The new Rock/metal/music-thread

The money bands make is mostly from tours. They get a shit load of money from touring, hence people like The Rolling Stones. I mean if you think about it, some bullshit little band can get $50 for playing in front of 12 people at a pub who didn't even pay to go there... how much do you think someone like Metallica is going to make when they play say 50 shows around the World, with 20 odd thousand people at each paying over $100 a ticket.

Money shouldn't be the reason for putting out music in my book. And that's all there is to it.

I disagree... music for money is good by me, as long as the music is good. If you like it, who cares what their motives are behind it.

The money bands make is mostly from tours. They get a shit load of money from touring, hence people like The Rolling Stones. I mean if you think about it, some bullshit little band can get $50 for playing in front of 12 people at a pub who didn't even pay to go there... how much do you think someone like Metallica is going to make when they play say 50 shows around the World, with 20 odd thousand people at each paying over $100 a ticket.

Money shouldn't be the reason for putting out music in my book. And that's all there is to it.

I disagree... music for money is good by me, as long as the music is good. If you like it, who cares what their motives are behind it.

Exactly . Good music is good music, it doesn't matter if they are just doing it for money.

It just annoys me when shitty bands (good charlotte , simple plan) can top teh charts and get all these teenyboppers worshipping them when other great bands are getting unnoticed or getting the respect they deserve.

I like a few songs by the bands you hate, Jowe.

I'm sorry it scares me to actually like it, but what the hell can you do?

Simple Plan need to be removed from music permanately.

True that but "All Downhill From Here" is one of my favorite songs.

Simple Plan are making good on the promise they made to thousands of screaming fans in March and returning to Australia and New Zealand for their first headline tour.
Touring Auckland, Christchurch, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, and Perth, Simple Plan will hit major venues in September and October.

Simple Plan need to be removed from music permanately.

I take it this means you will not be attending?

Back to the real music, I've recently been listening to a bit of Strike Anywhere, Alexisonfire and Evergreen Terrace.

Big alexisonfire fan

Simple Plan are making good on the promise they made to thousands of screaming fans

By screaming fans, I think they mean screaming teenage girls. On the tram with my gf once there was this weird girl with 2 guys who were obviously planning on raping her later or something, anyways she kept making them listen to the "Welcome to my life" lyric over and over and over and over again... I was going to throw her off the tram it was driving me nuts.

time I finally posted here...

anyone wanna start a mob to kill Simple Plan or something?

So very mainstream-ish.

Don't think I'm really sold on any really big band, mostly because they don't play the music I like, and I'm just against music created for profit (post Metallica (black album) and everything after Use Your Illusion II).

Are smoking crack? everything after use your illusion II?
What album would that be? Chinese democracy that has been delayed for 11 years now?..


People making music to earn some money, oh shame on them.

Rather the bazillion of greatest hits (here in Sweden I've seen 3, dunno if there are more). And yeah, music made for profit is fucking bullshit. Sure you should make money, but it shouldn't be the driving force behind the creation. Then the reason behind arts is lost and instantly goes on my shitlist, no matter the artist.

Jona - Not Rush. Never Rush. 2112 is one of the top-50 albums of all times.

Top 5 I'd say. But anyways...

ROCK ON!!!

So very mainstream-ish.

Don't think I'm really sold on any really big band, mostly because they don't play the music I like, and I'm just against music created for profit (post Metallica (black album) and everything after Use Your Illusion II).

Are smoking crack? everything after use your illusion II?
What album would that be? Chinese democracy that has been delayed for 11 years now?..


People making music to earn some money, oh shame on them.

Rather the bazillion of greatest hits (here in Sweden I've seen 3, dunno if there are more). And yeah, music made for profit is fucking bullshit. Sure you should make money, but it shouldn't be the driving force behind the creation. Then the reason behind arts is lost and instantly goes on my shitlist, no matter the artist.

Jona - Not Rush. Never Rush. 2112 is one of the top-50 albums of all times.

Guns n roses have only released one greatest hits album, and the band & axl themselves tried to stop it being released. The record company are the ones that released it....

You've seen three? ... Did you see the loch ness monster too. They were bootlegs. Most of the time the artist hardly see any money from record sales, the only time they get a fat paycheck is when they tour.

Yeah, my former roommate had three, but since i loathe GNR I didn't look too closly. But they didn't look like bootlegs to me.
And your claim that artists seldom see money from recordsales are more relevant today, but before the p2p-boom (when this is relevant) it's not.

No matter if they make money through the records, that's not the basis of what I'm saying.
When music is created in the purpose of making money, I find it to be crap and the artist directly slots themselves into "we're whores" category that I have in my head somewhere.

Money shouldn't be the reason for putting out music in my book. And that's all there is to it.

No... I'm talking about if you buy an album.. now or ten years ago. More then likely less then 10% of it goes to the artist. All the money goes to the record company.

The artists make their money from the contract they sign with the record company. Thats when you hear people calling bands / artists sellouts, is when they sign to big record companys for a load of money.

Selling alot of albums, doesn't make an artist a music sell out whore.

If thats the case are you calling Led Zeppelin, Queen, Black Sabbath sellout whores?

No, since I don't think that money was the reason they created music. You miss my point by a continent.

I couldn't care less if the artist makes money of their music, I think that's excellent. But the money in itself shouldn't be the reason for making it. Creativity and love for the music should be the driving force.

Should should should... but does it really matter? Like are you going to listen to a song, like it, then change your mind if you find out they only really made it for money? It's their lives, let them do what they want... if you don't like the music, bag the band and don't listen to it... if you do like the music and it's made just for money, then great. Music's not going to die if people just do it for money.

Is anyone on here into the Indie Rock scene?

I'm talking about people like Ted Leo & The Pharmacists, The Decemberists, The Mars Volta, Iron and Wine, Death Cab for Cutie, etc...

i lost my heavy metal feel these days...i am more on the Coldplay and Weezer songs these days..plus greenday of course

Yes Green Day can get it going.

Is anyone on here into the Indie Rock scene?

I'm talking about people like Ted Leo & The Pharmacists, The Decemberists, The Mars Volta, Iron and Wine, Death Cab for Cutie, etc...

I've heard of Death Cab a little bit. just a couple of songs though. They're pretty good

The Mars Volta came to Chile a few months ago, I think...

Big alexisonfire fan

Yeah they ain't to shabby.

Looking forward to catching them when they're out here again.

I have a small list of bands I want to see, I doubt any of them will come to Adelaide though. It's usually Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne and sometimes Perth. They just seem to forget Adelaide exists.

Anyways, I got 2 Muse CD's today and have been hugely reminded of just how great they are... Plug In Baby is one of the best songs I've heard

Muse is indeed the shit. But my new band of the moment is Sleater Kinney, nerver saw their brilliance before, but with the new album ...wow.

PJ Harvey with more attitude.

Alexisonfire is playing in Adelaide on the 8th of August! Tickets are only $35 so I'm definitely going. Might also be going to Alice Cooper and Billy Thorpe.

Alexisonfire is playing in Adelaide on the 8th of August! Tickets are only $35 so I'm definitely going. Might also be going to Alice Cooper and Billy Thorpe.

lol where are you gonna get the money for alice cooper man? the tix are 160bucks a pop.

Alexisonfire is playing in Adelaide on the 8th of August! Tickets are only $35 so I'm definitely going. Might also be going to Alice Cooper and Billy Thorpe.

lol where are you gonna get the money for alice cooper man? the tix are 160bucks a pop.

They're $95-$135. I just printed out an info thing from Venutix. My mum will buy them, she really wants to see Billy Thorpe so if she goes I'll tag along.

Alexisonfire is playing in Adelaide on the 8th of August! Tickets are only $35 so I'm definitely going. Might also be going to Alice Cooper and Billy Thorpe.

lol where are you gonna get the money for alice cooper man? the tix are 160bucks a pop.

Wanna hear something crazy? My parents knew Alice Cooper. They haven't talked to him in like 10 years or something like that, but my mom was really good friends with someone whos sister married Alice Cooper. So both of my parents have been to Alice Coopers house to parties.

Wanna know something even more crazy? Alice Cooper is a republican. When they knew him he was very pro-regan, and he supported right-wing politics.

Thats right this guy is a republican

Is he still a republican when Bush took over?

Is he still a republican when Bush took over?

I have no clue, but I assume so. I mean, the republican agenda is still the same as it was 20 years ago.