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Epic bad guys + "grey" characters.

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Epic bad guys + "grey" characters.

Postby Jackal on Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:58 am

After watching Ledger's Joker, I realized I seem to like "grey" characters a whole lot. It's no surprise I get a total hard on from Tyler Durden and Patrick Bateman.

Figured I'd ask you guys who your favorite badasses are.

Here's a list of mine:

  • Ledger's Joker - The Dark Knight.
  • Tyler Durden - Fight Club.
  • Patrick Batman - American Psycho.
  • Alex De Large - A Clockwork Orange.
  • John Doe - Se7en.
  • Tony Montana - Scarface.
  • Dr. Hannibal Lecter - Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal, Red Dragon.
  • R.P. McMurphy (sort of?) - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.
  • Anton Chigurh - No Country For Old Men.
  • Bill "The Butcher" - Gangs of New York.
  • Kaiser Soze - The Usual Suspects.
  • Stansfield - Leon (The Proffesional).
  • Travis Bickle - Taxi Driver.
  • Frank White - King of New York.
  • Mr. Blonde - Reservoir Dogs.
  • Nicky Santoro - Casino.
  • Derek Vinyard - American History X.
  • Alonzo - Training Day.
  • Costello - The Departed.
  • Li'l Ze - Cidade de Deus
  • The Jackal - The Jackal. (You know I had to add him.)
  • V - V for Vendetta.
  • Agent Smith - The Matrix.
Michael Corleone? Daniel Craig James Bond?

Italic means favorites.

Your thoughts?
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Postby benji on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:08 am

Omar.
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Postby Drex on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:11 am

It's Keyser Soze, you dumb bitch.
I don't really get the grey character thing, but from what I see in your list, it's about guys not entirely bad, but not good either, right?

I'd add Jules from Pulp Fiction and Slevin from Lucky Number Slevin if that's the case. If not, well, then I ain't addin' shit, foo' :mrt:
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Postby Jackal on Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:11 pm

benji wrote:Omar.


Wasn't going to add TV guys given I'm not much of a TV person. But...add:

Vic Mackey!
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Postby wade_03 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:50 pm

Tyler Durden & Tony Montana are definitely at the top. Alonzo & V are good ones as well, but Michael Corleone sounds like a familiar badass, from which movie is he from? If you guys seen the movies Juice and Paid In Full, Tupac & Camron are some pretty good badasses, respectively, in those movies.
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Postby cyanide on Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:01 pm

Holy shit :shock: That list pretty much correlates to my top favorites too. The only other guy I'd add in is Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood.
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Postby Jackal on Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:18 pm

wade_03 wrote:Michael Corleone sounds like a familiar badass.


Some movie called "The Godfather".

The only other guy I'd add in is Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood.


I thought that movie went on for too long, as good as he was, it went on too long for me.
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Postby The X on Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:00 am

Patrick Bateman in American Psycho was great....hard not to like his character 8-)
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Postby Jackal on Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:34 am

Dexter! (He uses Patrick Bateman as an alias on the show too.)
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Postby dansensei on Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:25 pm

Hannibal Lecter. he's just so smart, the way he thinks is just way beyond the normal person.
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Postby Null17 on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:48 pm

Oooo, we have something in common .. Let's hook up . Lol

From your list , therse are the only ones s I I've seen:
* Ledger's Joker - The Dark Knight.
* Tyler Durden - Fight Club.
* Alex De Large - A Clockwork Orange.
* Travis Bickle - Taxi Driver.
* Frank White - King of New York.
* Derek Vinyard - American History X.
* Costello - The Departed.
* V - V for Vendetta.
* Agent Smith - The Matrix.

and Corleone of course.

Faves would be Joker, Durden, V and Corleone.
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Postby benji on Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:11 pm

How exactly is The Dark Knight's Joker "grey"? Or Soze and Stansfield for that matter.

Just wondering what the definition of "grey" being used here is...
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Postby Jackal on Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:32 pm

Hmm, neither are grey indeed. Both are pretty badass though.

Epic bad guys + grey characters. Better?
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Postby Oznogrd on Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:12 pm

Michael Corleone is my number one.
Some others have been previously mentioned but how about sweeney todd? *avoids barrage for liking musicals*
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Postby benji on Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:22 pm

Jackal wrote:Epic bad guys + grey characters. Better?

Yeah, I wasn't actually criticizing (as is commonly understood), but I was thinking of more people to add and looking at the posted lists to get the "frame of mind" and noticed that.
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Postby cyanide on Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:47 pm

Sweeney Todd is quite a sinister character. I'd probably list him, though I had higher expectations for the movie. I'm not sure if it's because I can't enjoy musicals.
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Postby Jackal on Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:38 am

No, no, I didn't take it offensively. I figured some of them weren't "grey" hence the ? behind McMurphy. I just didn't know how else to word it at that moment.

I do believe you guys about him being sinister, he seemed that way from the trailers alone...

But sinister people shouldn't break out in to songs.

Uhm, Tony Soprano!
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Postby Oznogrd on Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:56 am

cyanide wrote:Sweeney Todd is quite a sinister character. I'd probably list him, though I had higher expectations for the movie. I'm not sure if it's because I can't enjoy musicals.


He isnt sinister at the start though...he is only sinister after he goes mad with revenge...
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Postby Jackal on Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:00 am

He still sings.
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Postby Oznogrd on Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:38 am

so does alex de large...:P
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Postby Jackal on Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:51 pm

His song is creepy cool though. Plus his sinister level surely surpasses the barber. Right?
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Postby Brave Sir Rubin on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:44 am

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Postby Patr1ck on Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:22 am

The Black Night - Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Al Bundy - Married.. With Children
Boris the Blade aka Boris the Bullet Dodger - Snatch "Because he dodges bullets, Avi."
Darth Vader - Star Wars
Clarence Boddicker - Robocop
Jigsaw - Saw
The Joker - Jack Nicholson's version
C Montgomery Burns - The Simpsons
Megatron - Transformers animated series
Hans Gruber - Die Hard
Jules Winnfield - Pulp Fiction
Agent Smith - The Matrix
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Postby Oznogrd on Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:08 am

Jackal wrote:His song is creepy cool though. Plus his sinister level surely surpasses the barber. Right?


Depends on your point of view. Ultraviolence/rape versus Ultraviolence/cannibalism? you be the judge
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Postby Jackal on Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:23 am

It's me you're talking to.

Rape for the win!
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