al-Qaeda terrorists were in the United States illegally. Neither D.C. sniper belonged on our streets due to their immigration violations. Three illegal alien children were beheaded in Baltimore allegedly because their parents were too slow to pay for smuggling fees owed.
Lax law enforcement brutally and catastrophically hurts us.
Teachers and school boards deal daily with overcrowding and demands for special resources because of illegal immigration. Illegal immigration exacerbates traffic congestion, urban sprawl, gang and drug problems, depletion of our natural resources, and a return of diseases like tuberculosis and leprosy.
Billions of people live in countries that cannot feed, educate or employ them. If we continue to offer food stamps, taxpayer-paid medical care, subsidized housing, and our many other resources; we will be overrun by the continued invasion of millions of impoverished people.
Our immigration laws are good laws that protect Americans. Indifference only brings us more government chaos, terrible tragedies, and the road to our own demise. Military troops must be placed on our borders, we must enforce immigration laws here where we live, and the government of Mexico must stop promoting and assisting the illegal migration of its people into our Country.
Workers for critical industries are allowed to enter the country legally. Arguments to the contrary are pure balderdash. There are those who seek financial and political profit from the uneducated masses of millions of culturally isolated, easily exploited, poor and desperate people. Whoever and whatever the motives of the profiteers may be, We, the people of the United States must demand our security, our rights, and the needs of our families and fellow citizens come first.
Illegal immigration is bad for the United States. It hurts Americans.
Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:37 am
Kevin. wrote:That's because you're a product of the American education system.
Immigrants are not stealing from America, they keep it going. If there were no such thing as the lower class, American would fall apart. They are doing the shitty jobs, so "real Americans" don't have to. Would you rather live in a country in which you could spend thousands of dollars on your education, achieve a degree in your chosen field, or even a masters or doctorate, and then go out into the real world and spend 40 years earning minimum wage? Be grateful that you live in a country where if you work hard, you can earn a good living for you and your family.
Its really disappointing to hear that this kind of racism still exists in the world. Anyone from any race should be permitted to live and work anywhere on earth they should choose.
I realize that you live in a country where you have in recent years been conditioned to fear any culure outside your own. I realize that you live in a country where you are conditioned to live in fear of endless (and non-existent) threats. And as such, a large chunk of your governments surplus (now a deficit) has been spent on protecting youselves from the "evil doers."
Give it up. Stop living in fear and doubt, and for fucks sake, stop blaming every country on earth but your own for all your problems. America has fucked up America. Not the Mexicans, not the Iraqis, and not Al-Queada. Your government should stop focussing on protection (which seems to include violence, hatred and greed) and started focussing on improving the quality of life of the people who struggle to maintain a decent living for their families in the 'land of opportunity.'
Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:39 am
I never said I didn't like immigrants. This whole debate is about ILLEGAL immigrants.
Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:39 am
Again, you resort to reading material made by people with the same stupid ideology. Riot you obviously didn't read the posts on this page and last..again like I said in my post, Illegal Immigration is wrong but to do something like that in the video is even worse.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:49 pm
D-Weaver 99027 wrote:
Just place yourself in their shoes for a moment, and picture yourself in need of work... Would you not do the exact same things they do? Noooo, you'd respect "American" jobs and strike down "illegal immigration" even if you were not a Gringo, no, amigo?
So go ahead and bask in the sight of the Swastika, idiot.
Picture yourself as a Canadian. Now imagine thousands of homeless from the United States coming to your country to leech off of you, turning once nice communities into gaffitied (sp?) garbage, and being one of the highest factors in crime.. running back to the states after they commit a murder or rape because the US won't assist your government in capturing criminals that flee back.
If you don't think this happens, you are evidently from an area not directly affected by the problem.
So go ahead and bask in the sight of La Raza, idiot.[/quote]
Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:02 pm
Andreas Dahl wrote:"Mexicans are so dumb"?
There are a few reasons I think for having more babies. Perhaps they, oh-I-don't-know, love each other? Economy isn't something you should keep in consideration if you love the other person in my opinion. I'm not a fan of the whole, '
Oh I love you so with all my hart, but you should get a better job first'-mentality... There's also the fact that some might need to have many children in order for them to have a future what so ever (high SIDS and so on). Besides, birth control isn't something that everyone has. Then there are also the things about wanting to bring another life into the world, and experiencing the strongest feeling a person can feel.
Yeah, thats it. It has nothing to do with the fact that alot of them make "anchor babies" just so they can get a free ride, instead of earning the right as a citizen like so many others do/did.
By the way, show this video to a Mexican that went through HELL to get his citizenship here and see how he reacts. If he laughs is he a racist too? Moron.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:08 pm
1: Can you please post all of your responses in one post, as opposed to making numerous separate posts.
2: Insulting people at the end of your posts is uncalled for and unnecessary. So stop it.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:09 pm
Picture this scenario.
American pilot goes on a covert ops mission in a middle East country. (Needless to say, he has no legal grounds to be in that airspace.)
American Pilot crashes (Typical. Who trains them, anyway? )
American Pilot gets arrested.
American Pilot gets stoned in public view.
hahahaha, all the natives watch the video and laugh their asses off. he DID break teh law, didn't he? So he deserves it... and it's pretty damn funny. Or Not?
Oh yes, he's American... he wages war against evil and terror... he can't possibly be wrong, can he? Ooooh, set him loose now, stoning him is illegal.
Idiotic Americans...

That has to be the stupidest fucking analogy I have ever read. Are you really this stupid?
Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:53 am
I think me and sadsack will get along just fine.
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:55 am
I found the video funny, doesn't mean i have anything against beaners... (sp?)
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:00 am
Picture yourself as a Canadian. Now imagine thousands of homeless from the United States coming to your country to leech off of you, turning once nice communities into gaffitied (sp?) garbage, and being one of the highest factors in crime.. running back to the states after they commit a murder or rape because the US won't assist your government in capturing criminals that flee back.
If you don't think this happens, you are evidently from an area not directly affected by the problem.
Check where Greece sits geographically and just make an assumption as to how many illegal immigrants we get, their financial state and the difficulty in controlling our entire borderline. Then go to your mirror and say: "Dipshit".
By the way, show this video to a Mexican that went through HELL to get his citizenship here and see how he reacts. If he laughs is he a racist too? Moron.
What an idiot... 3 posts and he owns us all, eh? ...
That has to be the stupidest fucking analogy I have ever read. Are you really this stupid?
I would be if I took your idiocy as a valid point. Now buzz off.
I think me and sadsack will get along just fine.
'SadSack' and 'Riot'... yes, you SHOULD get along just fine...
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:44 am
Maybe if the US stopped scrutinizing against every little thing wrong and focusing on trying to eliminate negatives (we all know that flag burning is the source of everything wrong in the world!) and instead tried to do something positive to improve the state of things in the world then maybe they would be "doing something right in the eyes of other countries".
Just my 2 cents.
BTW, the vid was funny until I realized what was going on in it. There's not much racism here so I don't usually recognize it right away.
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:59 am
I wouldn't worry about sadsack... probably MikeD just crawling back again
Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:31 am
IndyPacers67 wrote:Riot wrote:The freaking immigrants are willing to work for BELOW minimal wage. What the fuck are we suppose to do?
America's border patrol sucks hairy nuts. I hate illegal immigrants. Not only can they not speak english but they think they are actually apart of America and they can do whatever they want. God damn, they piss me off.
You sound so much like Derek from American History X.
That's exactly what I thought, too!
Riot wrote:I know you can't completely shut the whole border down. That's totally unrealistic. But the fact that Bush isn't even talking about it or putting much attention on it makes me angry. The border right now is a joke.
I think that's the point I tried to make about Bush focusing more on homeland security than wasting resources on the Iraqi war. It's refreshing to hear you admit it.
About the whole border thing, I thought America was a land of opportunity and tolerance. Guess not
Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:20 am
So you don't mind if myself and hundreds of other families came to Canada from the US illegally and took you and your friends' jobs? And if you did mind, would you care if we called you unforgiving and intolerant of immigrants? I don't mind what you believe, but saying something like you did in that last sentence is ignorant.
Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:27 am
You guys are lucky you don't have Mexico on your ass. You'd be crying about immigration too. Good grief it's a freaking Mexican farm down south.
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:56 pm
FendeR` wrote:So you don't mind if myself and hundreds of other families came to Canada from the US illegally and took you and your friends' jobs? And if you did mind, would you care if we called you unforgiving and intolerant of immigrants? I don't mind what you believe, but saying something like you did in that last sentence is ignorant.
Naw, I don't mind. Canada's population is actually relatively small. We sure could use more people to make this country prosper more. I wouldn't be too worried about my job or my friends' jobs. It's not like illegal immigrants can have jobs where a degree or a diploma is a requirement. I'm sure Canadian employers wouldn't want to run the risk of taking in illegal immagrants for an extra profit. Btw, I wonder how our border control are these days.
The above statement has a lot of subtle sarcasm, but I hope it makes my point. Sorry about the last statement, I don't mean to generalize Americans in general, but the statement was more directly for Riot.
Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:58 pm
Directly for Riot. Figures!
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:01 pm
lol, your comments about Mexicans weren't exactly like... your sig
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:00 pm
Riot is innocent like a flower... right?
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:01 pm
Yes he is...
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:16 pm
Maybe a poisonous flower.. is there such thing as a redneck flower?
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