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Tuomas
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Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:38 pm

1. How big is NLSC forum? In mb
2. How can I add a chatroom to my forum
Check my forum here
3. How can I add the links under the logo
(Like NLSC has NLSC Home :: Member Rules....)[/url]
 
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Fri Jun 13, 2003 6:37 pm

The forum database is about...35-40 MB right now, if I remember rightly. The avatar folder contains about 1.5-2 MB of images.

To add a chat room, you would have to download the appropriate add-on from phpbb.com. I don't have the chat room add-on installed in this forum, but it should be fairly easy to install.

To add links under the logo, simply edit the .tpl file you changed when you added your own logo to the top of your forum. Just add the appropriate HTML under the logo, and you're set.
 
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Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:20 pm

I have browsed them website but have'nt find a chat add-on. Could anyone help me to find one?

:oops: *Cough* what file was it (specification) what html should be changed and with what program?
 
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Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:39 pm

The file you changed to replace the phpBB logo with your own image is the file you need to edit. That should be overall_header.tpl, found in the templates/subSilver folder. You can open it with any HTML editor, or even Windows Notepad (if you select to browse all files).

From there, it's just normal HTML to add hyperlinks,

Code:
<A HREF="http://www.nba-live.com">NLSC Home</A>


for example.
 
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Fri Jun 13, 2003 10:53 pm

okay. I'll give it a shot.
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 5:09 am

whopsie, I opened the file with notepad, and the code is like this:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html dir="{S_CONTENT_DIRECTION}">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset={S_CONTENT_ENCODING}">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">
{META}
{NAV_LINKS}
<title>{SITENAME} :: {PAGE_TITLE}</title>
<!-- link rel="stylesheet" href="templates/subSilver/{T_HEAD_STYLESHEET}" type="text/css" -->
<style type="text/css">
<!--
/*
The original subSilver Theme for phpBB version 2+
Created by subBlue design
http://www.subBlue.com

NOTE: These CSS definitions are stored within the main page body so that you can use the phpBB2
theme administration centre. When you have finalised your style you could cut the final CSS code
and place it in an external file, deleting this section to save bandwidth.
*/

/* General page style. The scroll bar colours only visible in IE5.5+ */
body {
background-color: {T_BODY_BGCOLOR};
scrollbar-face-color: {T_TR_COLOR2};
scrollbar-highlight-color: {T_TD_COLOR2};
scrollbar-shadow-color: {T_TR_COLOR2};
scrollbar-3dlight-color: {T_TR_COLOR3};
scrollbar-arrow-color: {T_BODY_LINK};
scrollbar-track-color: {T_TR_COLOR1};
scrollbar-darkshadow-color: {T_TH_COLOR1};
}

/* General font families for common tags */
font,th,td,p { font-family: {T_FONTFACE1} }
a:link,a:active,a:visited { color : {T_BODY_LINK}; }
a:hover { text-decoration: underline; color : {T_BODY_HLINK}; }
hr { height: 0px; border: solid {T_TR_COLOR3} 0px; border-top-width: 1px;}

/* This is the border line & background colour round the entire page */
.bodyline { background-color: {T_TD_COLOR2}; border: 1px {T_TH_COLOR1} solid; }

/* This is the outline round the main forum tables */
.forumline { background-color: {T_TD_COLOR2}; border: 2px {T_TH_COLOR2} solid; }

/* Main table cell colours and backgrounds */
td.row1 { background-color: {T_TR_COLOR1}; }
td.row2 { background-color: {T_TR_COLOR2}; }
td.row3 { background-color: {T_TR_COLOR3}; }

/*
This is for the table cell above the Topics, Post & Last posts on the index.php page
By default this is the fading out gradiated silver background.
However, you could replace this with a bitmap specific for each forum
*/
td.rowpic {
background-color: {T_TD_COLOR2};
background-image: url(templates/subSilver/images/{T_TH_CLASS3});
background-repeat: repeat-y;
}

/* Header cells - the blue and silver gradient backgrounds */
th {
color: {T_FONTCOLOR3}; font-size: {T_FONTSIZE2}px; font-weight : bold;
background-color: {T_BODY_LINK}; height: 25px;
background-image: url(templates/subSilver/images/{T_TH_CLASS2});
}

td.cat,td.catHead,td.catSides,td.catLeft,td.catRight,td.catBottom {
background-image: url(templates/subSilver/images/{T_TH_CLASS1});
background-color:{T_TR_COLOR3}; border: {T_TH_COLOR3}; border-style: solid; height: 28px;
}

/*
Setting additional nice inner borders for the main table cells.
The names indicate which sides the border will be on.
Don't worry if you don't understand this, just ignore it :-)
*/
td.cat,td.catHead,td.catBottom {
height: 29px;
border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
}
th.thHead,th.thSides,th.thTop,th.thLeft,th.thRight,th.thBottom,th.thCornerL,th.thCornerR {
font-weight: bold; border: {T_TD_COLOR2}; border-style: solid; height: 28px;
}
td.row3Right,td.spaceRow {
background-color: {T_TR_COLOR3}; border: {T_TH_COLOR3}; border-style: solid;
}

th.thHead,td.catHead { font-size: {T_FONTSIZE3}px; border-width: 1px 1px 0px 1px; }
th.thSides,td.catSides,td.spaceRow { border-width: 0px 1px 0px 1px; }
th.thRight,td.catRight,td.row3Right { border-width: 0px 1px 0px 0px; }
th.thLeft,td.catLeft { border-width: 0px 0px 0px 1px; }
th.thBottom,td.catBottom { border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px; }
th.thTop { border-width: 1px 0px 0px 0px; }
th.thCornerL { border-width: 1px 0px 0px 1px; }
th.thCornerR { border-width: 1px 1px 0px 0px; }

/* The largest text used in the index page title and toptic title etc. */
.maintitle {
font-weight: bold; font-size: 22px; font-family: "{T_FONTFACE2}",{T_FONTFACE1};
text-decoration: none; line-height : 120%; color : {T_BODY_TEXT};
}

/* General text */
.gen { font-size : {T_FONTSIZE3}px; }
.genmed { font-size : {T_FONTSIZE2}px; }
.gensmall { font-size : {T_FONTSIZE1}px; }
.gen,.genmed,.gensmall { color : {T_BODY_TEXT}; }
a.gen,a.genmed,a.gensmall { color: {T_BODY_LINK}; text-decoration: none; }
a.gen:hover,a.genmed:hover,a.gensmall:hover { color: {T_BODY_HLINK}; text-decoration: underline; }

/* The register, login, search etc links at the top of the page */
.mainmenu { font-size : {T_FONTSIZE2}px; color : {T_BODY_TEXT} }
a.mainmenu { text-decoration: none; color : {T_BODY_LINK}; }
a.mainmenu:hover{ text-decoration: underline; color : {T_BODY_HLINK}; }

/* Forum category titles */
.cattitle { font-weight: bold; font-size: {T_FONTSIZE3}px ; letter-spacing: 1px; color : {T_BODY_LINK}}
a.cattitle { text-decoration: none; color : {T_BODY_LINK}; }
a.cattitle:hover{ text-decoration: underline; }

/* Forum title: Text and link to the forums used in: index.php */
.forumlink { font-weight: bold; font-size: {T_FONTSIZE3}px; color : {T_BODY_LINK}; }
a.forumlink { text-decoration: none; color : {T_BODY_LINK}; }
a.forumlink:hover{ text-decoration: underline; color : {T_BODY_HLINK}; }

/* Used for the navigation text, (Page 1,2,3 etc) and the navigation bar when in a forum */
.nav { font-weight: bold; font-size: {T_FONTSIZE2}px; color : {T_BODY_TEXT};}
a.nav { text-decoration: none; color : {T_BODY_LINK}; }
a.nav:hover { text-decoration: underline; }

/* titles for the topics: could specify viewed link colour too */
.topictitle,h1,h2 { font-weight: bold; font-size: {T_FONTSIZE2}px; color : {T_BODY_TEXT}; }
a.topictitle:link { text-decoration: none; color : {T_BODY_LINK}; }
a.topictitle:visited { text-decoration: none; color : {T_BODY_VLINK}; }
a.topictitle:hover { text-decoration: underline; color : {T_BODY_HLINK}; }

/* Name of poster in viewmsg.php and viewtopic.php and other places */
.name { font-size : {T_FONTSIZE2}px; color : {T_BODY_TEXT};}

/* Location, number of posts, post date etc */
.postdetails { font-size : {T_FONTSIZE1}px; color : {T_BODY_TEXT}; }

/* The content of the posts (body of text) */
.postbody { font-size : {T_FONTSIZE3}px; line-height: 18px}
a.postlink:link { text-decoration: none; color : {T_BODY_LINK} }
a.postlink:visited { text-decoration: none; color : {T_BODY_VLINK}; }
a.postlink:hover { text-decoration: underline; color : {T_BODY_HLINK}}

/* Quote & Code blocks */
.code {
font-family: {T_FONTFACE3}; font-size: {T_FONTSIZE2}px; color: {T_FONTCOLOR2};
background-color: {T_TD_COLOR1}; border: {T_TR_COLOR3}; border-style: solid;
border-left-width: 1px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px
}

.quote {
font-family: {T_FONTFACE1}; font-size: {T_FONTSIZE2}px; color: {T_FONTCOLOR1}; line-height: 125%;
background-color: {T_TD_COLOR1}; border: {T_TR_COLOR3}; border-style: solid;
border-left-width: 1px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px
}

/* Copyright and bottom info */
.copyright { font-size: {T_FONTSIZE1}px; font-family: {T_FONTFACE1}; color: {T_FONTCOLOR1}; letter-spacing: -1px;}
a.copyright { color: {T_FONTCOLOR1}; text-decoration: none;}
a.copyright:hover { color: {T_BODY_TEXT}; text-decoration: underline;}

/* Form elements */
input,textarea, select {
color : {T_BODY_TEXT};
font: normal {T_FONTSIZE2}px {T_FONTFACE1};
border-color : {T_BODY_TEXT};
}

/* The text input fields background colour */
input.post, textarea.post, select {
background-color : {T_TD_COLOR2};
}

input { text-indent : 2px; }

/* The buttons used for bbCode styling in message post */
input.button {
background-color : {T_TR_COLOR1};
color : {T_BODY_TEXT};
font-size: {T_FONTSIZE2}px; font-family: {T_FONTFACE1};
}

/* The main submit button option */
input.mainoption {
background-color : {T_TD_COLOR1};
font-weight : bold;
}

/* None-bold submit button */
input.liteoption {
background-color : {T_TD_COLOR1};
font-weight : normal;
}

/* This is the line in the posting page which shows the rollover
help line. This is actually a text box, but if set to be the same
colour as the background no one will know ;)
*/
.helpline { background-color: {T_TR_COLOR2}; border-style: none; }

/* Import the fancy styles for IE only (NS4.x doesn't use the @import function) */
@import url("templates/subSilver/formIE.css");
-->
</style>
<!-- BEGIN switch_enable_pm_popup -->
<script language="Javascript" type="text/javascript">
<!--
if ( {PRIVATE_MESSAGE_NEW_FLAG} )
{
window.open('{U_PRIVATEMSGS_POPUP}', '_phpbbprivmsg', 'HEIGHT=225,resizable=yes,WIDTH=400');;
}
//-->
</script>
<!-- END switch_enable_pm_popup -->
</head>
<body bgcolor="{T_BODY_BGCOLOR}" text="{T_BODY_TEXT}" link="{T_BODY_LINK}" vlink="{T_BODY_VLINK}" />

<a name="top"></a>

<table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" border="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td class="bodyline"><table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0">
<tr>
<td><a href="{U_INDEX}"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif" border="0" alt="{L_INDEX}" vspace="1" /></a></td>
<td align="center" width="100%" valign="middle"><span class="maintitle">{SITENAME}</span><br /><span class="gen">{SITE_DESCRIPTION}<br />&nbsp; </span>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" border="0">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="mainmenu">&nbsp;<a href="{U_FAQ}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_faq.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_FAQ}" hspace="3" />{L_FAQ}</a></span><span class="mainmenu">&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_SEARCH}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_search.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_SEARCH}" hspace="3" />{L_SEARCH}</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_MEMBERLIST}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_members.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_MEMBERLIST}" hspace="3" />{L_MEMBERLIST}</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_GROUP_CP}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_groups.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_USERGROUPS}" hspace="3" />{L_USERGROUPS}</a>&nbsp;
<!-- BEGIN switch_user_logged_out -->
&nbsp;<a href="{U_REGISTER}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_register.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_REGISTER}" hspace="3" />{L_REGISTER}</a></span>&nbsp;
<!-- END switch_user_logged_out -->
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="25" align="center" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="mainmenu">&nbsp;<a href="{U_PROFILE}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_profile.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_PROFILE}" hspace="3" />{L_PROFILE}</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_PRIVATEMSGS}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_message.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{PRIVATE_MESSAGE_INFO}" hspace="3" />{PRIVATE_MESSAGE_INFO}</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_LOGIN_LOGOUT}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_login.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_LOGIN_LOGOUT}" hspace="3" />{L_LOGIN_LOGOUT}</a>&nbsp;</span></td>
</tr>
</table></td>
</tr>
</table>

<br />

Where the heck should I insert the hyperlink code?

How can I add an image to the same code?
What could be a good (free) html program? Where to get one?
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 1:37 pm

I recommend HTML-Kit. You can find that here. It's very good for a free HTML editor.

The file you need to open is overall_header.tpl. This is the part you are looking for:

Code:
<table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" border="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td class="bodyline"><table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0">
<tr>
<td><a href="{U_INDEX}"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif" border="0" alt="{L_INDEX}" vspace="1" /></a></td>
<td align="center" width="100%" valign="middle"><span class="maintitle">{SITENAME}</span><br /><span class="gen">{SITE_DESCRIPTION}<br />&nbsp; </span>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" border="0">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="mainmenu">&nbsp;<a href="{U_FAQ}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_faq.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_FAQ}" hspace="3" />{L_FAQ}</a></span><span class="mainmenu">&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_SEARCH}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_search.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_SEARCH}" hspace="3" />{L_SEARCH}</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_MEMBERLIST}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_members.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_MEMBERLIST}" hspace="3" />{L_MEMBERLIST}</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_GROUP_CP}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_groups.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_USERGROUPS}" hspace="3" />{L_USERGROUPS}</a>&nbsp;
<!-- BEGIN switch_user_logged_out -->
&nbsp;<a href="{U_REGISTER}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_register.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_REGISTER}" hspace="3" />{L_REGISTER}</a></span>&nbsp;
<!-- END switch_user_logged_out -->
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="25" align="center" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="mainmenu">&nbsp;<a href="{U_PROFILE}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_profile.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_PROFILE}" hspace="3" />{L_PROFILE}</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_PRIVATEMSGS}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_message.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{PRIVATE_MESSAGE_INFO}" hspace="3" />{PRIVATE_MESSAGE_INFO}</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="{U_LOGIN_LOGOUT}" class="mainmenu"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_login.gif" width="12" height="13" border="0" alt="{L_LOGIN_LOGOUT}" hspace="3" />{L_LOGIN_LOGOUT}</a>&nbsp;</span></td>
</tr>
</table></td>
</tr>
</table>


Right at the bottom.

Code:
<td><a href="{U_INDEX}"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif" border="0" alt="{L_INDEX}" vspace="1" /></a></td>


This is the header logo. Make the following changes to add links below the logo.

Code:
<td><a href="{U_INDEX}"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif" border="0" alt="{L_INDEX}" vspace="1" /></a><br>
<A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://www.yoursite.com">Link Description</A></td>


Add as many links as desired. You can seperate them however you like eg Link 1 - Link 2 - Link 3 or Link 1 :: Link 2 :: Link 3, or whatever you feel is appropriate.
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:43 pm

A clarification of an earlier answer - the NLSC forum's database has actually reached 52.48 MB, and the avatar directory is 1.8 MB in size.
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 6:16 pm

thanks very much (y)
it's good to get help to these kind of problems this quickly....
I guess I wont be asking more questions about the link thing :wink: but I still haven't found a chat-mod.
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 6:25 pm

The nbalive.org forum had/has a chatroom, perhaps Ben can point you in the right direction. :)
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 9:38 pm

Hey Andrew, i reckon you should add a chatroom to the NLSC forum. (Y):) It would be fun talking to all the NLSC members in one room...what ya think?
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 9:43 pm

It's an idea that's always thrown around, one that I'm not really for. The forum is fairly active most of the day, but the frequent users are spread out across the day, meaning the chatroom wouldn't be very active. There would only be a couple of users in the room most of the time, meaning you might as well just use MSN/ICQ/AIM/Yahoo! Messenger while browsing the forum. So I'll have to say no at this point.
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:57 pm

I think the chat mod could be good for NLSC....
I don't really think that my forum benefits that much from it, I'm just experimentig and havin' fun... :wink:

Anyway, if anyone finds a chat mod, please inform me immediately, ASAP.
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:17 pm

whoohaaaa!
Take a looka this
HTML-editing worked!!!
The only thing is that the links are on the top of the logo but ain't bothering me...
(y)
Thanks ya'll!
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:24 pm

If you want the links to appear below the logo, change this:

Code:
<td><a href="index.php?sid=20234aae338ed87b8437bdff9e68f646"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif" border="0" alt="Finnboy's NBA Live series site Forum Index" vspace="1" /></a></td>
            <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://koti.mbnet.fi/finnboy">Finnboy's Site</A></td> - <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://members.lycos.co.uk/finnboy/forums/index.php">Forum Index</A></td> - <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://koti.mbnet.fi/finnboy/links.htm">Other NBA Live Sites</A></td>


To this:

Code:
<td><a href="index.php?sid=20234aae338ed87b8437bdff9e68f646"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif" border="0" alt="Finnboy's NBA Live series site Forum Index" vspace="1" /></a>
            <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://koti.mbnet.fi/finnboy">Finnboy's Site</A> - <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://members.lycos.co.uk/finnboy/forums/index.php">Forum Index</A> - <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://koti.mbnet.fi/finnboy/links.htm">Other NBA Live Sites</A></td>
 
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:52 pm

Well, thanks, but I'll leave them on the top, it's not bugging me, and besides, my forum should be different of some elses in some ways :wink:
 
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Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:17 am

I can appreciate that. :) But the reason that it appears on top is due to an error in the code, so if you wanted to tidy that up, change:

Code:
<td><a href="index.php?sid=20234aae338ed87b8437bdff9e68f646"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif" border="0" alt="Finnboy's NBA Live series site Forum Index" vspace="1" /></a></td>
            <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://koti.mbnet.fi/finnboy">Finnboy's Site</A></td> - <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://members.lycos.co.uk/finnboy/forums/index.php">Forum Index</A></td> - <A class="mainmenu" HREF="http://koti.mbnet.fi/finnboy/links.htm">Other NBA Live Sites</A></td>


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Re: whopsie

Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:41 am

Finnboy wrote:What could be a good (free) html program? Where to get one?

The best is Notepad, it comes with Windows...

Though sometimes you run into big files (like other phpbb files) that notepad dislikes...thus you have to use:
http://www.mypeecee.org/rogsoft/notepad.html
Notepad+

Anything else is crap and should never ever be used...notepad(+) and only notepad(+) should be used for html/php...anything else is like murdering babies...
Hey Andrew, i reckon you should add a chatroom to the NLSC forum. It would be fun talking to all the NLSC members in one room...what ya think?

The nbalive.org forum had/has a chatroom, perhaps Ben can point you in the right direction.

I think the chat mod could be good for NLSC

Ick, ick, ick...that phpBB chat mod is evil...if you run it javascript it sucks because anything but simple javascript sucks...and if you run it sql, it will destroy any free web hosting service and slow your forum down to a grinding halt...
 
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Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:17 pm

TextPad is also nice for editing html/php/whatever. I've never used Notepad+ but I'm guessing they're comparable.
 
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 6:24 pm

Andrew, i just downloaded HTML-kit to use while i don't have frontpage. And i have no idea how to edit HTML and what it does and i dont intend on learning. Can't you just use HTML-kit like frontpage? Or is there a plugin i can download?
 
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:51 am

I believe HTML-Kit has some wizards, but for the most part you edit the HTML directly, as you would with Notepad.
 
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:02 pm

Yeah, i found a tool in it called the prototype pad. :) you can edit text with that, But it's very limited. Man, HTML-kit is hard for beginners like me.

Do you know of any specific wizards, Andrew?
 
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:33 pm

I don't know much about the wizards in HTML-Kit, I've never used them.
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